24 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said:

500+ FPS in the MSFS2024 menu.

I'll have to take the fps counter's word for it, as my Samsung TV monitor does only 60 Hz. 😄

2 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said:

I'm waiting for a more thoughtful and elaborate review by tech *******.

here you go:

 

3 hours ago, mistolip said:

I remember buying the very first 3dfx Voodoo card that arrived in the Netherlands on some computer expo. Must have been around 1996. IIRC it cost more than the entire PC I put it in...! So not much has changed imho. 😉 

I remember an F16 game that got a 3dfx patch and blew me away, The only time in 35 years of pc usage that a patch really did something. If I remember correctly I had 2 3dfx cards in my pc.

1 hour ago, Pastaiolo said:

To get a bit more into the technical side of things

a question none of the usual reviewer suspects has asked: what exactly does $ 2.000 RTX 5000 MultiFrameGeneration do for We, the VR people? So we asked Phem: how does MFG increase fps, reduce stutters and improve frame times in VR? 

in two words:😀

 

Edited January 8, 20251 yr by turbomax

My 4yr old 2080ti is running quite well in 2024. I only see the full 12G's being used when I fly around Los Angeles or Manhattan. I'm squeezing every bit of power from it using high fidelity AC @ 200 LOD. I shopped the 4080 super on Amazon and saw the asking price. And ended up just adding 32GBs of ram which made the biggest difference and performance on my system. I'm content with the performance of 2024 at this point and just can't justify spending that amount of money on a video card, just to squeeze a little more performance than what I already have. Even though I can afford to purchase a new one,

Edited January 8, 20251 yr by Bigmack

4 hours ago, Cpt_Piett said:

Possibly the more affordable option?

More to do with the lyric. ("that don't impress me much")

How to get a free 5090: Invest in Nvidia stock, and then after it shoots up, sell. Now you have enough to buy one.

I wonder what existing 1000W PSU will be able can handle RTX5090. I understand 5090 requires more power connection

For anyone who says the current generation of GPUs are adequate, try 4k on triple monitors.

My current system with a 3090 will do it most of the time at 30 psi plus, dipping down into mid 20s in complex scenery, but while it's adequate it's less than I like and I have to use lower quality than I'd like.

I note the comments that at that speed FG won't help.  But my question about the 4090 and 5090 is how fast are they without FG, ie how much faster are they at doing standard rendering?

Because the other problem is that currently FG or third party equivalents only work on the central monitor - the frame rate on the other two is actually slow, which breaks immersion.  So I don't use it.

Big question for me is can the new capabilities of the 5000 series apply to multiple screen

PS:  another downvote for the RAM on the non-5090s.  4k, high quality, three monitors makes the 24GB on my 3090 pretty tight as is.  

I would disagree with the comments about FG not helping when your non-FG FPS are in the 20s.  I find it helps and continues to look good in the 20s for sure, even in high teens.  When 20 gives you a smooth 40, it's all good to my eye.

7 minutes ago, Malcolm Street said:

Big question for me is can the new capabilities of the 5000 series apply to multiple screen

how about a monitor splitter or multi display adapter, like Matrox had one. the GPU handles these as a single large display. should work with frame generation.

https://video.matrox.com/en/products/gxm/triplehead2go-series/dp-edition

Nvidia Surround turns 2 or 3 monitors into 1 monitor, and then FG works fine on all them at the same time, (Because windows consider them all on big monitor). I used to fly every day that way. But might Pimax VR headset won't turn on if I have two 32" monitors running. So I don't use surround any more.

8 hours ago, turbomax said:

and we were not even remotely thinking of 60" 4K displays, VR headsets @ 8 K resolution @ 90-120 fps, with 24 GB video memory (3 x more than the average PC had as main memory).

True, but when that first 3dfx Voodoo card came out, it was freaking revolutionary. The difference between 3d games and non-3d games was night and day. And when I built a computer with it, the Voodoo card was not by any stretch the most expensive thing in the box. That honor went to the CPU (that bizarre form factor PII, if you remember that one)

And it was hooked to twin 1600x1200 21" NECs, which at the time were a monitor-gods and much higher res than most normal displays. And they were also more expensive than the card (and stupid-heavy). Yes, it was a tinker toy compared to what we have today, but...

It's like cars. A 1970s Lamborghini gets outrun by a modern minivan, but no one is saying that minivans should cost as much as a Lamborghini as a result.

 

Edited January 9, 20251 yr by eslader

3 hours ago, Fielder said:

Nvidia Surround turns 2 or 3 monitors into 1 monitor, and then FG works fine on all them at the same time, 

I can't handle the distortion that Surround produces on the side monitors

3 hours ago, turbomax said:

how about a monitor splitter or multi display adapter, like Matrox had one. the GPU handles these as a single large display. should work with frame generation.

https://video.matrox.com/en/products/gxm/triplehead2go-series/dp-edition

"the GPU handles these as a single large display".  This sounds like NVIDIA Surround, which produces major distortion on the side displays.