3 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

For what it’s worth I’ve posted the problem in the Microsoft Windows forum. Hopefully someone will respond with a permanent solution.

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_11-wintop_update/kb5054979-and-kb5055523-causing-panning-problems/902e359d-c2bc-44aa-a75f-fe1ada0356d0

Thanks, looking forward to it. In the meantime I disabled Chaseplane, changed the cameras.cfg setting back to default and configured all controlls in P3D to the same as i used with Chaseplane. In Cameras.cfg chaseplane did disable the default vc and added its own vc configs. These have to be removed and the default re-enabled. Chaseplane when started, instantly add it's configuration to cameras.cfg. I also found, changing the PitchPanRate and HeadingPanRate to a bit higher values makes it feel almost as good as chaseplane before the Windows update. I also installed these Windows updates again, since they seem to be needed. I had problems with sleep state of my rig and hope, this is solved with the last updates.

@Ray Proudfoot please alert us if MS answers you as that’s not a web site I visit routinely like AVSIM.

No replies from Microsoft overnight but 11 people have indicated they need an answer. Hopefully that makes the case more compelling.

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/kb5054979-and-kb5055523-causing-panning-problems/902e359d-c2bc-44aa-a75f-fe1ada0356d0

Adam Pestridge has replied confirming a very similar problem but with Windows 10.

12 people now have the same problem. I wonder if ChasePlane for MSFS is affected?

Yes I do confirm as well that I have the same issue with Chaseplane and P3D v5.4 latest release. Interesting how a Windows update can break such an application 🤯

@Keven Menard, I know you’re unable to support the original ChasePlane for FSX / P3D but having raised the issue with Microsoft here it would probably help them if they knew which part of ChasePlane was affected by their security updates.

Any info you can provide would be gratefully accepted. As you can see more than 15 people have the same problem.

21 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

12 people now have the same problem. I wonder if ChasePlane for MSFS is affected?

When I was exchanging with Ed from //42 i suggested the problem could also affect the P3Dv6 and MSFS versions (still supported) of Chaseplane but he ignored it completely.

1 hour ago, blaunarwal said:

When I was exchanging with Ed from //42 i suggested the problem could also affect the P3Dv6 and MSFS versions (still supported) of Chaseplane but he ignored it completely.

Keven visited AvSim 40 mins ago so he would have been notified of my tag.

I hope it does affect MSFS as we then have a greater chance of a fix.

3 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

Keven visited AvSim 40 mins ago so he would have been notified of my tag.

I hope it does affect MSFS as we then have a greater chance of a fix.

There is even a supported version for P3D6. I wonder, if this worked with P3D5. They could have made an improved version covering both, v5 and v6 and sell it that way. It calls itself "pro" but maybe that doesn't really mean to be superior over previous version.

Edited April 30, 20251 yr by blaunarwal

5 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

Keven visited AvSim 40 mins ago so he would have been notified of my tag.

I hope it does affect MSFS as we then have a greater chance of a fix.

I think your best bet is the reach them over Discord! You might have a good chance to get a reply there as they are usually "Online" for most of the day. 

3 minutes ago, CAPTZJO said:

I think your best bet is the reach them over Discord! You might have a good chance to get a reply there as they are usually "Online" for most of the day. 

I don’t do Discord. @Keven Menardis a regular visitor to AvSim so I would hope he will provide us with any info that will help Microsoft.

Of course if anyone of you has a Discord account be my guest! 😁

1 hour ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

I don’t do Discord. @Keven Menardis a regular visitor to AvSim so I would hope he will provide us with any info that will help Microsoft.

Of course if anyone of you has a Discord account be my guest! 😁

What happens if someone uninstalls these mentioned updates? Will chaseplane behavior go back to Normal? Or will that mess up with Windows Security and applications operations? 

1 hour ago, CAPTZJO said:

What happens if someone uninstalls these mentioned updates? Will chaseplane behavior go back to Normal? Or will that mess up with Windows Security and applications operations? 

Yes to the first question. If the security update causing the problem is reinstalled the problem returns. It’s all down to whether Windows will continue to permit the two updates to be uninstalled.

What we’re doing is a workaround, not a permanent solution. That requires Microsoft to intervene. So far, there’s no reply from them.

6 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

Yes to the first question. If the security update causing the problem is reinstalled the problem returns. It’s all down to whether Windows will continue to permit the two updates to be uninstalled.

What we’re doing is a workaround, not a permanent solution. That requires Microsoft to intervene. So far, there’s no reply from them.

i have found it difficult to uninstall these updates. 

7 hours ago, CAPTZJO said:

i have found it difficult to uninstall these updates. 

Strange, as it is an official Windows procedure and not some hack.