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Chaseplane unusable since a few days

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Hello guys! 

I suffer the same issue with panning when using chaseplane. Lags for some seconds, then works fine, then starts again to lag, then fine agan, and so on. 

Very annoying.

Unfortunately the mentioned updates (KB5054979, KB5055523, KB5050577 and KB5053656) which have to be uninstalled dont appear for me in the "Uninstall Updates" list anymore.

Maybe anyone figured out a workaround that problem in the meantime? Or maybe a complete solution?

I also tried a new install of Chaseplane, tried the always on top option, etc. Unfortunately all without any success. Seems until that is fixed I have to fly MSFS 😕

Thank you very much and kinds regards,
Christoph

Edited by Christoph123

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  • Ray Proudfoot
    Ray Proudfoot

    For what it’s worth I’ve posted the problem in the Microsoft Windows forum. Hopefully someone will respond with a permanent solution. https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_11-

  • Ray Proudfoot
    Ray Proudfoot

    I turned Updates back on this morning and allowed W11 Pro to install all its updates which included the problematic ones. I'm pleased to report that having disabled that option panning is restore

  • vandruningen
    vandruningen

    i noticed that if i select "preferences / enable advanced features (restart)" i get problems with switching camera views. very slow and not very reliable. turn that off (start again)  and it works fin

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The problem has returned for me, even after fixing it a few weeks ago by uninstalling the latest windows updates. I don’t show any new windows updates have been installed so not sure what is causing the issue now…

edit: windows did update my pc on May 4th and I went back and uninstalled the updates again to fix the issue.  

Edited by okupton

Orman

An interesting development.

Having deleted those updates and got ChasePlane working., I decided today to be brave.

I unblocked Updates and told it to update everything that it wanted.

To my utter surprise, not only did it load Windows faster but P3D and ChasePlane worked perfectly: no zoom problems and no Hat problems.

I have not yet tested with a flight but on the ground all was well.

My Windows current version shows as  24H2 (26100.3915)

Perhaps one of you would like to be brave and see if it works for you.

If I get problems inflight tomorrow, I will post here.

Intel i7 6700K @4.3. 32gb Gskill 3200 RAM. Z170x Gigabyte m/b. 28" LG HD monitor. Win 10 Home. 500g Samsung 960 as Windows home. 1 Gb Mushkin SSD for P3D. GTX 1080 8gb.

Maybe I am on the odd one out here, but I have the latest 24H2 Windows 11 updates installed (apart from the latest April Cumulative Preview) and last weekend performed a 3 hr flight in the MD-11F and did not notice any stuttering or VC display issues when using CP.

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System specs: MFG Crosswind pedals| ACE B747 yoke |Honeycomb Bravo throttle
Now built: P3Dv5.3HF2: Intel i5-12600K @4.8Ghz | MSI Z690-A PRO | Asus Dual RTX 4070 Super OC 12Gb| 32Gb Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3200Mhz |Samsung 980Evo Pro PCIe 500Gb | WD Black SN850 PCIe 2Tb | WD SA510 4Tb |beQuiet 802 Tower Case|Corsair RM850 PSU | Acer Predator X34P 3440x1440p

Mark Aldridge
MSFS2024 SU5 & P3D v5.3 HF2

55 minutes ago, 787flyer said:

Maybe I am on the odd one out here, but I have the latest 24H2 Windows 11 updates installed (apart from the latest April Cumulative Preview) and last weekend performed a 3 hr flight in the MD-11F and did not notice any stuttering or VC display issues when using CP.

Lol, you must live right. Keep it up.

Vic green

2 hour flight. All working as before. Problems seem to have departed.

Intel i7 6700K @4.3. 32gb Gskill 3200 RAM. Z170x Gigabyte m/b. 28" LG HD monitor. Win 10 Home. 500g Samsung 960 as Windows home. 1 Gb Mushkin SSD for P3D. GTX 1080 8gb.

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29 minutes ago, IanHarrison said:

2 hour flight. All working as before. Problems seem to have departed.

Very encouraging. Can you open Windows Updates and note the KB numbers of all in the last month please Ian. It suggests Microsoft have identified and fixed the error that unintentionally caused this bug.

There’s been no official response on my post on the Windows forum.

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

Cheadle Hulme Weather website.

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20 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

Very encouraging. Can you open Windows Updates and note the KB numbers of all in the last month please Ian. It suggests Microsoft have identified and fixed the error that unintentionally caused this bug.

There’s been no official response on my post on the Windows forum.

There have no updates been released on Windows 11 in the meantime apart from AV definitions. Chaseplane still does not work on my system updated to the latest build 26100.3915.

OS=WIN11 Home, Sim=P3D5 5.3 (P3D4 and FSX for install reasons)
Addons=ORBX, ASCA, AS, TOGA and tons of sceneries, aircraft

MB=Gigabyte AORUS Z790 Elite AX, CPU=i13900K, Cooling=Be quiet! Pure Loop II FX
GPU=KFA2 RTX3090 24 GB, RAM=64 GB DDR5-5600, HOTAS=Logitech G Saitek X52 Pro

Visit my website for fixes and addons: https://sites.google.com/view/dans-p3d-mods

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14 minutes ago, blaunarwal said:

There have no updates been released on Windows 11 in the meantime apart from AV definitions. Chaseplane still does not work on my system updated to the latest build 26100.3915.

Curiouser and curiouser.

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

Cheadle Hulme Weather website.

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Hi,

Not sure if this helps, but here's my list of Win 11 updates and CP config.

What's interesting is I have a couple of those previously mentioned KBs installed, but not some of the others.

Again, I am pretty much up to date with Win 11 updates apart from the April Cumulative Preview at this time.

 

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PS C:\WINDOWS\system32> wmic qfe list

Caption                                                                 CSName                     Description                      FixComments      HotFixID                    InstallDate      InstalledBy                           InstalledOn  Name  ServicePackInEffect  Status
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=5054979  DESKTOP-FLIGHTS  Update                                                           KB5054979                                      NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM  4/27/2025
https://support.microsoft.com/help/5055523   DESKTOP-FLIGHTS  Security Update                                            KB5055523                                      NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM  4/27/2025
                                                                              DESKTOP-FLIGHTS  Security Update                                            KB5052085                                      NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM  2/28/2025
                                                                              DESKTOP-FLIGHTS  Security Update                                            KB5058538                                      NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM  4/27/2025

 

CP log:

Time:                     09-May-25 8:49:15 AM GMT
Version:                  1.2.61
PLV:                      1.2.61
OS:                       Microsoft Windows 11 Pro
.NET:                     4.8 or later
Running Sim:               
Current aircraft:         No aircraft
Current aircraft cfg:     No aircraft CFG

----------------------------------------------------
--------------- Installed Simulators ---------------
----------------------------------------------------
P3Dv5 "D:\Program Files\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v5\"

-------------------------------------------
--------------- Preferences ---------------
-------------------------------------------
experimental_version = False
ui_refresh_ms = 500
ui_anim_duration = 0.4
ui_static_show_all = False
view_sel_anim_in_ms = 0.2
view_sel_anim_out_ms = 0.1
view_sel_delay = 300
minimize_taskbar = True
x_to_minimize = False
confirm_close = True
turb_pause_ms = 1
always_on_top = False
debug_show = False
vas_show = True
vas_warning = True
vas_remaining = True
show_replay = False
vas_warning_treshold = 400
turb_wind_amplitude = 1
startup_glob_enable = True
app_auto_launch = True
mouse_middle_view_switcher = True
mouse_disable_on_gauges = True
mouse_unhooked = False
mouse_right_cam_look = False
mouse_right_cam_zoom = False
mouse_middle_cam_look = False
mouse_middle_cam_zoom = False
mouse_middle_pan_hide = False
pause_turbs_on_mousemove = False
pause_turbs_on_mousescroll = False
pause_turbs_in_slew = True
doors_enabled = False
mode_cinematic_ctrl_speed = 1
mode_cinematic_ctrl_inertia = 3
mode_cinematic_duration = 30
mode_cinematic_distance = 10
mode_cinematic_delay = 10
mode_cinematic_fi = 1500
mode_cinematic_fo = 2000
mode_cinematic_vas_protection = True
mode_cinematic_mute = False
mode_cinematic_zoom = 0.5
boostFactor = 5
hdr_override = False
hdr_compensate = True
hdr_1_brightness = 1
hdr_1_bloom = 1
hdr_1_saturation = 1
hdr_2_brightness = 1
hdr_2_bloom = 1
hdr_2_saturation = 1
hdr_3_brightness = 1
hdr_3_bloom = 1
hdr_3_saturation = 1
hdr_cine_brightness = 1
hdr_cine_bloom = 1
hdr_cine_saturation = 1
binoculars_factor = 3
joystick_default_dead_zone = 100
user_statistics = True
auto_cpu_afinity = False
cpu_afinity = 1111
show_whats_new = True
enable_advanced = True
enable_trackir = True
trackir_reset = True
translucent_window = True
invert_x_trackAircraft = False
invert_y_trackAircraft = False
user_defaults =
aircraft_substitute =
recorder_rec_max_s = 1200
recorder_loop = False
recorder_playback_vis = Altitude
recorder_playback_scale = 40
recorder_playback_start_s = 60
static_move_fast_alt = True
static_walkaround = True
inject_to_mem = True
drop_object_1 = Flour_bomb
drop_object_2 = Propane_Tank_sm
drop_object_3 = Discovery Spaceshuttle
control_assignments_preferences = {}
control_assignments_presets = +
control_assignments_named = +
data_output_enabled = False
data_output_port = 59888
afhs = 0
fishgame_enabled = True

----------------------------------------------------------
--------------- Cameras.cfg file for P3Dv5 ---------------
----------------------------------------------------------
CFG created on 30-Apr-23 8:42:29 AM UTC
CFG modified on 01-May-23 3:17:01 PM UTC

[CameraDefinition.028]
Title=On-Board(ChasePlane)
HotKeySelect=1

[CameraDefinition.029]
Title=Outside(ChasePlane)
HotKeySelect=6

[CameraDefinition.030]
Title=Static(ChasePlane)
HotKeySelect=5

[CameraDefinition.031]
Title=Gimbal(ChasePlane)
HotKeySelect=8

[CameraDefinition.001]
Title=Cockpit
HotKeySelect=2

//[CameraDefinition.002]
//Title=VirtualCockpit
//HotKeySelect=1

[CameraDefinition.003]
Title=Spot

[CameraDefinition.004]
Title=LockedSpot
HotKeySelect=3

[CameraDefinition.005]
Title=FlyBy

[CameraDefinition.006]
Title=WeatherRadarTop-Down
HotKeySelect=4

[CameraDefinition.007]
Title=NearestTower
NoSortTitle=True

[CameraDefinition.008]
Title=FacilitiesTower

[CameraDefinition.009]
Title=FacilitiesRunway

[CameraDefinition.010]
Title=AIPlanes

[CameraDefinition.011]
Title=MultiplayerPlanes

[CameraDefinition.012]
Title=IR(WhiteHot)

[CameraDefinition.013]
Title=IR(BlackHot)

[CameraDefinition.014]
Title=NVG(WhiteHot)

[CameraDefinition.015]
Title=NVG(BlackHot)

[CameraDefinition.016]
Title=Weapons

[CameraDefinition.017]
Title=Static

[CameraDefinition.018]
Title=RadarCamera

[CameraDefinition.019]
Title=DISEntities

[CameraDefinition.020]
Title=HLAObjects

[CameraDefinition.021]
Title=VirtualCockpitOnly

[CameraDefinition.022]
Title=CigiView

[CameraDefinition.023]
Title=CigiViewExternal

[CameraDefinition.024]
Title=ScenarioObjects

[CameraDefinition.025]
Title=Top-Down
HotKeySelect=4

[CameraDefinition.026]
Title=TerrainAwareness

[CameraDefinition.027]
Title=WeatherRadar

---------------------------------------------
--------------- END OF REPORT ---------------
---------------------------------------------

----------------------------------------------
--------------- CONSOLE OUTPUT ---------------
----------------------------------------------
App Started
v1.2.61
Couldn't get remote UriHandler object.
Immersive Updater Booting: isready silent "chaseplane|null|C:\Program Files\Parallel 42\ChasePlane"  / False, True, True, True
Immersive Updater Started
Waiting for Updater to shutdown...
Immersive Updater returned code 0
Immersive Updater Booting: download silent "chaseplane|rc|C:\Program Files\Parallel 42\ChasePlane" / False, False, False, False
Immersive Updater Started
Waiting for Updater to shutdown...
P3Dv5 is installed in D:\Program Files\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v5\
Will load Diag Runtime Assembly
Will load Google Analytics Assembly
Will load Newtonsoft Assembly
Will load Mouse Hook Assembly
Will load SlimDX Assembly
Will load IO Compression Assembly
Immersive Updater returned code 0
Will load SimConnect Assembly
Assemblies loaded
Launching Splash Window
Launching Main Window
Loading Splash Animation
Start Splash Animation
Loading Janet
Start Timer cam_timing
Start Timer main_stopwatch
Starting Bridge
Splash Fade In
Bridge Started
Starting the Bridge server
--> Connecting to Named Pipe
<-- Connected to Named Pipe
Bridge server started
Loaded Janet
Getting last launch
Getting Running Simulator
Getting Preferences from Local
GetRecording is null
Getting User Presets
Getting User Presets from Local
Removing Orphans
Loading Control Assignments (For Preferences)
Done Loading Control Assignments (For Preferences)
Loading Control Assignments (For Presets)
Done Loading Control Assignments (For Presets)
Done Loading Control Assignments (For Named)
Setting Window Position
Window Position Set to 35, 935
Registring to Process Notifications
Registring to USB Notifications
Registring to Directory Notifications
Sleep Mode True
Populating Control Assignments
Initializing Keyboard
Keyboard Initialized
Starting Timer
Started Timer
USB Change
Checking Config
Checking Cameras.cfg file for sim: P3Dv5 in C:\Users\Mark\AppData\Roaming\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v5\
Populating Control Assignments
Checking TrackIR directory
No registry for TrackIR
Done Initializing
Getting Running Simulator
Getting Running Simulator
Proc
1-2-61 - Usage / -Last Launch- / 3
Analytics sent.
USB Devices Count Mismatch
Generating Joystick list
Adding: c199bc60-f1a1-11ed-8002-444553540000 Name: MFG Crosswind V2
Trying to create Thread for: c199bc60-f1a1-11ed-8002-444553540000 Name: MFG Crosswind V2
Trying to start Thread for: c199bc60-f1a1-11ed-8002-444553540000 Name: MFG Crosswind V2
Adding: 66a0c1f0-ecc4-11ed-8005-444553540000 Name: X52 Professional H.O.T.A.S.
Trying to create Thread for: 66a0c1f0-ecc4-11ed-8005-444553540000 Name: X52 Professional H.O.T.A.S.
Trying to start Thread for: 66a0c1f0-ecc4-11ed-8005-444553540000 Name: X52 Professional H.O.T.A.S.
Splash Fade Out
Populating Control Assignments
Getting Running Simulator
Getting/Scanning aircraft for P3Dv5
Getting Running Simulator
Aircraft scan completed
Getting Running Simulator
Button clicked btn_nav_support_1
Getting Running Simulator
Getting Running Simulator
Button clicked btn_nav_support_0
Getting Running Simulator
Getting Running Simulator
Getting Running Simulator
Button clicked btn_nav_preferences
tutorial_focusArea
Getting Running Simulator
Getting Running Simulator
Getting Running Simulator
Getting Running Simulator
Getting Running Simulator
Getting Running Simulator
Getting Running Simulator
Button clicked btn_report


-----------------------------------------------------
--------------- BRIDGE CONSOLE OUTPUT ---------------
-----------------------------------------------------
Init
Connecting to the ChasePlane
Connected to the ChasePlane
Connected: 1

 

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System specs: MFG Crosswind pedals| ACE B747 yoke |Honeycomb Bravo throttle
Now built: P3Dv5.3HF2: Intel i5-12600K @4.8Ghz | MSI Z690-A PRO | Asus Dual RTX 4070 Super OC 12Gb| 32Gb Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3200Mhz |Samsung 980Evo Pro PCIe 500Gb | WD Black SN850 PCIe 2Tb | WD SA510 4Tb |beQuiet 802 Tower Case|Corsair RM850 PSU | Acer Predator X34P 3440x1440p

Mark Aldridge
MSFS2024 SU5 & P3D v5.3 HF2

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@787flyer, 979 and 523 are the two I uninstalled. The difference between our systems appears to be PowerShell. Perhaps those affected might try that update and report back.

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

Cheadle Hulme Weather website.

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1 hour ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

@787flyer, 979 and 523 are the two I uninstalled. The difference between our systems appears to be PowerShell. Perhaps those affected might try that update and report back.

Hi Ray, re Powershell I only used that as a convenient way to list out the KBs installed.

I had read that sometimes from the Windows Update history it doesn't list out all Win updates, so the recommendation was to use Powershell instead to list out the installed updates.

Spoiler

System specs: MFG Crosswind pedals| ACE B747 yoke |Honeycomb Bravo throttle
Now built: P3Dv5.3HF2: Intel i5-12600K @4.8Ghz | MSI Z690-A PRO | Asus Dual RTX 4070 Super OC 12Gb| 32Gb Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3200Mhz |Samsung 980Evo Pro PCIe 500Gb | WD Black SN850 PCIe 2Tb | WD SA510 4Tb |beQuiet 802 Tower Case|Corsair RM850 PSU | Acer Predator X34P 3440x1440p

Mark Aldridge
MSFS2024 SU5 & P3D v5.3 HF2

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@787flyer I compared the cp log from you and me and tried to adapt my settings but can't find any of the mouse_middle* settings. But most difference I see that you did not set any control assignments preferences in cp. The problem I talk about is occuring when I pan with the coolie-hat.

So how are you panning around?

Edited by blaunarwal

OS=WIN11 Home, Sim=P3D5 5.3 (P3D4 and FSX for install reasons)
Addons=ORBX, ASCA, AS, TOGA and tons of sceneries, aircraft

MB=Gigabyte AORUS Z790 Elite AX, CPU=i13900K, Cooling=Be quiet! Pure Loop II FX
GPU=KFA2 RTX3090 24 GB, RAM=64 GB DDR5-5600, HOTAS=Logitech G Saitek X52 Pro

Visit my website for fixes and addons: https://sites.google.com/view/dans-p3d-mods

5 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

Curiouser and curiouser.

Even odder: I removed those KBs and all worked. If I check now, it has now installed 5627 and 6579. BUT it is still listing 4979 and 5523 as installed. Maybe it is fooling itself?

Intel i7 6700K @4.3. 32gb Gskill 3200 RAM. Z170x Gigabyte m/b. 28" LG HD monitor. Win 10 Home. 500g Samsung 960 as Windows home. 1 Gb Mushkin SSD for P3D. GTX 1080 8gb.

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1 hour ago, IanHarrison said:

Even odder: I removed those KBs and all worked. If I check now, it has now installed 5627 and 6579. BUT it is still listing 4979 and 5523 as installed. Maybe it is fooling itself?

We must have different configurations. I’m on Pro. Are you? I never saw the two you listed.

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

Cheadle Hulme Weather website.

chlive.php

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