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2024 - Better Than You Think

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14 hours ago, Sky_Pilot071 said:

Note no question just that 2024 is better than you think.

My best feature is that my 5900x cruises along at 30% unlike 10% in my previous sim.

All the while my 3060ti is doing the job 70% VRAM.

dd

This is reads like something a 6 year old would write.

If you actually are that age I apologise

 

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  • buspelle
    buspelle

    "Better than I think"? 🤔In what way "better" than msfs 2020???... I was HOPING for that when I tried ms2024 via GamePass a few days ago... And what a total and utterly dissapointment it was!!! 

  • bobcat999
    bobcat999

    Well this is a useless thread.  Is this what the 2024 evangelists have to post once in a while to try to convince themselves, because most users won't be fooled.  It needs maybe another year, and th

  • All those things that you listed are not an issue especially floating AI, stuttering or settings getting lost. I just completed a flight in PMDG 772 from RJAA to VHHH and did not experience any of tho

9 minutes ago, Bigmack said:

I never used the sim real time traffic AI, so you may be correct.

Just for a good giggle, enable it and fly out of JFK during peak hours. It should be entertaining. 🫣

2 minutes ago, Rodster said:

Just for a good giggle, enable it and fly out of JFK during peak hours. It should be entertaining. 🫣

No thanks Microsoft AI engine has been terrible since FS9, that's why I never used it. Install AIG and see what a difference it makes visually and immersivity.

Bill McIntyre

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2 hours ago, Bigmack said:

No thanks Microsoft AI engine has been terrible since FS9, that's why I never used it. Install AIG and see what a difference it makes visually and immersivity.

So you are using AIG's traffic controller with MSFS 2024 ?

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9 minutes ago, Maxis said:

So you are using AIG's traffic controller with MSFS 2024 ?

That is correct. Along with the latest AIG manager.

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16 hours ago, Sky_Pilot071 said:

Note no question just that 2024 is better than you think.

My best feature is that my 5900x cruises along at 30% unlike 10% in my previous sim.

All the while my 3060ti is doing the job 70% VRAM.

dd

Thank you for sharing, Jorg.

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7 hours ago, bobcat999 said:

Well this is a useless thread.  Is this what the 2024 evangelists have to post once in a while to try to convince themselves, because most users won't be fooled. 
It needs maybe another year, and then I bet we still won't have fixes for the pop-up runway turnoff markers, the random stuttering, the planes floating in the air at airports, settings getting lost etc., etc., etc.,

2024 doesn't need anything other than constant Internet connection LOL I've been flying stutter free just like I did in 2020 but much smoother. So it's not just an empty praises. I run Intell 13900k, 64 gig ram, Gforce 4090 : everything on Ultra except shadow. I can't be more happier! Right now I focus mostly on airliners PMDG and Inibuilds long hauls. 

 

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I have both sims on my machine with an I7-12700, 64GB Ram, and a 4090. I like 2020 for all the addons I bought for it over the years  the main that still bothers me about it is scenery popping/draw distance, and load times (probably because of all the addons I have). I do have to say that 2024 to my eyes has much improved scenery and no popping. I do however have issues with random CTD (SU2 Beta). I have purchased hardware addons from Winwing that for me, makes me stick with the PMDG 73's in 2020 and Fenix in 2024 as I almost exclusively fly tubeliners. You may say better scenery doesn't make a difference at 30K feet. You're right. However, it does make a difference on takeoff and approach/landing. Just my 2 cents

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The whole point of this thread was to get folks to think.  Sorry if I offended.  lol

dd

12 hours ago, bobcat999 said:

2024 evangelists

Are they any different to the 2020 evangelists?

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8 hours ago, sympilot said:

the main that still bothers me about it is scenery popping/draw distance

Since you have a 4090, have you tried high settings of TLOD and OLOD? I use 300 and 1000 respectively (on the ground, TLOD 800 in the air) and the object and scenery draw distance isn't problematic. AutoFPS will reduce them if your card gets busy.

 

On 5/11/2025 at 6:24 AM, Rodster said:

Nothing wrong with my setup. I have seen it several times. I turned off real time air traffic. That fixed it for me. I'm glad MSFS 2024 works the way you like it but I can't unsee what I have seen.

I agree using real-time traffic results in some pretty "unique" behavior from the AI aircraft sometimes (a LOT of times).  That's why I use the FSLTL aircraft and the AIG injector.  Performance is great after converting aircraft textures from 4K to 1K or 2K, and the aircraft mostly behave correctly.  The downsides are no GA traffic and the FSLTL aircraft tend not to land - which I believe is a 2024 bug.  But I NEVER see those terrible default liveries or pink aircraft due to missing liveries.  Hopefully the lack of FSLTL airliners landing at airports will be corrected in the coming months.

1 hour ago, PlumCrazy said:

I agree using real-time traffic results in some pretty "unique" behavior from the AI aircraft sometimes (a LOT of times).  That's why I use the FSLTL aircraft and the AIG injector.  Performance is great after converting aircraft textures from 4K to 1K or 2K, and the aircraft mostly behave correctly.  The downsides are no GA traffic and the FSLTL aircraft tend not to land - which I believe is a 2024 bug.  But I NEVER see those terrible default liveries or pink aircraft due to missing liveries.  Hopefully the lack of FSLTL airliners landing at airports will be corrected in the coming months.

How do you figure it's a 2024 bug that your AI wont land? When all my AI land, taxi and take off as should. Why can't it be an FSLTL issue?

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12 minutes ago, Bigmack said:

How do you figure it's a 2024 bug that your AI wont land? When all my AI land, taxi and take off as should. Why can't it be an FSLTL issue?

The reason why i asked you about your experience with AIG's Traffic controller is because a few of us.... myself included have refrained from doing much with MSFS2024 because AIG stated its traffic controller was not working properly with MSFS2024. You are the second person i have encountered that states that everything is working. Based on your stated experience i have spent most of last night setting up and accommodating a dual AIG installation for MSFS2020 and 2024. Mind you it was not a smooth experience but i guess nothing is smooth when it comes to AIG (I remember it being just as tedious for 2020 but i digress)

Bottom line in the few minutes i used to test the Traffic Controller loads aircraft in properly in MSFS2024 .. However it was 2am in the morning and i could not verify Taxi,Takeoff, Actual flying and landing flow witth the Traffic controller in MSFS2024. I will do that later tonight after work. Hopefully it works for the most part or i will have to just use AIG for Vatsim model matching since i wanted to get on to Vatsim anyway and utilize MSFS 2024  that way untill the controller is 100% functional (If it does not work).

 

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1 hour ago, Maxis said:

The reason why i asked you about your experience with AIG's Traffic controller is because a few of us.... myself included have refrained from doing much with MSFS2024 because AIG stated its traffic controller was not working properly with MSFS2024. You are the second person i have encountered that states that everything is working. Based on your stated experience i have spent most of last night setting up and accommodating a dual AIG installation for MSFS2020 and 2024. Mind you it was not a smooth experience but i guess nothing is smooth when it comes to AIG (I remember it being just as tedious for 2020 but i digress)

Bottom line in the few minutes i used to test the Traffic Controller loads aircraft in properly in MSFS2024 .. However it was 2am in the morning and i could not verify Taxi,Takeoff, Actual flying and landing flow witth the Traffic controller in MSFS2024. I will do that later tonight after work. Hopefully it works for the most part or i will have to just use AIG for Vatsim model matching since i wanted to get on to Vatsim anyway and utilize MSFS 2024  that way untill the controller is 100% functional (If it does not work).

 

Traffic controller only injects the traffic into 2024. It's the same version that's being used for 2020, AIG has not updated it yet, but it works to inject traffic into 2024. AI manager is the important part that updates 2020 AIG AI to 2024 AI so you won't get floating AI or AI with no lights. Installing AIG is no fast process, it may take a few days to get everything installed correctly, but once done, it runs great. And you get GA traffic included. Also no need to do a dual download. Just install AIG for 2020, then copy the 2020 files into your 2024 install, then convert the models in your 2024 install to 2024 models. Then you're all set. There's a work instruction on the AIG website telling how to do step by step.

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