Note no question just that 2024 is better than you think.

My best feature is that my 5900x cruises along at 30% unlike 10% in my previous sim.

All the while my 3060ti is doing the job @ 70% VRAM.

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"Better than I think"? 🤔In what way "better" than msfs 2020???... I was HOPING for that when I tried ms2024 via GamePass a few days ago...

And what a total and utterly dissapointment it was!!! 

I might try it again in a year or so, but at its stage for the moment. No thank You!

 P.

Well this is a useless thread.  Is this what the 2024 evangelists have to post once in a while to try to convince themselves, because most users won't be fooled. 
It needs maybe another year, and then I bet we still won't have fixes for the pop-up runway turnoff markers, the random stuttering, the planes floating in the air at airports, settings getting lost etc., etc., etc.,

Exactly!!! 👍👍👍

24 minutes ago, bobcat999 said:

Well this is a useless thread.  Is this what the 2024 evangelists have to post once in a while to try to convince themselves, because most users won't be fooled. 
It needs maybe another year, and then I bet we still won't have fixes for the pop-up runway turnoff markers, the random stuttering, the planes floating in the air at airports, settings getting lost etc., etc., etc.,

All those things that you listed are not an issue especially floating AI, stuttering or settings getting lost. I just completed a flight in PMDG 772 from RJAA to VHHH and did not experience any of those issues. I'm not requesting that you switch sims but at least get your information correct and not hear say.

Edited May 11, 20251 yr by Bigmack

21 minutes ago, bobcat999 said:

Well this is a useless thread.  Is this what the 2024 evangelists have to post once in a while to try to convince themselves, because most users won't be fooled. 
It needs maybe another year, and then I bet we still won't have fixes for the pop-up runway turnoff markers, the random stuttering, the planes floating in the air at airports, settings getting lost etc., etc., etc.,

Yeah, I turned off "Real Time Air Traffic" once I was taking off at JFK and witnessed approximately 20 planes several feet apart and a few commercial airliners flying backwards. That broke the realism factor by 10. Thankfully, Microsoft no longer uses the tagline "As Real As It Gets" for the Microsoft Flight Simulator franchise.

Don't get me wrong, I am appreciative of what Asobo has done, as a developer with nary any background in flight simulation development, so major props to them but MSFS 2024 does need work.

1 minute ago, Rodster said:

Yeah, I turned off "Real Time Air Traffic" once I was taking off at JFK and witnessed approximately 20 planes several feet apart and a few commercial airliners flying backwards. That broke the realism factor by 10. Thankfully, Microsoft no longer uses the tagline "As Real As It Gets" for the Microsoft Flight Simulator franchise.

Don't get me wrong, I am appreciative of what Asobo has done, as a developer with nary any background in flight simulation development, so major props to them but MSFS 2024 does need work.

Then there's something really wrong with your setup. I have never seen that using AIG AI.

6 hours ago, buspelle said:

Better than I think"? 🤔In what way "better" than msfs 2020???... I was HOPING for that when I tried ms2024 via GamePass a few days ago

Good grief, there are plenty of information sources that list the improvements over 2020.  

 

6 hours ago, buspelle said:

And what a total and utterly dissapointment it was!!! 

In what way?  

 

6 hours ago, buspelle said:

I might try it again in a year or so, but at its stage for the moment. No thank You!

Again, why 'no thank you'?

You need to give more info than that.

7 minutes ago, Bigmack said:

Then there's something really wrong with your setup. I have never seen that using AIG AI.

Nothing wrong with my setup. I have seen it several times. I turned off real time air traffic. That fixed it for me. I'm glad MSFS 2024 works the way you like it but I can't unsee what I have seen.

2 hours ago, bobcat999 said:

Is this what the 2024 evangelists have to post once in a while to try to convince themselves, because most users won't be fooled. 

Let's turn this around shall we:

On the other hand we have the constant moaning from the people who don't want to make the transition, having to tell the rest of the world every 2 weeks how perfectly 2020 runs and that they don't see making a transition to the oh so awful 2024 for the next year.

Edited May 11, 20251 yr by Farlis

YoU mUst L1kE MsFs2o24!

No

YoU mUst L1kE MsFs2o2O!

 

Let me think.

Ease of installation? MSFS 2024 WINS

Size of Installation? MSFS 2024 WINS

Fast boot to main menu? MSFS 2024 WINS

Flight Planner? MSFS 2024 WINS

Terrain Improvements? MSFS 2024 WINS

Aircraft ground handling? MSFS 2024 WINS

Number of aircraft & features? MSFS 2024 WINS

Default weather engine? MSFS 2024 WINS

Included seasons? MSFS 2024 WINS

I'm sure that there's more.

What am I missing?

Having said all that, MSFS 2020 is still my sim of choice. These threads might help some and anger others.

Can we just enjoy our preferred sim?

 

• Already installed and paid for - MSFS 2020 wins
• DX11 mode - MSFS 2020 wins
• MSFS 2020 airport addon compatibility - MSFS 2020 wins
• PMDG 737-600 compatibility - MSFS 2020 wins
• Custom static aircraft generator - MSFS 2020 wins
• GAIST compatibility - MSFS 2020 wins
• AIG AI models and flightplans database compatibility - MSFS 2020 wins
• Night lighting - MSFS 2020 wins
• Local storage of assets - MSFS 2020 wins
• Stuff I have no knowledge about, but some bloke told me down the pub - MSFS 2020 wins

Please note that this post is for the general amusement of the AVSIM membership. No responsibility is taken for the accuracy of the above statements, as I simply do not care. Oh, and Bob told me that MSFS 2020 is better.

Edited May 11, 20251 yr by Christopher Low

4 hours ago, Rodster said:

Nothing wrong with my setup. I have seen it several times. I turned off real time air traffic. That fixed it for me. I'm glad MSFS 2024 works the way you like it but I can't unsee what I have seen.

I never used the sim real time traffic AI, so you may be correct. I only use AIG for my AI traffic, and it runs quite well. And whatever Asobo done in its recent under the hood updates, Vram usage has dropped almost 30% and my FPS has almost tripled in some of the worst areas. This is just my experience. I will amit that 2024 had a rough start and I also wanted to drop it all together and return to 2020, because of performance, but I cannot go back to 2020 at this point with the changes SU2 beta has injected into the sim. There's still much work to be done but 2024 but it is maturing very well from what it was when first released. Will it ever be perfect, IDK, but its looking good for the future. That's why developers are moving on to the new platform and leaving the older one behind. You can live in the past or embrace the future. you can see it coming just what developers are releasing and supporting. 2020 will be obsolete by years end.

Edited May 11, 20251 yr by Bigmack

2 hours ago, Christopher Low said:

Stuff I have no knowledge about, but some bloke told me down the pub - MSFS 2020 wins

I was with you until this point - no self respecting flight simmer would waste time in a pub when they could be flying.