May 28, 20251 yr 400 GB, not bad for a 22 Petabyte game......................... AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 4.2 32 gig ram, Nvidia RTX3060 12 gig, Intel 760 SSD M2 NVMe 512 gig, M2NVMe 1Tbt (OS) M2NVMe 2Tbt (MSFS) Crucial MX500 SSD (Backup OS). VR Oculus Quest 2 Windows 11 25H2 YouTube:- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC96wsF3D_h5GzNNJnuDH3WQ 2k+ Videos & Streams BATC and FSFO FB Group:- https://www.facebook.com/groups/1571953959750565 Flight Sim First Officer (FSFOv6) and SoFly Beta Tester Reality Is For People Who Can't Handle Simulation!
May 28, 20251 yr 2 hours ago, BrammyH said: I think I will download the hand crafted airports and the default planes I like to fly. That will, hopefully, ease some of the pop in and texture lag. The rest of the sim? Nope. With SU 3 that can be done right now. 5800X3D, RTX4070, 600 Watt, one or two 1440p 32" screens, 64 GB RAM, 4 TB PCle 3 NVMe, Warthog throttle, VKB NXT EVO stick, Honeycomb Alpha yoke, CH quad, 3 Logitech panels, 2 StreamDecks, Desktop Aviator Trim Panel. Crystal Light VR.
May 28, 20251 yr 54 minutes ago, kerosene31 said: Choice is best for everyone. I think it makes sense to at least download a few common addons. Personally, I have no interest in using up all that drive space. I have very good internet and haven't run into problems. I'm not sure if people are aware, but the latest Call of Duty game does texture streaming. Like it or not, it is where gaming is going as connections get better and install sizes explode. People play COD at 120 fps+ and are even more likely to notice any stutter or blip in performance. Most people don't even know it is doing that. Last I checked, there's still no download option in COD. People are playing COD a lot more on consoles, over wifi, etc. I wonder how many problems are really streaming or just performance. I know they said 2024 would run just as well or better on the same hardware, but in my experience, that was not the case. My old PC that ran 2020 fine basically struggled with 2024 until I upgraded. Probably got some of that in the mix as well, definitely doesn't like the rtx3070. Not getting it replaced any time soon though... Gary Davies aka "Gazzareth" Simming since 747 on the Acorn Electron
May 28, 20251 yr I haven't had any performance issues with the streaming side of 2024, quite the opposite in fact. Way better load times, no detectable problems with stuttering and such like. And I figure if the servers completely die, even temporarily, having the sim held locally but not being able to access the PG is not giving me anything I would want to use anyway, even assuming it actually worked. So no, I won't be downloading. Ryzen 9 7900X, Corsair H150 AIO cooler, 64 Gb DDR5, Asus X670E Hero m/b, 3090ti, 13Tb NVMe, 8Tb SSD, 16Tb HD, 55" Philips 4k HDR monitor, EVGA 1600w ps, all in Corsair 7000D airflow case. Sims in use - 2020, 2024, XP-12 and -11, FSX/SE, P3Dv4.5 and v5.4. DCS and AFS2 installed but rarely used
May 28, 20251 yr 2 hours ago, Gazzareth said: Probably got some of that in the mix as well, definitely doesn't like the rtx3070. Not getting it replaced any time soon though... Yep, I had a 3070 that wasn't top of the line, but handled most games ok with reasonable settings. 2024 wasn't going to run on my 3070 with any reasonable settings. I upgraded my PC to a 4080 super (not even crazy expensive) and it was a huge difference. I'm guessing around a 4000 series card is probably what is required to really get the most out of the game. I still think 2020 is the option for older PCs. I don't think it is streaming, the game just wants a powerful video card. ------------------------- Craig from KBUF
May 28, 20251 yr Great news, I rather keep content locally, got plenty of space available. Windows 11 - Samsung 990 Pro M.2 | Asus Prime Z690 | i7 12700KF HT | DeepCool LS520 SE | MSI 5070 Ti Ventus OC | 64GB G.Skill XMP II | Lian Li 216 LANCOOL RGB | TrackIr v5 | Honeycomb Alfa - Bravo - Charlie | MSFS 2024 - Samsung 990 Pro M.2 | Curved 27" MSI | JBL Quantum 810
May 28, 20251 yr 26 minutes ago, kerosene31 said: Yep, I had a 3070 that wasn't top of the line, but handled most games ok with reasonable settings. 2024 wasn't going to run on my 3070 with any reasonable settings. I upgraded my PC to a 4080 super (not even crazy expensive) and it was a huge difference. I'm guessing around a 4000 series card is probably what is required to really get the most out of the game. I still think 2020 is the option for older PCs. I don't think it is streaming, the game just wants a powerful video card. My 3060ti works a treat! Good beer is more important than a new GPU IMO. lol dd
May 28, 20251 yr Author 50 minutes ago, kerosene31 said: Yep, I had a 3070 that wasn't top of the line, but handled most games ok with reasonable settings. 2024 wasn't going to run on my 3070 with any reasonable settings. I upgraded my PC to a 4080 super (not even crazy expensive) and it was a huge difference. I'm guessing around a 4000 series card is probably what is required to really get the most out of the game. I still think 2020 is the option for older PCs. I don't think it is streaming, the game just wants a powerful video card. Where you using lossless scaling with the 3070? Flight Sim Software/Hardware: MSFS 2020 Premium Deluxe | MSFS 2024 Aviator | X-Plane Mobile 12 | X-Plane 12 | Thrustmaster TCA Captain Pack Airbus Edition | Thrustmaster TCA Yoke Pack Boeing Edition | Honeycomb Alpha Flight Controls | Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant | Turtle Beach Velocity One Rudder | Xbox wireless controller | Stream Deck + | Flight Radar 24 Gold | Navigraph | Simbrief | WINCTRL PAP 3 MAG, 3N PDC, 3M PDC & PFP 7 | Wingflex A320 EFIS, RMP & FCU Cube | 3rd Party Hanger: Fenix: A319, 320, 321 | Flight Factor: 777-200ER with engine variants | Flight FX: HondaJet HA420 | FlyJSim: Dash 8 Q400 | Hot Start: Challenger 650 | iFly: 737 Max | iniBuilds: A350 | PMDG: 737-800, 777-200ER, 777-300ER, DC-6 | Toliss: A321 with engine variants | Zibo: 737-800 Computer Equipment: Intel i7-13000K | Asus Tuf Z790 | 64 GB Corsair Ram | 2 TB NVMe OS Drive | 4 TB NVMe Game Drive | 3 X 4TB SATA Data Drives | Windows 11 | Asus Dual RTX 4070 CAE Full Motion Flight Simulator Experience: Boeing 737, Boeing 767, Boeing 787 Real Aircraft Flying Experience: Schempp-Hirth Janus, Cessna 172 and Cessna 185 https://www.youtube.com/@CYVRAviation
May 28, 20251 yr Try MSFS 2024 on holidays, weekends, or other days when people are off work. So difficult. I really welcome the ability to load MSFS and not deal with the "streaming circus".
May 28, 20251 yr I would rather have my teeth drilled than do a 1/2tb download. Streaming is the ticket and way overdue IMO. AMD FSR3 is awesome! dd Edited May 28, 20251 yr by Sky_Pilot071
May 29, 20251 yr i'm fine with 400gb considering the scale of the game, I mean some of these newer COD games are a couple hundred once installed. Storage is cheap these day's anyway. --Sean Hart
May 29, 20251 yr 11 hours ago, kerosene31 said: Yep, I had a 3070 that wasn't top of the line, but handled most games ok with reasonable settings. 2024 wasn't going to run on my 3070 with any reasonable settings. I upgraded my PC to a 4080 super (not even crazy expensive) and it was a huge difference. I'm guessing around a 4000 series card is probably what is required to really get the most out of the game. I still think 2020 is the option for older PCs. I don't think it is streaming, the game just wants a powerful video card. If your original 3070 could not handle MSFS 2024, then my GTX 980Ti is not going to be good enough. Since I have no intention of upgrading my current PC any time soon, I suspect that I will be sticking with MSFS 2020 for a considerable length of time. Maybe long enough to bypass MSFS 2024 altogether. Whether I can live with not having access to lots of lovely new MSFS 2024 airports is the $64000 question..... Christopher Low AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU / 64GB DDR5-6000 RAM / 12GB Nvidia RTX 4070 Super GPU / Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite Wifi 7 / 1+2TB Samsung Evo Plus M2 Nvme UK2000 Beta Tester
May 29, 20251 yr 17 hours ago, alanw2005 said: Some MSFS 2024 users are not a fan of streaming and would like the option for a local install. Careful what you wish for. MSFS 2024 is making this an option. Luckily you have a choice as a local install will take 400 GB! So what? I have 660GB already of third party scenery on my 2TB disk. Plenty of room.
May 29, 20251 yr Commercial Member 17 hours ago, Bad_T said: just even the idea of streaming the same plane/scenery every time was a bad one for me because at the end of the 2024 journey you would have downloaded 400gb of the same single plane instead of taking once a few minute to download it and store it on your hardrive. Not sure how that can be perceived as a good idea by anyone but well we are all different. It is not downloaded every time. Set the cache to 200gb and it will download and cache everything and will automatically keep the stuff you use again and again ... forever. The cache is kind of an automatic, intelligent and optimized download manager. It automatically does what you ask: stream everything once and keep your favorites, priorized by your usage.
May 29, 20251 yr YMMV but in my case, downloading all data to disk did absolutely nothing. No faster loading, nothing. I don't have any issues with streaming fortunately, so i'll just leave data on the web until (if) it justifies. CASE: Fractal Terra Silver CPU: AMD R5 7800X3D 5.0Ghz RAM: 32GB DDR5 6000 GPU: nVidia RTX 4070 Ti SUPER · SSDs: Samsung 990 PRO 2TB M.2 PCIe · PNY XLR8 CS3040 2TB M.2 PCIe · VIDEO: LG-32GK650F QHD 32" 144Hz FREE/G-SYNC · MISC: Thrustmaster TCA Airbus Joystick + Throttle Quadrant · MSFS2024 · Windows 11
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