June 3, 20251 yr 15 minutes ago, flying_carpet said: Basic things should be implemented from the beginning Do you have the list of approved "basic things"? Super duper subjective as to what matters. For me, worldwide ortho scenery is absolutely positively--basic 😉 Noel System: 9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync. Aircraft used in MSFS 2024: Fenix A320, Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.
June 3, 20251 yr The ability to land at an airport without dropping FPS from 90 on approach to about 10 when you get just over the runway is missing. May not be for all, but it’s reported by very many people on the forums. Cloud quality from the middle distance is missing, they now have horrible LOD compared to 2020 and just look like terrible blobs in the distance. A side effect of this is that big fronts don’t form in the distance. They just start as these blobs and then morph into actual clouds as you get closer. You can observe this by zooming in on the clouds in the distance and seeing them change shape in about 1 second intervals. Airport ground lighting and papis realism is missing. They just turned them into massive blobs rather than the nice sharp lights like they used to be. A decent UI is missing. What was content manager is awful. For example you search for EGLL to disable the handcrafted and about 7 lines appear all within sub menus etc. In 2020, you search the ICAO code and literally that airport just appears and you can easily see where it is. The menus are a disaster, so laggy. Weight and balance is missing. You can’t load the aircraft properly, you can see this by the values on the weight and balance screen in the menu completely not matching what you have set with the useless EFB. Crisp ground textures are missing. It’s a right royal mess. Edited June 3, 20251 yr by abennett
June 3, 20251 yr 12 minutes ago, abennett said: It’s a right royal mess. Outside of the odd logic in how the GUI was done in spots the rest of your complaints are so foreign here it makes me think your machine or software config is a royal mess. I just had the most exquisite dawn flight out of KSLC, unbelievably crisp and spectacular as has been the view from on high to KSAN. I don't have any substantial drop in rate upon arrival except the predicted drop when coming into the most demanding terminals, and then it's a drop from 50 to 42+ at the lowest. PAPI's, 'massive blob'? 'Laggy' menus? Something's wrong on your end. The EFB has fabulous elements for a universal EFB. Your description of clouds doesn't fit here either. I just did your zooming suggestion and saw nothing other than zooming in. Further, total cloud/lighting depiction is for me is vastly closer to what I will see in the RW over 2020 depiction. Noel System: 9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync. Aircraft used in MSFS 2024: Fenix A320, Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.
June 3, 20251 yr Author 32 minutes ago, abennett said: The ability to land at an airport without dropping FPS from 90 on approach to about 10 when you get just over the runway is missing. May not be for all, but it’s reported by very many people on the forums. Cloud quality from the middle distance is missing, they now have horrible LOD compared to 2020 and just look like terrible blobs in the distance. A side effect of this is that big fronts don’t form in the distance. They just start as these blobs and then morph into actual clouds as you get closer. You can observe this by zooming in on the clouds in the distance and seeing them change shape in about 1 second intervals. Airport ground lighting and papis realism is missing. They just turned them into massive blobs rather than the nice sharp lights like they used to be. A decent UI is missing. What was content manager is awful. For example you search for EGLL to disable the handcrafted and about 7 lines appear all within sub menus etc. In 2020, you search the ICAO code and literally that airport just appears and you can easily see where it is. The menus are a disaster, so laggy. Weight and balance is missing. You can’t load the aircraft properly, you can see this by the values on the weight and balance screen in the menu completely not matching what you have set with the useless EFB. Crisp ground textures are missing. It’s a right royal mess. This one right here drives me bonkers😮 Weight and balance is missing. You can’t load the aircraft properly, you can see this by the values on the weight and balance screen in the menu completely not matching what you have set with the useless EFB.
June 3, 20251 yr 19 minutes ago, Noel said: it makes me think your machine or software config is a royal mess. No it's not Noel. It's just not. The only royal mess is 2024. 20 minutes ago, Noel said: I just had the most exquisite dawn flight out of KSLC, unbelievably crisp and spectacular as has been the view from on high to KSAN. Good for you 🥱 20 minutes ago, Noel said: PAPI's, 'massive blob'? 'Laggy' menus? Something's wrong on your end. Again, no it is not. Known problems. Check the official forums for lists and lists of complaints such as this one. Or just keep turning a blind eye to it. 1 hour ago, Noel said: Do you have the list of approved "basic things"? Super duper subjective as to what matters. For me, worldwide ortho scenery is absolutely positively--basic 😉 Do you have a list? And why the wink face? Just can't help yourself can you? I would say that for me working AI and ATC is absolutely positively--basic for a simulator that is supposed to be simulating a flight environment. Otherwise why do I have a detailed 737, being overtaken by a CJ4 on the runway that was directed to do so by buggy ATC that doesn't even know I am there. But sure I can look at the outdated photo scenery of a fair that comes near my house once a year, but is permanently there in MSFS, that pops in to place as I fly over it. Super immersive.
June 3, 20251 yr The classic "it doesn't happen to me therefore it must be your setup" argument 🥱 be good if people actually frequented the official bug reporting forums to see what's being reported before making fools of themselves eh! Pico Neo3 Link VR - Windows 11 64bit, Gigabyte Z590 Aorus Elite Mobo, i7-10700KF CPU, Gigabyte RX 9070 XT OC 16gb (AMD GPU), 32gig Corsair 3600mhz RAM, SSD x2 + M.2 SSD 1tb x1 Saitek X45 HOTAS - Saitek Pro Rudder Pedals - Logitech Flight Yoke - Homemade 3 Button & 8-directional Joystick Box, SNES Controller (used as a Button Box - Additional USB Numpad (used as a Button Box)
June 3, 20251 yr 58 minutes ago, Noel said: Outside of the odd logic in how the GUI was done in spots the rest of your complaints are so foreign here it makes me think your machine or software config is a royal mess. I just had the most exquisite dawn flight out of KSLC, unbelievably crisp and spectacular as has been the view from on high to KSAN. I don't have any substantial drop in rate upon arrival except the predicted drop when coming into the most demanding terminals, and then it's a drop from 50 to 42+ at the lowest. PAPI's, 'massive blob'? 'Laggy' menus? Something's wrong on your end. The EFB has fabulous elements for a universal EFB. Your description of clouds doesn't fit here either. I just did your zooming suggestion and saw nothing other than zooming in. Further, total cloud/lighting depiction is for me is vastly closer to what I will see in the RW over 2020 depiction. People keep saying that, and yet he is not the only person with these issues. There are plenty of other MSFS 2024 users on this forum who apparently suffer from the same problems. Do they all have something wrong with their PCs?? Edited June 3, 20251 yr by Christopher Low Christopher Low AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU / 64GB DDR5-6000 RAM / 12GB Nvidia RTX 4070 Super GPU / Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite Wifi 7 / 1+2TB Samsung Evo Plus M2 Nvme UK2000 Beta Tester
June 3, 20251 yr 7 minutes ago, Ianrivaldosmith said: Just can't help yourself can you Says the pompous pot to the kettle. You don't have a clue if abennet's hardware and setup are borked or not. When someone describes coming in to land and dropping from 90fps to 10fps isn't a massive bright red flag that something is indeed all FU? I don't experience this at all and have settings tuned to insure that and don't use FG. If you're still trying to use default ATC and traffic in either version of MSFS you're more lost than I imagined. But that's not why you're here as you don't intend to make MSFS 2024 work for you. You only wish to bash, period. 5 minutes ago, MarcG said: The classic "it doesn't happen to me therefore it must be your setup" argument 🥱 Oh I see so setup and hardware don't come into play, oh okay. Yep, 2024 is fabulous here, unbelievably gorgeous and performance is stellar. No 'laggy' menus here. Noel System: 9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync. Aircraft used in MSFS 2024: Fenix A320, Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.
June 3, 20251 yr Just now, Christopher Low said: Do they all have something wrong with their PCs?? Never said all those with complaints have something wrong with their PCs that is your twist. The red flag in abennet's post was the obviously screwed up drop from 90fps to 10fps during landing. If that happens to you in 2024 it's very likely your configuration from hardware drivers or your LOD settings or something along those lines. I don't need to visit forums which are replete with problem reporting so are super biased to the negative. What I do know is 2024 SU2 has been fabulous, trouble free, visually super compelling and with stellar performance. Noel System: 9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync. Aircraft used in MSFS 2024: Fenix A320, Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.
June 3, 20251 yr 31 minutes ago, Noel said: Says the pompous pot to the kettle. Ahhh, personal insults/remarks now then? I'll just leave that here...
June 3, 20251 yr 32 minutes ago, Noel said: But that's not why you're here as you don't intend to make MSFS 2024 work for you. You only wish to bash, period. Ermmm no it isn't and no I don't.
June 3, 20251 yr 33 minutes ago, Noel said: Yep, 2024 is fabulous here, unbelievably gorgeous and performance is stellar. No 'laggy' menus here. Good for you 🥱
June 3, 20251 yr The low FPS on final is a widely reported issue since SU2 beta, but some people just bury their heads in the sand because it doesn't happen to them... Better off ignored. Pico Neo3 Link VR - Windows 11 64bit, Gigabyte Z590 Aorus Elite Mobo, i7-10700KF CPU, Gigabyte RX 9070 XT OC 16gb (AMD GPU), 32gig Corsair 3600mhz RAM, SSD x2 + M.2 SSD 1tb x1 Saitek X45 HOTAS - Saitek Pro Rudder Pedals - Logitech Flight Yoke - Homemade 3 Button & 8-directional Joystick Box, SNES Controller (used as a Button Box - Additional USB Numpad (used as a Button Box)
June 3, 20251 yr 36 minutes ago, Noel said: you're more lost than I imagined. delete. Not worth it. Edited June 3, 20251 yr by Ianrivaldosmith
June 3, 20251 yr 1 minute ago, MarcG said: The low FPS on final is a widely reported issue since SU2 beta, but some people just bury their heads in the sand because it doesn't happen to them... Better off ignored. He eventually made me put him on my ignore list. Completely delusional.
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