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SU3 1.5.17.0 available...

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51 minutes ago, Langeveldt said:

Has anyone noticed ground textures being nerfed at all?  Just flew into Antalya and the distant mountains looked like absolute mush, which they did a few months ago.  

Do you have Dynamic Settings (ie. Dynamic FPS) enabled?

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49 minutes ago, DAD said:

literally leave LEBL then and pick another airport 😁

Yep, I definitely have to give up on that one 🙂

I thought I might try what I've seen recommended and I have never done in FS 2024 - deleting the Rolling CACHE, but I gave up because contrarily to what I faintly recall from FS 2020, FS 2024 doesn't have an option in it's Online / Data settings to delete the Rolling CACHE, just to point to where it is and to dimension it.

I'll wait for a fix.

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52 minutes ago, abrams_tank said:

Do you have Dynamic Settings (ie. Dynamic FPS) enabled?

Good suggestion, but no  

I've a feeling it may be to do with my internet.  Even though it improved later in flight, I think that's what borked the resolution for the whole flight.  Glad to see it's not a regression.  

18 minutes ago, jcomm said:

Yep, I definitely have to give up on that one 🙂

I thought I might try what I've seen recommended and I have never done in FS 2024 - deleting the Rolling CACHE, but I gave up because contrarily to what I faintly recall from FS 2020, FS 2024 doesn't have an option in it's Online / Data settings to delete the Rolling CACHE, just to point to where it is and to dimension it.

I'll wait for a fix.

Just go to the folder where you directed it and manually delete it through File Explorer. 

1 hour ago, jcomm said:

Yep, I definitely have to give up on that one 🙂

I thought I might try what I've seen recommended and I have never done in FS 2024 - deleting the Rolling CACHE, but I gave up because contrarily to what I faintly recall from FS 2020, FS 2024 doesn't have an option in it's Online / Data settings to delete the Rolling CACHE, just to point to where it is and to dimension it.

I'll wait for a fix.

Deleting the rolling cache is another snake oil "fix" in my opinion. I never saw any benefit in it. If that really worked, I believe that Asobo would have implemented a system to flush it every now and then, instead are we supposed to manually delete a file buried in a remote subdirectory that is not even visible? Appdata is hidden by default in Windows installations.

The beta testing and bug fixing are proceeding at excruciatingly slow pace compared to FS2020, with enormous regressions in terms of performance: SU1>>SU2>SU3 beta. SU2 and SU3 have brought back the CPU bottlenecks and the stuttering that were considered history a few months ago. Do you all remember those enthusiastic threads and videos about the better performance of FS2024 compared to MSFS? They are still in the forums, if you need a refresh... and the improvements were real.

I find certain posts amusing by the way, now we have another prescription in the vein of "it's your fault for doing that": don't use the Barcelona airport.

So we have:

  • Don't use ATC
  • Don't use AI traffic
  • Don't use Real traffic
  • Don't use the Flight planner: it still doesn't have performance data and is unable to provide fuel estimations after how many months from launch? Six? Abandonware
  • Don't use photogrammetry
  • Don't use damage simulation: terrain elevation is a mess in many airports and you will crash on the taxiways. Sadly, planes are not very good at climbing stairs. Also, pushback often pushes the plane against buildings or other parked aircraft so...
  • Don't use pushback
  • Don't use Career mode
  • Don't use Fauna
  • Don't use Dynamic settings
  • Don't consider Asobo hardware recommendations
  • Don't use LEBL
  • ...

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40 minutes ago, jcomm said:

Yep, I definitely have to give up on that one 🙂

I thought I might try what I've seen recommended and I have never done in FS 2024 - deleting the Rolling CACHE, but I gave up because contrarily to what I faintly recall from FS 2020, FS 2024 doesn't have an option in it's Online / Data settings to delete the Rolling CACHE, just to point to where it is and to dimension it.

I'll wait for a fix.

Well..... I just attempted a flight from there: No discernable issues. Can you be more specific about your exact scenario?

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2 hours ago, Langeveldt said:

Has anyone noticed ground textures being nerfed at all?  Just flew into Antalya and the distant mountains looked like absolute mush, which they did a few months ago.

I tend to agree ... lets hope its just serverside temporary regression

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40 minutes ago, MrFuzzy said:

Deleting the rolling cache is another snake oil "fix" in my opinion. I never saw any benefit in it. If that really worked, I believe that Asobo would have implemented a system to flush it every now and then, instead are we supposed to manually delete a file buried in a remote subdirectory that is not even visible? Appdata is hidden by default in Windows installations.

The beta testing and bug fixing are proceeding at excruciatingly slow pace compared to FS2020, with enormous regressions in terms of performance: SU1>>SU2>SU3 beta. SU2 and SU3 have brought back the CPU bottlenecks and the stuttering that were considered history a few months ago. Do you all remember those enthusiastic threads and videos about the better performance of FS2024 compared to MSFS? They are still in the forums, if you need a refresh... and the improvements were real.

I find certain posts amusing by the way, now we have another prescription in the vein of "it's your fault for doing that": don't use the Barcelona airport.

So we have:

  • Don't use ATC
  • Don't use AI traffic
  • Don't use Real traffic
  • Don't use the Flight planner: it still doesn't have performance data and is unable to provide fuel estimations after how many months from launch? Six? Abandonware
  • Don't use photogrammetry
  • Don't use damage simulation: terrain elevation is a mess in many airports and you will crash on the taxiways. Sadly, planes are not very good at climbing stairs. Also, pushback often pushes the plane against buildings or other parked aircraft so...
  • Don't use pushback
  • Don't use Career mode
  • Don't use Fauna
  • Don't use Dynamic settings
  • Don't use LEBL
  • ...

Ha! Now that is a good response. Sums it up pretty well. 

10 hours ago, abrams_tank said:

I think the communication is okay,

The communication with my local MP is pretty good too, but it doesn't mean anything that he says and promises mean anything, though. 

The list above by @MrFuzzysums it up pretty nicely. 

 

Edited by Ianrivaldosmith

Great, 2 CTDs midflight with the BKSQ Starship ... beside the one SU3 betaversion where everyone got a CTD, I very, very, very rarely have CTDs.
Now that ... 🥱

Guenter Steiner
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Betatester for: A2A, LORBY, FSR-Pillow Tester
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44 minutes ago, HiFlyer said:

Well..... I just attempted a flight from there: No discernable issues. Can you be more specific about your exact scenario?

Yep,

either 24R or 06L have been given to me with their assocoated SIDs, and I've been trying to use the iFly 737 MAX and the FSLabs A321.

The flightplan is mostly the same. I open SimBrief and simply edit it and adjust for the new date/time/weather ( real world ).

Well, it's now working beautifully with the default 320 NEO, which isn't that bad for a default aircraft.

I will try the same route with the Fenix and the PMDG 777, as well as with the IniBuilds 350 and see if I also get that same CTD I was getting with the iFly and FSLabs.

But overall the experience with FS 2024 is positive to me.

I have practically givemn up on BATC, use only default ATC because even with it's limitations it does most of what it does acceptably for my level of demand, and I am now also using only built in AI Traffic, because the built in Real Traffic was too intromissive 🙂

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56 minutes ago, MrFuzzy said:

Deleting the rolling cache is another snake oil "fix" in my opinion. I never saw any benefit in it. If that really worked, I believe that Asobo would have implemented a system to flush it every now and then, instead are we supposed to manually delete a file buried in a remote subdirectory that is not even visible? Appdata is hidden by default in Windows installations.

The beta testing and bug fixing are proceeding at excruciatingly slow pace compared to FS2020, with enormous regressions in terms of performance: SU1>>SU2>SU3 beta. SU2 and SU3 have brought back the CPU bottlenecks and the stuttering that were considered history a few months ago. Do you all remember those enthusiastic threads and videos about the better performance of FS2024 compared to MSFS? They are still in the forums, if you need a refresh... and the improvements were real.

I find certain posts amusing by the way, now we have another prescription in the vein of "it's your fault for doing that": don't use the Barcelona airport.

So we have:

  • Don't use ATC
  • Don't use AI traffic
  • Don't use Real traffic
  • Don't use the Flight planner: it still doesn't have performance data and is unable to provide fuel estimations after how many months from launch? Six? Abandonware
  • Don't use photogrammetry
  • Don't use damage simulation: terrain elevation is a mess in many airports and you will crash on the taxiways. Sadly, planes are not very good at climbing stairs. Also, pushback often pushes the plane against buildings or other parked aircraft so...
  • Don't use pushback
  • Don't use Career mode
  • Don't use Fauna
  • Don't use Dynamic settings
  • Don't consider Asobo hardware recommendations
  • Don't use LEBL
  • ...

I see your point @MrFuzzy, and I can't criticise you, but actually my experience with FS 2024 has been rather positive since:

.) I started using only default Ground Ops, ATC and AI Traffic;

.) Default weather with the aid of RealTurb, sometimes custom weather presets for soaring, or even ASFS for tricky weather scenarios;

.) Default aircraft as much as possible, mostly the airliners, together with the few addons I have on that class: PMDG 777, FSLabs 321, Fenix 320, iFly 737 MAX-8...

FS 2024 has even brought me to Soaring, and I have invested in a few payware gliders, and am using some really nice freebies for planning and navigation. Weather is not what we have in the dedicated Condorsoaring 3 weather model, but it is still very acceptable, and the quality of the senery is so great that I am sold to soaring in FS 2024.

Ah! I am glad I disabled Photogrammetry. I really like the default "autogen" objects. they're more than enough for my needs.

In a very personal thought that I can share with you guys, I really think that MS / ASOBO / ... should go for a standalone - full standalone ! - platform.

MS in order to get the required profit from MSFS has to sell a lot more than just the 3 or 4 options we can buy the simulator. They should close the platform in terms of 3rd parties, partner with a few selected developers, and use their apparently HUGE team to concentrate in default aircraft of even better quality than those available.

A Marketplace to sell their offers, but all of it being MS sourced **only**

Am I being extremist? Maybe... probably a sign of the times....

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59 minutes ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

Appdata is hidden by default in Windows installations.

I simply created a shortcut to the MSFS folder and dropped it on my desktop

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1 hour ago, MrFuzzy said:

Deleting the rolling cache is another snake oil "fix" in my opinion. I never saw any benefit in it. If that really worked, I believe that Asobo would have implemented a system to flush it every now and then, instead are we supposed to manually delete a file buried in a remote subdirectory that is not even visible? Appdata is hidden by default in Windows installations.

Not going to debate the efficacy of deleting rolling cache, but if you can’t locate it, then I highly suggest staying far away from Betas. You can literally put it anywhere you want, including on your Desktop, through the Settings within the Sim.

And the only major issue I’m having with the Beta are Gaya airports. Whether it be EGLL or TNCM, they completely wreck otherwise great performance. 

Edited by Gulf76

Sounds like some people don't know how to use a computer. 

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