5 hours ago, guenseli said:

It's not about the release notes

(however they are too short looking at all the bugs that sim has) 

 

It's about the interaction from Asobo /Microsoft with us. I await that there is probably some longer text/statement what problems they face, what they are currently working on, IF they are even really aware of the arrival stutters etc. If there is any idea what could be the culprit, and so on. 

 

And give us then just one sentence which says nothing in the end, fits in my negative picture I have meanwhile unfortunately. 

Out of curiosity, you tune into the Twitch Q&As, right?

5 hours ago, SeedyL said:

If you are looking for information about other things the dev team is working on, I suggest tuning in to our regular Developer Livestreams on Twitch

SeedyL, not everyone has 90+ minutes time to listen/watch the developer stream. Not a lack of interest, but just life in general. Maybe there is a way, with the help of AI or otherwise to post a summary the after a stream. The summary in the weekly developer update is too sparse, I find.

In general it is really hard to keep up with the latest information/insides that the community managers post. It is all over the forum, cluttered in different posts. Yes, it is there, but hard to find for a person that has limited time to hunt down information.

No fix to the long/infinite loading times in Free Flight?

Long loading/infinite time for free flight after pressing "Start flight" - LOD reduce as workaround - Bug Reporting Hub / Install, Performance & Graphics - Microsoft Flight Simulator Forums

Hate having to turn terrain LOD down to 10 before even starting a flight in Free Flight, maybe this will be resolved in SU4 so the workaround will no longer be needed.

16 minutes ago, Silicuss said:

SeedyL, not everyone has 90+ minutes time to listen/watch the developer stream. Not a lack of interest, but just life in general. Maybe there is a way, with the help of AI or otherwise to post a summary the after a stream. The summary in the weekly developer update is too sparse, I find.

In general it is really hard to keep up with the latest information/insides that the community managers post. It is all over the forum, cluttered in different posts. Yes, it is there, but hard to find for a person that has limited time to hunt down information.

They do a written transcript of the Twitch Q&As. Check the official MSFS forum, about 1 week after the Twitch Q&A. Here are some examples:

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/tags/c/official/news-and-announcements/141/dev-stream-recap

Oddly enough, I don’t see the transcripts for the 2025 Twitch Q&As. But you can see the transcripts there for previous years.

Edited July 17, 2025Jul 17 by abrams_tank

What is a 'back end fix' out of interest?

7 hours ago, SeedyL said:

Hello guenseli,

Today's pre-release test build is relatively small and thus it doesn't contain a lengthy list of changes. However, if you look at all the release notes from every SU3 beta build so far (from my previous link above), you'll see that the total number of changes in SU3 is quite extensive.

As for your comment about stutters on arrival, that issue has the #bug-logged tag on the official forums which means we have entered it into our internal tracking tool and the devs have confirmed that it is, indeed, a valid bug. You can find the discussion thread for this issue on the official forums here:

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/horrible-stuttering-fps-drops-at-airports-during-landing-beta-2-1-4-14-0/717741

If you are looking for information about other things the dev team is working on, I suggest tuning in to our regular Developer Livestreams on Twitch (with the VODs subsequently posted to YouTube). The panel of Jorg, Seb, and Martial address many questions from the community, discuss the development roadmap, and reveal other future updates coming to the sim. As announced in our regular weekly Development Update blog (published on our website every Thursday), the next Developer Livestream is next week: July 23, 2025. 

Thanks,

SeedyL, MSFS Community Manager

 

Thanks for taking the time to get back to me ...

Last Livestream is from 2 month ago, right?

In this stream I haven't found any information regarding the occuring stutters.
Something introduced with SU2beta, discovered during SU2 Beta, released anyway.

Since then - other then "bug logged" we do not get any information about. 

 

I know, we handle with a big company here and I do not expect to discuss with Jörg personally in the forums.
But if you would like a hint what could be useful for the community, then please talk to us!
Explain, why many of us have these issues since many month now.
Is development on a kind of track to fixing it?
Will it be fixed with SU3 or released again anyway?
And all this with more then one sentence.
 

Edited July 17, 2025Jul 17 by guenseli

2 hours ago, abrams_tank said:

They do a written transcript of the Twitch Q&As. Check the official MSFS forum, about 1 week after the Twitch Q&A. Here are some examples:

Yap, I know about the transcripts, but they are as long as stream.... Just a one or two page summary would be great!

getting back on topic, SU3 .17 continues to work perfect here. Just took the Fenix from ENGM to EKCH, wheather was great in terms of cloudy and overcast at EKCH, the plane was nicely swaying in the wind, correcting some wind shifts. all smooth. we can continue like that, please

9 hours ago, SeedyL said:

Hello guenseli,

Today's pre-release test build is relatively small and thus it doesn't contain a lengthy list of changes. However, if you look at all the release notes from every SU3 beta build so far (from my previous link above), you'll see that the total number of changes in SU3 is quite extensive.

As for your comment about stutters on arrival, that issue has the #bug-logged tag on the official forums which means we have entered it into our internal tracking tool and the devs have confirmed that it is, indeed, a valid bug. You can find the discussion thread for this issue on the official forums here:

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/horrible-stuttering-fps-drops-at-airports-during-landing-beta-2-1-4-14-0/717741

If you are looking for information about other things the dev team is working on, I suggest tuning in to our regular Developer Livestreams on Twitch (with the VODs subsequently posted to YouTube). The panel of Jorg, Seb, and Martial address many questions from the community, discuss the development roadmap, and reveal other future updates coming to the sim. As announced in our regular weekly Development Update blog (published on our website every Thursday), the next Developer Livestream is next week: July 23, 2025. 

Thanks,

SeedyL, MSFS Community Manager

Very nice to see you post over here, Seedy.

I, for one, can't wait for these stutters to be fixed!

2 hours ago, jarmstro said:

What is a 'back end fix' out of interest?

In a generic way, it is about a fix that is located in the part of the program that you do not see or access directly (contrary to "front-end").

Typically, it means it's a fix that has been applied on their end, on the servers, something that was changed without needing any update/patch for the files on your computer.

Edited July 17, 2025Jul 17 by Daube

I don't know what they fixed / updated, but 1.5.17.0 still has that CTD leaving LEBL 😞

"General Bug Fixes

Various back-end updates; no user-facing changes."

You see, this is what people are on about.  That information is about as much use as nothing.  How do us beta testers know what to look for?

27 minutes ago, bobcat999 said:

"General Bug Fixes

Various back-end updates; no user-facing changes."

You see, this is what people are on about.  That information is about as much use as nothing.  How do us beta testers know what to look for?

Sometimes it's about passive testing. In other words not specific issues but rather feedback on performance, stability, etc. I would assume they want to know if there are increased reports of CTDs or connection losses, things like that off the back of these back-end changes. 

Has anyone noticed ground textures being nerfed at all?  Just flew into Antalya and the distant mountains looked like absolute mush, which they did a few months ago.  

2 hours ago, jcomm said:

still has that CTD leaving LEBL

literally leave LEBL then and pick another airport 😁