October 21, 2025Oct 21 Author Commercial Member 4 hours ago, Bjoern said: Yes, sir! Understood, sir! No more fun and fraternization, sir! Back to the trenches, sir! [Shouting east into no-mans land] Hey, ortho fetishists! Streaming satellite scenery SUCKS! [Shouting south into no-man's land] Hey Laminar, your default scenery looks worse than your dog's behinds! Get back to work yer lazy gits! ... ... Uh oh...INCOMI- 😄 Current system: ASUS PRIME Z690-P D4, Intel 12900k, 32GB RAM @ 3600mhz, Zotac RTX 3090 Trinity, M2 SSD, Oculus Quest 2.
October 24, 2025Oct 24 Streaming Ortho for IFR is great and useful, but for VFR and below, I hope also to see.... next level 3d object detail where renditions are based accurate OSM detail and features, richer landclass that drives 3d rendered features (trees, grass, roads, etc) Roads that are correctly positioned and surfaced correctly ...and of course a more current 3d object database that takes into account more types of traffic and automation. improved water class and colors as influenced by weather. Edited October 24, 2025Oct 24 by rparson99
October 24, 2025Oct 24 3 hours ago, rparson99 said: next level 3d object detail where renditions are based accurate OSM detail and features, richer landclass that drives 3d rendered features (trees, grass, roads, etc) Roads that are correctly positioned and surfaced correctly If such information is not available in OpenStreetMap or any other database of the world that Laminar is granted access to, this will be impossible to implement. Edited October 24, 2025Oct 24 by Bjoern 7950X3D + 7900 XT + 64 GB + Linux | 4800H + RTX2060 + 32 GB + Linux My add-ons from my FS9/FSX days
October 24, 2025Oct 24 Or perhaps LR may introduce AI or similar for adapting on the go the land classes to OSM data? Alexander Colka
October 28, 2025Oct 28 Another thing they could do, is build a tool similar to the world editor, that enables the community to submit world class data in the form of raster, I mean we did such a good job on the airport database! AME GE90, GP7200 CFM56
October 29, 2025Oct 29 Author Commercial Member So, I was flying Aerofly FS 4 last night, in VR of course, to remind myself how perfect VR impementation is, and honestly, the feel of flight and how good the feel of air is. It beats both MSFS and X-Plane in these terms, easily. But I didn't mention it because of that, new Global scenery ortho streaming option is the reason. So, how IPACS implemented ortho streaming option in the sim, legally? There must be a catch surely. If Austin and generally LM say they can't implement it for "obvious" reasons, so how a extremely small company like IPACS can? Their ortho is low res, yes, doesn't look good below 10-20k feet (depending where you fly, California is by far the sharpest), but still getting a license to stream ortho textures in the sim is just brilliant and a huge plus nevertheless, especially for airliner pilots. What is the catch? Edited October 29, 2025Oct 29 by Pe11e Current system: ASUS PRIME Z690-P D4, Intel 12900k, 32GB RAM @ 3600mhz, Zotac RTX 3090 Trinity, M2 SSD, Oculus Quest 2.
October 29, 2025Oct 29 Commercial Member 11 hours ago, Pe11e said: So, I was flying Aerofly FS 4 last night, in VR of course, to remind myself how perfect VR impementation is, and honestly, the feel of flight and how good the feel of air is. It beats both MSFS and X-Plane in these terms, easily. But I didn't mention it because of that, new Global scenery ortho streaming option is the reason. So, how IPACS implemented ortho streaming option in the sim, legally? There must be a catch surely. If Austin and generally LM say they can't implement it for "obvious" reasons, so how a extremely small company like IPACS can? Their ortho is low res, yes, doesn't look good below 10-20k feet (depending where you fly, California is by far the sharpest), but still getting a license to stream ortho textures in the sim is just brilliant and a huge plus nevertheless, especially for airliner pilots. What is the catch? Lets break it down... The desktop version of Aerofly is available on steam. The Ortho is made either by freely accessible satellite orthos (which cover the low resolution part)... which likely get streamed. Or you can get HD packs which are installed via Steam (not streamed but a physical footprint). The distribution network being Steam, you don't get the charges of a server. 80GB isn't enough for ZL16/17 for the entire US (Quoting Steams installtion requirements) The mobile version charges $3.99 per month for global scenery So the tldr here is this... - Getting sources to stream ortho isn't hard - Getting sources to stream ortho for free or really cheap... is still really hard. Someone is going to have to pay something, unless you own the mapping software and you can shuffle the income steam to somewhere else. - You can't avoid the distribution. Either you are handling it, or someone else is. - Ortho/Geo-Spatial Imagery is still... seldom free unless you are using governmental incentivised resources. - Roses are red - The Sky is blue - Thanks for coming to my TED talk for you 🙂 Community Management for Laminar Research
October 30, 2025Oct 30 Author Commercial Member 12 hours ago, DeltaWho said: Lets break it down... The desktop version of Aerofly is available on steam. The Ortho is made either by freely accessible satellite orthos (which cover the low resolution part)... which likely get streamed. Or you can get HD packs which are installed via Steam (not streamed but a physical footprint). The distribution network being Steam, you don't get the charges of a server. 80GB isn't enough for ZL16/17 for the entire US (Quoting Steams installtion requirements) The mobile version charges $3.99 per month for global scenery So the tldr here is this... - Getting sources to stream ortho isn't hard - Getting sources to stream ortho for free or really cheap... is still really hard. Someone is going to have to pay something, unless you own the mapping software and you can shuffle the income steam to somewhere else. - You can't avoid the distribution. Either you are handling it, or someone else is. - Ortho/Geo-Spatial Imagery is still... seldom free unless you are using governmental incentivised resources. - Roses are red - The Sky is blue - Thanks for coming to my TED talk for you 🙂 Thank you for the explanation, makes sense. But, I simply can't avoid the question - did you guys ever thought about providing an optional default ortho scenery subscription service? Bunch of us already pay 5$ to have HD ortho via XPlane Map Enhancement app, so I would gladly pay LM 5$ monthly for a proper scenery, instead to a random guy that did an app that is already under a legal question mark. Yes, it's a risk to setup the server with all the expenses, but who knows, maybe LM will earn twice the investment. Edited October 30, 2025Oct 30 by Pe11e Current system: ASUS PRIME Z690-P D4, Intel 12900k, 32GB RAM @ 3600mhz, Zotac RTX 3090 Trinity, M2 SSD, Oculus Quest 2.
October 30, 2025Oct 30 Commercial Member 11 hours ago, Pe11e said: Thank you for the explanation, makes sense. But, I simply can't avoid the question - did you guys ever thought about providing an optional default ortho scenery subscription service? Bunch of us already pay 5$ to have HD ortho via XPlane Map Enhancement app, so I would gladly pay LM 5$ monthly for a proper scenery, instead to a random guy that did an app that is already under a legal question mark. Yes, it's a risk to setup the server with all the expenses, but who knows, maybe LM will earn twice the investment. You can't avoid the question, but I can 🙂 (Sorry but that's a question too far into the private.) When we're ready to announce scenery details, we'll do so on our time. All you need to know is that next-gen scenery is in development, with a focus on updating the underlying core architecture to be friendly to modern, formats of scenery creation. It will be flexible for all types of creations. Ben has already touched on some of this in his developer blog posts. Community Management for Laminar Research
October 30, 2025Oct 30 54 minutes ago, DeltaWho said: You can't avoid the question, but I can 🙂 (Sorry but that's a question too far into the private.) When we're ready to announce scenery details, we'll do so on our time. All you need to know is that next-gen scenery is in development, with a focus on updating the underlying core architecture to be friendly to modern, formats of scenery creation. It will be flexible for all types of creations. Ben has already touched on some of this in his developer blog posts. Okok, just make sure LPMN and surrounding areas look AMAZINGLY REALISTIC!!! The test can Stay as is... Surrounding areas within, say... a 1000nm radius... Flying gliders since 1980 Flightsimming since 1992 AMD Ryzen 5600x, 32GB RAM, GPU Nvidia RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB, 1 TB and 500 GB nvme2 SSD drives, HP 27" 60Hz LED monitor @ 1920x1080, T16000, Hotas from old X52 Pro, Saitek Combat Rudder Pro (2010 model)
October 30, 2025Oct 30 16 hours ago, Pe11e said: Thank you for the explanation, makes sense. But, I simply can't avoid the question - did you guys ever thought about providing an optional default ortho scenery subscription service? Bunch of us already pay 5$ to have HD ortho via XPlane Map Enhancement app, so I would gladly pay LM 5$ monthly for a proper scenery, instead to a random guy that did an app that is already under a legal question mark. Yes, it's a risk to setup the server with all the expenses, but who knows, maybe LM will earn twice the investment. Don’t let blingthinger see you thinking outside the box - he gets rather testy!!! 😂
October 30, 2025Oct 30 4 hours ago, DeltaWho said: a focus on updating the underlying core architecture to be friendly to modern, formats of scenery creation. It will be flexible for all types of creations. Oooh - that sounds rather enticing 😁 OTOH, it also sounds like we’ll still need 3PD scenery solutions. hopefully the default will turn out well enough to encourage geo exploring without scenery enhancements? and I’ll say it again, if I HAVE to pay extra for great scenery, I’d much rather pay it TO Laminar Research, or at least THROUGH the pending XP Market Place. then I’d know that at least some of that money i spend goes directly to improving the sim itself. 👍 Edited October 30, 2025Oct 30 by UrgentSiesta
October 30, 2025Oct 30 Commercial Member 3 hours ago, jcomm said: Okok, just make sure LPMN and surrounding areas look AMAZINGLY REALISTIC!!! The test can Stay as is... Surrounding areas within, say... a 1000nm radius... Instructions unclear... fill LPMN with ducks Community Management for Laminar Research
October 30, 2025Oct 30 38 minutes ago, DeltaWho said: Instructions unclear... fill LPMN with ducks 😁 Flying gliders since 1980 Flightsimming since 1992 AMD Ryzen 5600x, 32GB RAM, GPU Nvidia RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB, 1 TB and 500 GB nvme2 SSD drives, HP 27" 60Hz LED monitor @ 1920x1080, T16000, Hotas from old X52 Pro, Saitek Combat Rudder Pro (2010 model)
October 30, 2025Oct 30 1 hour ago, DeltaWho said: Instructions unclear... fill LPMN with ducks I will pay a subscription fee if you implement this. 9800X3d, 4090, 64 GB DDR5 6000 RAM, 4 TB NVME (2x2), 4K Ultra + Framegen
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