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Edited December 1, 2025Dec 1 by MaGer1965

That's going to make @ryanbatc very happy!

I'm a VFR only simmer and I'm getting very old with all these videos that could be wrap-up in 3 text paragraphs😉 Did someone find a kind of timeline with some dates somewhere? I'm not looking for a detailed planning. I know no dev is able to commit but are we talking of Q1 or Q4? 😉

 

Edited December 1, 2025Dec 1 by vbazillio

3 minutes ago, vbazillio said:

I'm getting very old with all these videos that could be wrap-up in 3 text paragraphs

Me too. Modern times. 🙄 

But in this case it's rather a pp presentation. No dates given. A roadmap. Scroll through the slides...😉

13 minutes ago, MaGer1965 said:

Scroll through the slides...😉

Typos included 😉

VFR Overview

Slide #1: "Work on VFR will not detract from effort on the rest of the program"

Slide #2: "VFR will come in phases similar to CPDLC"

Slide #3: "Airport outward phases: circuts, control zones and... bringing it all together"

Slide #4: "Ahereance to open development: faster feedback loop with less waiting between phases"

Slide #5: initil VFR Regions: US, UK and AUS

Slide #6: more regions to come in future.

VFR Stage 1: Clerance request, enter/exit circuts, full stops, touch & Gos

VFR Stage 2: Airspace classes, airspaces rules, enter/exit airspaces, extended FIRs, vertical FIRs

VFR Stage 3: VFR unification, full VFR Flights.

Conclusion: VFR won't launch feature complete in accordance with our Early Access development model.

Edited December 1, 2025Dec 1 by vbazillio

28 minutes ago, vbazillio said:

Typos included 😉

VFR Overview

Slide #1: "Work on VFR will not detract from effort on the rest of the program"

Slide #2: "VFR will come in phases similar to CPDLC"

Slide #3: "Airport outward phases: circuts, control zones and... bringing it all together"

Slide #4: "Ahereance to open development: faster feedback loop with less waiting between phases"

Slide #5: initil VFR Regions: US, UK and AUS

Slide #6: more regions to come in future.

VFR Stage 1: Clerance request, enter/exit circuts, full stops, touch & Gos

VFR Stage 2: Airspace classes, airspaces rules, enter/exit airspaces, extended FIRs, vertical FIRs

VFR Stage 3: VFR unification, full VFR Flights.

Conclusion: VFR won't launch feature complete in accordance with our Early Access development model.

Many thanks for taking the time to do this. 

Will this VFR be region specific as the way VFR works with ATC differs around the world?  For instance in Australia you need a clearance to enter controlled airspace but apart from that are largely on your own.

EDIT OK I see from two posts  above that this will be covered.

Bruce

Edited December 1, 2025Dec 1 by brucewtb

1 hour ago, thepilot said:

That's going to make @ryanbatc very happy!

I'm interested.  I updated BATC once a month to see if things improve hehe.

Imo they have a lot of work to do for GA IFR flights.  Seems like they don't feel the same lol.

12 minutes ago, ryanbatc said:

I'm interested.  I updated BATC once a month to see if things improve hehe.

Imo they have a lot of work to do for GA IFR flights.  Seems like they don't feel the same lol.

I just got back into using BATC and I agree with you completely. IFR flights really go off the rails every time when I get to descent and approach (and not only for GA, in my experience). I'm not particularly upset by it as I know they're developing still, but it makes me wonder if they'll be able to pull off the level of accuracy they're likely hoping for.

Ive been using SI a lot more than BATC lately. Honestly SI seems like they’re really working hard at making it great. 

9 hours ago, fakeflyer737 said:

Ive been using SI a lot more than BATC lately. Honestly SI seems like they’re really working hard at making it great. 

They sure have a long way to go.

 

They do not even recognize EASA Phraseology at this time, or clear multiple aircraft to land, as if everywhere would do it like it's done in FAA land.

20 hours ago, fakeflyer737 said:

Ive been using SI a lot more than BATC lately. Honestly SI seems like they’re really working hard at making it great. 

I've definitely wanted to try it but they're like voice only right?  I can't use my keyboard to respond?

13 minutes ago, ryanbatc said:

I've definitely wanted to try it but they're like voice only right?  I can't use my keyboard to respond?

You can type, but you don't have shortcuts. 

So you have to write your complete request.

21 minutes ago, Farlis said:

You can type, but you don't have shortcuts. 

So you have to write your complete request.

Ah ok.. worth a try still I suppose.

On 12/1/2025 at 4:24 PM, brucewtb said:

 For instance in Australia you need a clearance to enter controlled airspace but apart from that are largely on your own.

I think Flight Following is a USA-thing, or I think it mostly is/is less common elsewhere...does Australia not have VFR flight following?