Completely unflyable with my set-up in 2k and 110 TLOD on the ground. I'm getting message that your resources are close to expire a second after loading the plane into the sim.

Not ready yet to spend $3k on 5090. 

Completely unflyable for me at 1080P with 100 TLOD with DLSS or FSR, flight loads in but the start flights button is not appearing.

My Lenovo Legion 5 15IRX9 system’s GPU is an 8GB mobile RTX 4060 and RAM is 32GB, processor is an Intel Core i9-14900HX.

Monitor is a Lenovo Legion R24S https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/solutions/pd500803-lenovo-legion-r24s-overview.

However, the A321neo appears to be flyable when I turn off DLSS/FSR and just have AA set to TAA and TLOD at 10 on start, then changing to 100 TLOD when loaded in and in cockpit view-again, only on TAA, still unflyable if DLSS or FSR is turned back on.

Edited February 6Feb 6 by amsfsx02501

6 hours ago, MaximumN2 said:

Aha, and why? Its a different plane, or do you really expect a discount from your beloved and overhyped Fenix when they release the Neos? They will ask for full price as well. Weird take, to be honest.

You think no code, model or textures from the A321 ceo are used in the neo?

3 hours ago, G-YMML1 said:

Completely unflyable with my set-up in 2k and 110 TLOD on the ground. I'm getting message that your resources are close to expire a second after loading the plane into the sim.

Not ready yet to spend $3k on 5090. 

yup same with me.  vram hitting 14 and a bit.  still not properly optimised.  

I get the VRAM message when doing a spot view of it.  

my 5070ti also has 16 gigs so fly that into ini lgw or sofly brs with some vatsim ai traffic and its going to max out the vram easily.

back to fenix....still dont worry someone will be along in a bit to tell us how great it is.

 

Edited February 6Feb 6 by fluffyflops

Despite me saying I will wait for the Fenix Neo I decided to give this a try mostly out of curiosity and wanting to do SEA-DFW in a Neo for my next flight in the sim.  Like anything new it took a bit of tinkering to figure out but finely got mostly set up now.

Performance on my system is okay despite it being lower mid level these days.  I can tell its being taxed with this model but its totally playable.  2070 Super running 2K.  

I did a quick circuit around Mt Rainier and it flew nice.  Felt a bit overpowered but maybe I forgot a step when loading the payload.  

Obviously the Fenix model has more detail but the FSL model is not half bad.  From what I have heard on the web I was expecting much worse.  Its totally useable and enjoyable.

The EFB on the Fenix and its interface is much better over FSL.  However you can set payload in the FMC which is something I prefer to do ever since PMDG made me do it back in the day.  

Overall it's okay and I don't regret the purchase.  I will still pick up the Fenix Neo day one and I hope that is a bit sooner rather than way later.

One question for an FSL newbie is getting the PW version?  I think i found it and you can log in and find it there.  However it says don't log on here unless you are instructed to do so by tech support.  It confused me before I finished for the night.  Curious why they did not make it easier to get?  Still in beta?  

 

 

28 minutes ago, longhaul747 said:

Despite me saying I will wait for the Fenix Neo I decided to give this a try mostly out of curiosity and wanting to do SEA-DFW in a Neo for my next flight in the sim.  Like anything new it took a bit of tinkering to figure out but finely got mostly set up now.

Performance on my system is okay despite it being lower mid level these days.  I can tell its being taxed with this model but its totally playable.  2070 Super running 2K.  

I did a quick circuit around Mt Rainier and it flew nice.  Felt a bit overpowered but maybe I forgot a step when loading the payload.  

Obviously the Fenix model has more detail but the FSL model is not half bad.  From what I have heard on the web I was expecting much worse.  Its totally useable and enjoyable.

The EFB on the Fenix and its interface is much better over FSL.  However you can set payload in the FMC which is something I prefer to do ever since PMDG made me do it back in the day.  

Overall it's okay and I don't regret the purchase.  I will still pick up the Fenix Neo day one and I hope that is a bit sooner rather than way later.

One question for an FSL newbie is getting the PW version?  I think i found it and you can log in and find it there.  However it says don't log on here unless you are instructed to do so by tech support.  It confused me before I finished for the night.  Curious why they did not make it easier to get?  Still in beta?  

 

"Go to "Settings", then on the right-hand side, where it says "Channel Selection", use the drop-down box to switch from "Public" to "Experimental" and vice-versa. Be sure to "Save All Settings" when you do.

When you switch to a different channel, and after you have "Saved All Settings", exit Control Center and restart it for the changes to take place. It's possible you will be asked to update Control Center when restarting it, especially when going into Experimental.

Once you have successfully changed channels and restarted Control Center, you will be presented with the product versions for that channel upon restart."

29 minutes ago, longhaul747 said:

Despite me saying I will wait for the Fenix Neo I decided to give this a try mostly out of curiosity and wanting to do SEA-DFW in a Neo for my next flight in the sim.  Like anything new it took a bit of tinkering to figure out but finely got mostly set up now.

Performance on my system is okay despite it being lower mid level these days.  I can tell its being taxed with this model but its totally playable.  2070 Super running 2K.  

I did a quick circuit around Mt Rainier and it flew nice.  Felt a bit overpowered but maybe I forgot a step when loading the payload.  

Obviously the Fenix model has more detail but the FSL model is not half bad.  From what I have heard on the web I was expecting much worse.  Its totally useable and enjoyable.

The EFB on the Fenix and its interface is much better over FSL.  However you can set payload in the FMC which is something I prefer to do ever since PMDG made me do it back in the day.  

Overall it's okay and I don't regret the purchase.  I will still pick up the Fenix Neo day one and I hope that is a bit sooner rather than way later.

One question for an FSL newbie is getting the PW version?  I think i found it and you can log in and find it there.  However it says don't log on here unless you are instructed to do so by tech support.  It confused me before I finished for the night.  Curious why they did not make it easier to get?  Still in beta?  

 

You can also set the payload in the FMC in the Fenix FYI.

Well so after gathering many first reviews in all kind of places, the consensus seems to be that the FSL A321neo is still horrible on performance, much worse than the A350, especially in regards to VRAM usage, and borderline unflyable at certain airports no matter the system. That's not acceptable for an aircraft that looks worse than most competitors.
I would swallow the sub-optimal visuals for system depth, but I absolutely won't go back to P3D times with its 20 FPS unavoidable in some situations.

29 minutes ago, Fiorentoni said:

Well so after gathering many first reviews in all kind of places, the consensus seems to be that the FSL A321neo is still horrible on performance, much worse than the A350, especially in regards to VRAM usage, and borderline unflyable at certain airports no matter the system. That's not acceptable for an aircraft that looks worse than most competitors.
I would swallow the sub-optimal visuals for system depth, but I absolutely won't go back to P3D times with its 20 FPS unavoidable in some situations.

Well I have 80 till 120 fps with pretty high settings on my RTX4048S, so I must do something wrong and performance is far better then the Fenix...
As for the graphics bandwagon I actually thinks it looks great.  tested with SAI and BATC... Currently using BATC... 
Have at AMS around 90-100 fps with BATC and Rex Atmos. Also running Mobiflight 🥰 So fun to compare with a type rated Captain (my son ) and to enjoy all those little details... 

Edited February 6Feb 6 by virtualstuff

17 minutes ago, Fiorentoni said:

Well so after gathering many first reviews in all kind of places, the consensus seems to be that the FSL A321neo is still horrible on performance, much worse than the A350, especially in regards to VRAM usage, and borderline unflyable at certain airports no matter the system. That's not acceptable for an aircraft that looks worse than most competitors.
I would swallow the sub-optimal visuals for system depth, but I absolutely won't go back to P3D times with its 20 FPS unavoidable in some situations.

Weird as I have better performance in this than the Fenix. I honestly believe that dialing settings back solves 99.9999% of problems with 2024 regardless of which addon you use but people don't want to hear that as they strive for visual quality over anything else then complain when it costs them elsewhere.

Edited February 6Feb 6 by FPVSteve

17 hours ago, G-YMML1 said:

....and the exterior model hasn't been changed? 

Changed too lot of changes... 

1 hour ago, longhaul747 said:

The EFB on the Fenix and its interface is much better over FSL.  However you can set payload in the FMC which is something I prefer to do ever since PMDG made me do it back in the day.  

Overall it's okay and I don't regret the purchase.  I will still pick up the Fenix Neo day one and I hope that is a bit sooner rather than way later.

One question for an FSL newbie is getting the PW version?  I think i found it and you can log in and find it there.  However it says don't log on here unless you are instructed to do so by tech support.  It confused me before I finished for the night.  Curious why they did not make it easier to get?  Still in beta?  

 

You have to go to the FSL control center choose the paint bucket on the left, there you choose your model and then the engine type you prefer and install the livery of your choice. 

i5 processor 5070ti … flys great and runs very well on my system… and that’s in VR too…. No problem 👍

Edited February 6Feb 6 by Captaintull

4 hours ago, virtualstuff said:

Well I have 80 till 120 fps with pretty high settings on my RTX4048S, so I must do something wrong and performance is far better then the Fenix...
As for the graphics bandwagon I actually thinks it looks great.  tested with SAI and BATC... Currently using BATC... 
Have at AMS around 90-100 fps with BATC and Rex Atmos. Also running Mobiflight 🥰 So fun to compare with a type rated Captain (my son ) and to enjoy all those little details... 

It's not about FPS, rather about VRAM usage. What are your TLOD, Texture settings, Object Details, Shadows, Traffic...too many aspects? With Fenix and PMDG I'm flying at Ultra, with exception of TLOD/OLOD that I control via AutoFPS (the best performance add-one for MSFS). With FSL in MSFS2024 I cannot make a move with similar settings. 

16 hours ago, carlanthony24 said:

Chewwy94 was struggling with the FSLabs performance. Certainly wasn't happy about it.

TBH, i watched a bit few of his streams, he's struggling with performance with almost every addon. 

Not once i saw a stream that was smooth on performance. Be it Fenix, PMDG, E-jets etc...