May 2May 2 Just an afterthought - A year or two back my PSU was on its last legs and getting mightly hot. This was causing a massive heat build up inside the case making both CPU and GPU run hotter as a result. May be worth just putting your hand on your PSU and see if the same thing is happening - Just a long shot, I know, but worth checking. Nobody else is reporting an issue since SU5, so I think you can safely discount that and so I don't think you are going to gain anything from a reinstall (though strange things can happen with computers and flight simulators, I know) Ryzen 5800X3D, Nvidia RTX5080 - 32 Gig DDR4 RAM, 1TB & 2 TB NVME drives - Windows 11 64 bit MSFS 2024 Premium Deluxe Edition Resolution 2560 x 1440 (32 inch curved monitor)
May 2May 2 Author Thanks, but all seems to be fine temps-wise with the desktop. And wouldn't be a sheer coincidence if the day before updating to SU5 all was fine and right after the time I fired up FS2024 and SU5 all went haywire? Good thinking, though, but fortunately it is not the PSU that is acting up here. I exclusively use the Fenix aircraft so I for once tried one of the stock airbuses to eliminate the idea that it might be the Fenix aircraft that are to blame. No cigar, also the stock A320 is cooking 🙂 There is another user in this very thread who also is experiencing these high temperatures. Anyway, I will reinstall FS2024 as soon as I know how to do so without having to sit and wait for hours to see the installation running. Kind regards, Hans van WIjhe Acer Predator P03-640 2.10 Ghz Intel 12th Gen Core 17-12700F 64GB memory, Noctua NH-U9S Cooler, 1.02 TB SSD HD, 1.02 TB HD, NVidia Geforce RTX 3070 16GB Memory, Windows 11 (x64)
May 2May 2 As far as I remember from the last Developer Stream they said that previously they saw user complaints that the GPU has so little to do and the main thread gets hammered. So the goal was to even things out and make more use of the GPU's power. I'd say it running hotter follows this. If the GPU no longer sits below 50% it will run hotter.
May 2May 2 Author Just now, Farlis said: As far as I remember from the last Developer Stream they said that previously they saw user complaints that the GPU has so little to do and the main thread gets hammered. So the goal was to even things out and make more use of the GPU's power. I'd say it running hotter follows this. If the GPU no longer sits below 50% it will run hotter. Yes, I understand, but going as hot as almost blowing up the GPU is a bit too much. In the meantime I saw in the Discord channel of Fenix that more users are running into this problem. Kind regards, Hans van WIjhe Acer Predator P03-640 2.10 Ghz Intel 12th Gen Core 17-12700F 64GB memory, Noctua NH-U9S Cooler, 1.02 TB SSD HD, 1.02 TB HD, NVidia Geforce RTX 3070 16GB Memory, Windows 11 (x64)
May 2May 2 1 hour ago, hvw said: Yes, I understand, but going as hot as almost blowing up the GPU is a bit too much. But that's the thing - an application should be able to use every last bit of performance the GPU has to give without the GPU overheating. You paid for the whole GPU, so you should be able to use the whole GPU. Maybe another point: You're saying it's "almost blowing up the GPU", but as long as the temperature is within limits, we'll, it's within limits. It's really just an indication that you're running your GPU hard, but not too hard. A lot of the focus in SU5 was on performance, so it's not surprising to me that some people are seeing MSFS utilize their GPU better and, hence, running it hotter.
May 2May 2 5 hours ago, Lange_666 said: Dealing with the same thing. CPU "AND" GPU run quite a bit hotter than pre SU5 and this with the same settings. Noticed it by the sound of my ventilators which went up, only then I checked temps which confirmed why. Running a 3080Ti with updated thermal pads. A year or 2 ago same thing happened in DCS, after an update things ran hotter, needed to wait for another update to go back to normal (or what it was before). Checked DCS after running a hotter SU5 flight and there the temps where as before so it's certainly not the PC. I just quote myself so people who think all of a sudden the PC or PSU or whatever it the problem can read it again. The above says it's not because if it was the same would apply to running DCS also. Win11 Pro 64-bit, Ryzen 5800X3D, Corsair H115i, Gigabyte X570S UD, EVGA 3080Ti XC3 Ultra 12GB, 64 GB DDR4 G.Skill 3600. Monitors: LG 27GL850-B27 2560x1440 + Samsung SyncMaster 2443 1920x1200, HOTAS: Warthog with Virpil WarBRD base & hegykc MFG Crosswind modded pedals, TrackIR4, Rift-S for VR
May 2May 2 If the problem came from SU5, logic would dictate that all users who use the same addons as you would be affected by this problem, but that’s not the case, so it’s a problem that isn’t directly related to SU5. Did you try anything other than the Fenix and were able to reproduce your temperature problem? Guillaume ASUS ROG STRIX X870 ▪︎ AMD RYZEN 9950X OC 5.5 GHz▪︎ ASUS ROG ASTRAL RTX 5090 OC ▪︎ 32GB 6600 Crucial Ballistix ▪︎ Windows 11 Pro (25H2) ▪︎ 4x Samsung 990 Pro 2TB NVME SSD (OS Drive et MSFS) ▪︎ Corsair RMX 1000W 80 plus Gold PSU ▪︎ LIAN-LI ODYSSEY X black case
May 2May 2 I have had my computer shut down during flights for about 3 days. I have core temp running and the cpu goes into the 80's. Because I had gotten those gpu warning pop ups, I believed the computer was shut down when the gpu was stressed. I uninstalled that mod that gave lower spec Nvidia cards the ability to run 4X Frame Gen. And the problem has not returned. The 4x Frame Gen mod is enabled by simply dropping a .dll file called version.dll into the same folder location as FlightSimulator2024.exe 5800X3D, RTX4070, 600 Watt, one or two 1440p 32" screens, 64 GB RAM, 4 TB PCle 3 NVMe, Warthog throttle, VKB NXT EVO stick, Honeycomb Alpha yoke, CH quad, 3 Logitech panels, 2 StreamDecks, Desktop Aviator Trim Panel. Crystal Light VR.
May 2May 2 I do believe su5 is stressing gpu's. I believe the only cure is going to be reducing visual settings. I did that by ditching the 4x fg mod. 5800X3D, RTX4070, 600 Watt, one or two 1440p 32" screens, 64 GB RAM, 4 TB PCle 3 NVMe, Warthog throttle, VKB NXT EVO stick, Honeycomb Alpha yoke, CH quad, 3 Logitech panels, 2 StreamDecks, Desktop Aviator Trim Panel. Crystal Light VR.
May 2May 2 So instead of a performance increase it's the opposite. More power needed for the same visuals. And that is what I experience. Win11 Pro 64-bit, Ryzen 5800X3D, Corsair H115i, Gigabyte X570S UD, EVGA 3080Ti XC3 Ultra 12GB, 64 GB DDR4 G.Skill 3600. Monitors: LG 27GL850-B27 2560x1440 + Samsung SyncMaster 2443 1920x1200, HOTAS: Warthog with Virpil WarBRD base & hegykc MFG Crosswind modded pedals, TrackIR4, Rift-S for VR
May 2May 2 Do GPUs typically have throttling to reduce clock speed to keep temperatures within range? I’d hope they’d have a way to protect themselves from getting to temperatures that were going to damage the hardware. Just curious.
May 2May 2 8 hours ago, hvw said: Happy for you 🙂 But as stated, mine are unacceptable and would love to find out why this is. it will be your GPU and not MSFS2024 causing high temps Jason Richards
May 2May 2 Check if the upgrade enabled graphics settings you hadn't that high before, or Dlefault Traffic both on ground and in the air... Flying gliders since 1980 Flightsimming since 1992 AMD Ryzen 5600x, 32GB RAM, GPU Nvidia RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB, 1 TB and 500 GB nvme2 SSD drives, HP 27" 60Hz LED monitor @ 1920x1080, T16000, Hotas from old X52 Pro, Saitek Combat Rudder Pro (2010 model)
May 2May 2 5 hours ago, hvw said: Yes, I understand, but going as hot as almost blowing up the GPU is a bit too much. In the meantime I saw in the Discord channel of Fenix that more users are running into this problem. There's absolutely no need to worry about your GPU blowing up. If it gets close to its maximum safe operating temperature, the GPU will throttle so that it doesn't get hotter than it should. You will lose some performance if that happens, but your GPU won't be damaged.
May 2May 2 1 hour ago, Alistair Logie said: Do GPUs typically have throttling to reduce clock speed to keep temperatures within range? I’d hope they’d have a way to protect themselves from getting to temperatures that were going to damage the hardware. Just curious. Yes, they certainly do. Most people (including me) are probably ultimately CPU limited in MSFS 2024, which means your GPU won't be running at full speed all the time. If SU5 has improved efficiency you would probably see a bit more GPU utilization, which results in higher temperatures. I have noticed this myself, the CPU is absolutely more effective in SU5 but it is still the bottleneck in my system too. Your GPU will throttle down before this really becomes a problem, and GPU temperatures close to the max of an older card like the 3070 isn't that strange. The thermal paste may be degraded, and/or the fans are tired from years of use. But it will throttle down and won't be damaged if you approach the max temps. -Henrik Ryzen 7 7800X3D - RTX 5090 - 64gb DDR5 - Moza AB9 with MH16 Flightstick, MTQ Throttle, Thrustmaster Pendular rudder.
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