On 5/14/2026 at 12:18 PM, ryanbatc said:

I have 4 kids lol.

I imagine your ATC skills come in handy keeping them separated in the house 😂

Here's a paint I had made earlier but was finally able to see it in the sim!

This Lancair makes use of the lovely 2024 native textures which include metallic flake and orange peel. It's pretty neat!

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More expensive than I'd have expected - especially for glass only and beta.... then again, the Lear is £61 on the Marketplace 🤨

Will leave this until the analogue comes out (or A2A) and enjoy the Echo Simulations Falco for now,

Edited May 16May 16 by JYW

17 minutes ago, JYW said:

More expensive than I'd have expected - especially for glass only and beta.... then again, the Lear is £61 on the Marketplace 🤨

My thoughts as well, though in fairness I believe the analog version will be included with no extra charge as soon as it becomes available.

Scott

A few early bugs picked up on Discord already so updates will come thick and fast I think. They did when the 2024 Lear was in beta.

18 minutes ago, tttocs said:

My thoughts as well, though in fairness I believe the analog version will be included with no extra charge as soon as it becomes available.

Confirmed. From their Discord...

Important: The analog panel is not included in this first beta release, but it is coming in a future update at no extra cost. If you buy the aircraft now, you will automatically receive the analog version when it is released.

Scott

1 hour ago, JYW said:

More expensive than I'd have expected - especially for glass only and beta.... then again, the Lear is £61 on the Marketplace 🤨

Will leave this until the analogue comes out (or A2A) and enjoy the Echo Simulations Falco for now,

Analog is coming free of charge.

5 hours ago, tttocs said:

Note that this is a $46.99 beta release. Curious that they're calling this a beta rather than early access, but I expect the experience will be the same either way. Also, glass only - they mention that the analog version should release in around 4 weeks or so.

Edit: And after thinking about it for all of 2 seconds, I realize the difference is likely that the product is feature complete but still with a few bugs to iron out, where an "Early Access" product is typically not feature complete.

Think first, then post Scott.

Scott

Don’t be hard on yourself - it’s almost all marketing semantics, anyway.

Plus, if there’s no steam gauge included right now, it’s definitely Early Access 😁🤙

4 hours ago, regis9 said:

I imagine your ATC skills come in handy keeping them separated in the house 😂

This makes me think I’d be a terrible ATC because I can’t even keep the names straight between the kids and dogs 🤣

1 hour ago, JYW said:

More expensive than I'd have expected - especially for glass only and beta.... then again, the Lear is £61 on the Marketplace 🤨

Will leave this until the analogue comes out (or A2A) and enjoy the Echo Simulations Falco for now,

That was my first reaction, but then again we already know the A2A is gonna be $49.99, so this is right in that ballpark. And the other two variants are coming free sometime “soon”, so…

In re their Lear, yeah, I would’ve preferred they kept the 3 - 6 variants as separate purchases, but the addon is SO satisfying that I’ve definitely gotten over it. 😁👍

That was my first reaction, but then again we already know the A2A is gonna be $49.99, so this is right in that ballpark. And the other two variants are coming free sometime “soon”, so…

In re their Lear, yeah, I would’ve preferred they kept the 3 - 6 variants as separate purchases, but the addon is SO satisfying that I’ve definitely gotten over it. 😁👍

I'll be honest based on what they've delivered now and I've been flying today it's not close to A2A quality, so I personally think the price is far higher than can be justified.

I'll be honest based on what they've delivered now and I've been flying today it's not close to A2A quality, so I personally think the price is far higher than can be justified.

Huh…well that’s disappointing to hear…

There are things that can be fixed like the poor systems modelling of the AP and particularly the comm radio (though I doubt we’ll see a fix to the ridiculous number of variants you have to wade through on the MSFS menu) and the visuals and flying are fine, but I know I can get an awful lot better than fine in this price bracket.

If this was $30ish (which with a discount and loyalty points is roughly what I paid) it might make sense as a genuinely cheaper option for people on a budget but they’ve deliberately chosen to price it effectively the same as an A2A plane and they aren’t in the same league as A2A, no-one is.

As it stands the advantage it has is a G3X glass cockpit but I think they’ve largely priced out the buyer who might be swayed by that.

Huh…well that’s disappointing to hear…,

That's very different than my opinion. Granted I love fast GA. So this was a no brainer to me. Fast, flies pretty well, touchy but true to life flight model, support for turbocharged engine, onboard O2, beautiful g3x and GTNxi integration (I use TDS much more realistic), amazing sounds, gorgeous visuals....not to mention failures and saved states plus the 2024 native goodies (walk-around, dirt and grime accumulation, paint effects such as metallic flake and orange peel)...there's more but I'm mobile so I'm not writing a wall of words haha.

We don't even see the analog panel yet I'm sure that will have GNS/GTN/GTNxi support.

I find the price to be totally fair. You essentially have two engines and two totally different cockpits for less than 50 USD....in this current economy, where everything costs more and more.

And p.s. black square is on the a2a level. A2A goes external therefore they have a slightly better flight model but black square does much more interesting aircraft with deeper systems. Any A2A or Black Square is an insta buy for me!