3 hours ago, jon b said:

I no longer download liveries as I now fly exclusively in VR it’s very rare I’ll look at an external view so I never see the liveries. The exception might be a special case like I’ll sometimes get airline liveries for real aircraft I’ve flown for that airline etc , but most of the time I’m oblivious to how the aircraft looks from the outside.

curious if you’ve tried walk around in VR?

I did it back in XP and it was awesome to get the true sense of scale, especially a jumbo

obviously, you’re well acquainted IRL, so perhaps that’s not a thing for you 👍

The liveries in say the Phenom are good enough as I suppose you know. 🙄

dd

5 hours ago, ryanbatc said:

Since I make a lot of paints I'm trying to find ways to cut down the time it takes to make one. Most people don't know, but making a livery is much more than just textures. It's creating the folder structure, testing the livery, making thumbnails, taking screenshots to display our work etc. On average I find it takes me about 5 hours to make a simple paint, especially if it's the first one in its category. Advanced/complex paints can easily take 20+ hours to finalize everything. I do most of my work for free, but for requests (that I wouldn't normally paint) I typically require payment. Painting in 2020 (and 24) has become a chore at times. I still manage to find joy in painting. As a benefit, or lately I guess, I've received free products from some developers. That is a nice gesture, because I know that nice paints can help sell a product.

Anyway taking quality screenshots helps "sell" the product. Downloads at flightsim.to really only help me get a free premium subscription. Which, imo, is more than fair, because they make money from ads.

However, it's labor intensive... a set of 9 which is what I prefer to do, takes 40-60 min typically.

Do you prefer to see one pic, and that would determine if you download my paint? Or do you prefer to see multiple screenshots? I think sometimes I only look at one pic too. I'm just curious what the community here thinks as I know many have downloaded my liveries over the years. Also important, and I've added it as a choice, do you NOT download paints - could you respond here if you don't and why you don't?

Well, I’m Gonna give you my usual “it depends…” answer 😂

Generally, I do look at the multiple pictures.

BUT, I’m usually looking for ONE specific view: I want to clearly be able to see the entire fuselage and tail, and whether the wings are painted (Most of the time it’s the rear fuselage and tail treatment that turn me off a paint). Also one of the reasons I really dislike the MSFS livery preview angle - can’t see the aft section. And the lighting is bad.

So, my request would be for a single shot 3/4 angle with around 10 deg of bank.

It’d also be nice to see the belly, so perhaps another taken just by slewing the view downwards - or banking away, since that’d only take a few extra secs to capture.

other than that, I couldn’t care less about multiple scenes, esp if you’re actually changing locations/weather, configuration, etc.

So I did vote for multiple screenshots, but I could be entirely satisfied with just one or two at the correct angles. 👍

And, as others have said, I do personally REALLY appreciate your efforts in our behalf!

And now that I know you take commissions, I’m gonna reach out via PM (my requests are boringly simple and repetitive - just like ME! 😂).

53 minutes ago, UrgentSiesta said:

curious if you’ve tried walk around in VR?

I did it back in XP and it was awesome to get the true sense of scale, especially a jumbo

obviously, you’re well acquainted IRL, so perhaps that’s not a thing for you 👍

Yes,I used to stand underneath the wing of the jumbo in P3D and watch in amazement as the flaps came down.

In MSFS I’ll occasionally have a look around the outside of things in VR but not really enough that I’d feel the need to put my favourite livery on there.

I do buy livwries on the MP.

dd

For airliners, I download fictional UAL liveries if UA never the type. For example, A350, A380, etc... I also love alternate colors for airliners or for particular cool liveries such as the Star Wars or the good ole Kulala Flying 101.

For my limited GA, my tastes are similar. If it looks cool, I'll grab it.

How do I determine if it looks cool? I can decide in a handful of pics. (Most can see the quality of the livery as we browse through the photos thus I'm not listing it) Is the livery in colors I like? If not, is it so unique that I have to have it? Is there work done in the cockpit is a bonus.

I appreciate all the painters out there. I'd love to learn but I do not know where to start.

I usually look at a few of them - I certainly appreciate variety.

I look at pics and read the reviews.

Depends upon the painter. Yourself, Tim-HH and a few others, I just want to see a profile shot to see if I like the design and color scheme. I already know if it is one of yours/theirs it will be good quality, so I don't need multiple pictures. If it is a new painter/someone whose work I am not familiar with, then I like to see multiple pictures.

It depends if you're being paid by the hour. If so, one picture is good enough. Keep churning them out! If you're doing paints for your own pleasure then take as many as you like.

Using your Vision Jet pack as an example:

https://flightsim.to/addon/101357/sf50-vision-jet-arrivee-multipack-dynamic-registration

Since its a pack, only 1 picture per livery is needed, you've taken shots that show the whole plane so it works great.

In a single livery download, you'd want two or three angles to show why this was a single, usually more complicated or specific livery. I don't imagine you're changing much on the inside views, but if so, you'd need to show that obviously.

I selected "Yes" in the poll because I usually do look at more than just the first for any livery I'm seriously considering. There are some paints that just hit me right off and I know I don't need to view additional images. In most cases, however, I don't see enough to fully decide in the first image and I just need to get more angles for a better feel. It's probably 70/30 in my case.

That said, the first image is more than enough for me to pass on most paints. So, it's a bit of a qualified response.

As several others have mentioned and as an FYI, I rarely pick up a livery these days that doesn't support dynamic registration.

Scott

The first picture is to get my interest but i need the remaining pictures to evaluate the overall quality of the paint.

Things important to me

1. Is the repaint accurate if there is a real life representation

2. Does the repaint show fine details and decals?

3. Does the repaint show appropriate weathering and appropriate age the aircraft. (Most liveries for me are too new and shiny)

4. Is the painter mindful of the resources available to most users and optimized the paint with that in mind ? (No unnecessary 8k textures) Good painters can bring out all the details without 8k.

For me i need the rest of the pictures to properly evaluate those criteria before i download.