August 22, 201015 yr It's not going to happen, that's why I only have 2 Carenado aircraft in my hangar, and one of those came free included with the other aircraft. Neither of them are installed. Cheers, Andy.
August 22, 201015 yr It's not going to happen, that's why I only have 2 Carenado aircraft in my hangar, and one of those came free included with the other aircraft. Neither of them are installed. I agree Carenado has issues with a lot of their releases and it should not be that way. Carenado should have knowledgable beta testers, but they don't. Im sure the Caravan will look great, right down to the last rivet, but may take JFK's longest runway to get it off the ground. :( In the end It will be fixed within a day or two after release, thanks to the community, Just like the Bonanza. Adding Reality XP gauges, (also with the help of the community) and I now have a great looking plane that flies as good as it looks. I have no doubt the Caravan will end up being one of my favorites too. (As soon as the community gets done posting flight model fixes) :( Rob
August 22, 201015 yr I agree Carenado has issues with a lot of their releases and it should not be that way. Carenado should have knowledgable beta testers, but they don't. That´s why I might buy C208 but not right after the release. This time I will wait and see if it has bugs and will they be fixed.
August 22, 201015 yr I think Carenado makes the very best light a/c for fs. if you know any better tell me..... bugs are going to happen. but they will get fixed. at least ya got something to play around with while your waiting right? and then you get to come here and Bi**h :) it all works out! LOL anyways i dig carenado, so do the chix, keep up the amazing work fellaslater Harry Doucette
August 22, 201015 yr bugs are going to happen. but they will get fixed. That's just it though many bugs don't get fixed by Carenado especially the silly little irritating bugs that take next to no time to fix, that's why I only have two aircraft from them and I bought those several years ago for FSX when they had a sale on at Carenado. It's actually excellent that we have this Carenado forum here now as it's easy for me and everyone else to see that Carenado haven't changed their ways at all really, it saves me a fortune in time, frustration and money. I really do hope they change their ways with this aircraft though. Cheers, Andy.
August 22, 201015 yr Cessna 208 Bravo, cleared for takeoff on Sunday! ;-) Cheers Jan 9800X3D | Asus ROG Astral 5080 | 64GB G.Skill RipJaws | 1T/2T/4T Samsung 990 PRO | Windows 11 | MSFS
August 22, 201015 yr well where i am its just about monday! and no 208!! Paul sheather PC win7 64bit i7 960 oc 3.80 gtx 470x2 SLI 8gig ram PMDG MD11 737NG 747-400 747-800 JS41 B1900 CS 727 757 767 C130 AEROSOFT A320-1 TWIN OTTER FSD PORTER SENECA WARBIRDSIM P51B CARENADO C208 C206 CERA BELL212 FLIGHT1 ATR Active sky ASA
August 23, 201015 yr LOL, I guess that everyone has their own experiences with companies. Carenado has been by FAR the best purchase experience I ever had. Which means that either Carenado is superb in their add-on functionality and quality, OR, That I have dealt with some really crappy companies in the past. After reading the "counter-rants" I'm beginning to think that the second is true... Inigo Montoya
August 23, 201015 yr What is worse is that they have no response to this...Any other developer would have addressed the issues raised here in an instant. It certainly can't look good to potential customers coming on here and reading all of these unanswered complaints. I don't understand it. What is the point of a support forum if no one responds? :( bugs are going to happen. but they will get fixed. at least ya got something to play around with while your waiting right? and then you get to come here and Bi**h :) it all works out! Harry, it isn't about there being bugs. It is about them being the SAME bugs every single release- either the same general types of errors and sometimes the same exact errors from code carried over from addon to addon. I have contacted them via email and PM MANY times asking to beta test their products. If I was one of their testers (I've got plenty of experience from other companies), I would not allow any plane to be released with such bugs. A flight model being completely and horribly wrong isn't a "bug". It is a glaring error that somehow got past a perhaps non-existent (or may as well be) beta team. I spent hours fixing Carenado's Bonanza flight model so myself and others could enjoy the aircraft while they spent weeks fixing it. I'm not just coming here and "Bi**h"ing. Tired of Streetlights everywhere? Try MSFS DarkStreets today!
August 23, 201015 yr man o man, nothing wrong with them is there? i never had a prob with mine. now i also dont fly anything but cessna 150,152,172's in real life so i wouldent know about the beech.but yah dude, if they aint fixen it fix that sux, for me it suits my fun level of fs just fine!WHERES ME CARAVAN!!!!!!!!! Harry Doucette
August 23, 201015 yr Commercial Member All this bellyaching is making me want to defend Carenado a little. There seems to be a bit of piling-on here about all the things we think are wrong with them. Would any of us care how their planes flew if they weren't so damn good-looking? Because let's face it, Carenado produces some of the best models and textures around. Yes, there are frequently problems with the flight dynamics, and clearly they have some deficiency of expertise in that area. But credit where it's due, they've got a track record of getting things sorted out with the help of the community. No, they don't participate on these forums as often I think they should, but they're far from unresponsive. And in case anyone hasn't noticed, they're one of the most prolific teams in aircraft creation to boot, turning out multiple aircraft every year, and for a good price. Are they perfect? No, of course not. But for my money, they're very good at what they do and they're showing signs of improving with every release. That's enough to keep me coming back every time.Looking forward to the C208! Bill Womack ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit my FS Blog or follow me on Twitter (username: bwomack). Intel i7-950 OC to 4GHz | 6GB DDR3 RAM | Nvidia GTX460 1gb | 2x 120GB SSDs | Windows 7 Ultimate 64Bit
August 23, 201015 yr Well said Bill. I fully agree. For the money we all spend on these planes, I feel we are getting our money's worth for sure. And as for issues with the planes, they will eventually get ironed out!And just as I was typing this, look what Fernando just posted about the F33... This package:- Corrects the DME display when the distnace to the VOR is more than 99 miles.- Solves an issue related to turning on and off ADF1 and ADF2.- Improves some clickeable areas of the GNS430.- Solves an issue in the GNS430 related to a misplaced red line of flight plans.- Solves an issue with the Flight Plan Display letters. - Improves the flight dynamics.- Adds two NAV/ADF switches to the RMI. Now RMI is working right.- Changes some difficult to read textures and corrects some misspellings.- Replaces some panel textures to make letters readable. - Reduces the drag effect on flaps.- Fixes the flaps knob positions.- Adjusts flight dynamics (specially: roll and pitch effects and takeoff run distance).- Adjusts attitude indicator in the VC.- Illuminates one of the fuel flow screen.- Adjusts the rear navigation light.Known issues:- Problem withe the fuel selector related to a FSX bug.Many of the above issues were corrected previously in the SP1 and SP2. You can install this SP over the others without any problem.If you prefer, just download again the package from the link you got after your purchase.Click here to go to the page:Carenado "To most the sky is the limit but to me it's home" Rick Harms (CYVR) i7 [email protected] (for now) asus p6t v2, 6gb ocz 1600 CL7 ram. BFG 285 oc, vista 64, Samsung 52" 1080p lcd track IR5. PMDG j41, 747-400x, 747-8i/f, NGX.......Finally!!!!
August 23, 201015 yr Noice! :( still waiting on the Caravan though :(LOL.I can't wait to buy this plane. I love the caravan and was excited to see Carenado developing it. I am also so glad to think it will be out soon (I am still waiting for a plane from another developer that is over 2 years late :-(Hopefully, we will see it soon. ;-) 10850K, MSI Unify Z490, 32gb G.Skill Ripjaw 3600 CL16, MSI 5700 XT 8gb, Nochua NH-U12a, WD 500gb Black SSD (OS- Windows 10 Pro), Samsung 2tb Evo plus SSD (games), Superflower 850 watts power supply
August 23, 201015 yr Bill, that was well said.As a beta tester with a degree of experience in and out of the flight simulator community, I'm not sure I agree with the idea that beta testers can prevent a developer from going to market with a flawed product. I will do my level best to point out the problems in a piece of software, and behind the scenes, discussions can get a little "energetic" from time to time, but at the end of the day, the developer has the final decision. Carenado's business model seems to be to put together their best work and trust that the community will point out the short-comings of their products immediately after release. They've been very successful with this, because they get input from those who are most passionate about each particular airplane -- look at the post-release arc of the C185, which is an astonishing offering. These guys do good work...it isn't perfect, but it's very good indeed, and fills a niche that would otherwise be glaringly empty.I'm looking forward to the release of the C208. Best Regards, Kurt "Yoda" Kalbfleisch Pinner, Middx, UK Beta tester for PMDG J41, NGX, and GFO, Flight1 Super King Air B200, Flight1 Cessna Citation Mustang, Flight1 Cessna 182, Flight1 Cessna 177B, Aeroworx B200
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