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Externalities and the NGX

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As I understand it they are getting a retrofit somewhat similar to what's being done to some 757s and 767s right now - it's modern NG or 777 style LCD EFIS displays, not the same small CRT screens from the glass 300s. This way, the 300s get RNP capabilities and the pilots can still fly both types like they do now. (which was the whole reason for their old EFIS/MAP style displays in the first place)
Neat! Wow, that is quite a project! I would imagine that it would be quite time consuming and expensive.

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A picture paints a thousand words! I saw this a few months ago and it took me forever to find it, But here is a picture of the Southwest 737-300 avionics upgrade.4l6lau.jpgIt seems like a cool upgrade, and makes me want PMDG to do the classic 737s to supplement the NGX Just%20Kidding.gif

A picture paints a thousand words! I saw this a few months ago and it took me forever to find it, But here is a picture of the Southwest 737-300 avionics upgrade.4l6lau.jpgIt seems like a cool upgrade, and makes me want PMDG to do the classic 737s to supplement the NGX Just%20Kidding.gif
Thanks!!!Wow, it looks as if it is actually one screen divided down the middle instead of two screens. Looks pretty cool!

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That's just turbulence - if you have a downward gust/shear then you'll feel that negative G for a second.Not sure what you mean by "the G's needle" though - the 737 doesn't have a G meter - only military aircraft have those basically.I can't really answer the deicing questions - I don't see that very often in Phoenix haha.
Thats scary to be honest. In October 2009 I was on the Emirates A380 from AKL-SYD and on decent past 10,000 feet we had this 'falling' feeling for about 30 seconds. That may not seem long, but I grabbed onto my seat! LOL.

When i went to Newcastle (Australia) in July 2009 on board a Jetstar A320 from Melbourne, the weather was grey and rainy and while on approach descending through about 3000 ft the plane dropped, It was funny coz everyone on board gasped at the same time. i was holding onto my armrest and the force made it lift into the up position (it was a loose one). I actually enjoy the feeling.

wow. Im glad to see southwest upgraded their aircraft :)

Robert 'Bob' Greene

Airliners.net has a pic of the new cockpit of the 737-700 (none for classics yet)Just searchAirline: southwestA/C: 737-700Keywords: CockpitSort By: Year (recent first)It looks great :)

Robert 'Bob' Greene

Yes, SWA uses PFD/ND format now. It was changed (I think March-April of 2010), to accomodate for RNP Procedures. They also use VNAV and have A/T, which weren't operational before.
That is great news indeed. I'm going to be doing SWA flights in the NGX, and being a stickler for following company ops, I was apprehensive about following their SOPs in regards to the "prehistoric" dial displays on the glass and the exclusion of Autothrottle. Nice to see them join the modern age with the rest of the NG drivers!

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In response to the icing question, it's pretty common for a lot to build up if the plane sits through a snowstorm. De-icing is typically a 2 part process, de-icing (Type I, usually orange, heated and waterlike) and anti-icing (Type IV, usually thick green slime like). The Type I is used to remove the snow and ice from the aircraft, and then Type IV is applied to prevent further buildup. When the aircraft takes off, the Type IV slides off taking any ice with it. For this reason, Type IV can't be applied to any aircraft with a VR speed of less than 100 knots.There is another (Type III I believe) that is De-icing and Anti-icing in one, but as I understand it that is less common. At my work we use the I and IV.

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Could someone please tell me what the 082 and 045 indications mean?Thanks.

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In response to the icing question, it's pretty common for a lot to build up if the plane sits through a snowstorm. De-icing is typically a 2 part process, de-icing (Type I, usually orange, heated and waterlike) and anti-icing (Type IV, usually thick green slime like). The Type I is used to remove the snow and ice from the aircraft, and then Type IV is applied to prevent further buildup. When the aircraft takes off, the Type IV slides off taking any ice with it. For this reason, Type IV can't be applied to any aircraft with a VR speed of less than 100 knots.There is another (Type III I believe) that is De-icing and Anti-icing in one, but as I understand it that is less common. At my work we use the I and IV.
Also in Europe Type II is quite common and can be used either heated in a 1-step process which will give a longer holdover than just a deicing (Type I) or as the 2nd step in a 2-step process. It will not give as long a holdover as type IV though. To get an idea you can have a look at the Transport Canada Hold Over Times table.

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Could someone please tell me what the 082 and 045 indications mean?Thanks.
Going from memory here, I'm pretty sure the figures refer to the maximum and minimum terrain elevations contained within the ND range at any one time. Someone correct me if I'm wrong!e.g. 082 = 8,200ft

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There is a gauge that I'm referring to, but I can't think of what it is right now. I want to say that it is visible on the PFD.
The only thing I could think of that might look like a G meter, kinda, would be an AoA gauge. But yes, the values are certainly of different meaning. :(
As I understand it they are getting a retrofit somewhat similar to what's being done to some 757s and 767s right now - it's modern NG or 777 style LCD EFIS displays, not the same small CRT screens from the glass 300s. This way, the 300s get RNP capabilities and the pilots can still fly both types like they do now. (which was the whole reason for their old EFIS/MAP style displays in the first place)
What do they do to 57/67s? Any known pictures floating around? Would be curious as hell.
A picture paints a thousand words! I saw this a few months ago and it took me forever to find it, But here is a picture of the Southwest 737-300 avionics upgrade.
Looks odd. But I love the steam gauges, always loved em haha... :( Well, is this picture cropped or anything? Is it a large single screen with not exactly square PFD/ND parts? Never seen it before in that config though, that's for sure. Thanks for posting! Big%20Grin.gifsig.gif
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