Huh? I've always appreciated a crisp clean VC with 3d gauges - looks much better than Carenado's... even their 340Opinion I guess :(

If we were just talking about gauges only of course I'd go with realair, but their VC's are so sterile and plasticky looking compared to Carenado's. That's my biggest gripe with realair. Their flight dynamics and sound are amazing, as are the gauges, but the textures and materials they use for their models look like gloss plastic and have little to no detail.Opinions... we all have em! You know how the rest goes... :(

There must be something odd in your setup. My fuel flows definitely change based on mixture in the 340 and in the Bonanza - the two Carenado birds I've flown most recently.

Hi Bill. I tried using the CNTL_SHIFT_F2 and I can see the mixture levers coming back but fuel flow and egt remains the same. I do have the latest SP installed.EDIT. Sorry Bill. Its a recent FSX reinstall and I had automixture in the FSX settings enabled. Works fine now. Thanks for letting me know this feature works though!

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How does that work in FSX?And about Carenado. Yes, they have released some products that were not ready (or so it seemed to be), but on the other hand, how much we would miss from the FSX world without Carenado! Think about us bush pilots without C185, C206 etc...

Why does a post about whether company A is possibly releasing a new aircraft quickly turn into a post about company A versus company B?

To be fair to them, finding someone who owns and flies a Cessna 340 and is willing to test their product may be somewhat difficult.

Carenado stated that the C340 was tested by C340 pilots - as they have also done with numerous other releases. I just wonder what worth that statement has any longer. The Seneca, Caravan and C340 all had odd behavior out of the box. Don't get me wrong, this is one company I really want to see succeeding and flourishing. Problem is, I think they are already doing that, which is exactly why they are not particularly concerned about this aspect of the product. Carenado + Realair Simulation ....what amazing children they would make. Carenado's amazingly good looks and Realair's logic, intellect and fine tuned athletic ability. :(

Carenado stated that the C340 was tested by C340 pilots - as they have also done with numerous other releases. I just wonder what worth that statement has any longer. The Seneca, Caravan and C340 all had odd behavior out of the box. Don't get me wrong, this is one company I really want to see succeeding and flourishing. Problem is, I think they are already doing that, which is exactly why they are not particularly concerned about this aspect of the product.

and how many times it was actually the endusers that finalized the flight envelope. just take the carenado C208 that had to be tuned by users and that was later released as just another service pack.The fact that they had to release so many service packs afte each release just show that either the product was not tested properly or it was tested and issues was raised but they still go ahead of release knowing people will wait for Service packs.. IMHO a very bad business practice. That is why realair / PMDG etc are good reputable names as 99% of released products works 99% as designed.

If we were just talking about gauges only of course I'd go with realair, but their VC's are so sterile and plasticky looking compared to Carenado's. That's my biggest gripe with realair. Their flight dynamics and sound are amazing, as are the gauges, but the textures and materials they use for their models look like gloss plastic and have little to no detail.Opinions... we all have em! You know how the rest goes... :(

well when I look at this real life video then I like the "sterile" look from realair.. they are pretty spot on then with their rendering of their cockpits. as close as you can get to real life cockpits. Watch the whole video to see what I am talking about..! instrument panel and interior is just immaculatehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnf8_OZs5rQ&feature=player_embedded

If we were just talking about gauges only of course I'd go with realair, but their VC's are so sterile and plasticky looking compared to Carenado's. That's my biggest gripe with realair. Their flight dynamics and sound are amazing, as are the gauges, but the textures and materials they use for their models look like gloss plastic and have little to no detail.Opinions... we all have em! You know how the rest goes... :(

I hear where you're coming from but I've sat in a few Baron's that are so pristine their cockpits look similar to RA's Duke hehe...

If we were just talking about gauges only of course I'd go with realair, but their VC's are so sterile and plasticky looking compared to Carenado's. That's my biggest gripe with realair. Their flight dynamics and sound are amazing, as are the gauges, but the textures and materials they use for their models look like gloss plastic and have little to no detail.Opinions... we all have em! You know how the rest goes... :(

I agree totally with regard to the RealAir Virtual Cockpits. A little bit too clean and shiny compared to real life. I flew an ex-military SF-260 from Denham last weekend and the cockpit was as you'd expect..scuff marks here and there and obvious wear on the instrument panel binnacle and seats. HOWEVER Realair make up for their somewhat clinical looking VC's with superb detailing on the exterior modelling and the most realistic flight dynamics available for FSX/FS2004 so long may they reign.A combo of a Carenado VC and RealAir flight dynamics would make one awesome aeroplane :(

It would be great if either company would produce a Beech 1900. This would be the bridge between GA and airline types. Dave Vega

I hear where you're coming from but I've sat in a few Baron's that are so pristine their cockpits look similar to RA's Duke hehe...

Difference in the planes interiors is all about ownership. B60's 90% privately owned and private owners look after their stuff..Cessna's 172/185/206 and 260's etc normally company owned and renters dont give a damn about treatment.The planes that was used to model for realair is 99% private owned, so I have a feeling that is why they their cockpits look so immaculate. Private owners take pride in their aeroplanes

Difference in the planes interiors is all about ownership. B60's 90% privately owned and private owners look after their stuff..Cessna's 172/185/206 and 260's etc normally company owned and renters dont give a damn about treatment.The planes that was used to model for realair is 99% private owned, so I have a feeling that is why they their cockpits look so immaculate. Private owners take pride in their aeroplanes

I beg your pardon! I've been a renter, and I always took good care of my rented steed. Learning to treat a plane with respect is part of learning good airmanship. But it's true - the 1975 model 172M that I learned it was a bit worse for wear.

I beg your pardon! I've been a renter, and I always took good care of my rented steed. Learning to treat a plane with respect is part of learning good airmanship. But it's true - the 1975 model 172M that I learned it was a bit worse for wear.

Yep, a rented plane is a lot different than a rented car! BTW, Carenado hired an excellent FDE guy for their FSX planes to be released after the Baron and the Commander :)

BTW, Carenado hired an excellent FDE guy for their FSX planes to be released after the Baron and the Commander :)

There's the important word. First of all, praises to all the fans which had been working on e. g. the C185 to tune the FDE. You guys (speaking in general) really offer some improvement there and your efforts hopefully get recognized.From bstolle's sentence (and new status) one can read that Carenado took the right step, improving their stuff where it offers the largest potential. Optics always were fine, but the FDE sometimes drove the people nuts and didn't represent the plane's character one could see on the screen. So lets hope for some releases were it doesn't take two service packs (and complains from the customers) or so to enable some nice plane.

I beg your pardon! I've been a renter, and I always took good care of my rented steed. Learning to treat a plane with respect is part of learning good airmanship. But it's true - the 1975 model 172M that I learned it was a bit worse for wear.

Might be not the case for you but I have seen stuff that is hair raising.. You get all types in all areas of life.. Airplanes is not excluded how much you say that good airmanship is pass and parcel of proper conduct..!