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NGX 6-700 and 8-900 do they really differ ?

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"The package includes the 600, 700 and 700WL (winglet) variants along with all the cockpit, engine, sound, flight model and performance differences they bring compared to their longer 800 and 900 siblings. The 600 and 700 are the perfect complement to the 800 and 900 for all your shorter lower-density routes"To be honest and except their size/shape/fuel and payload capacities, I don't see such big differences between the 2 NGX models : same glass cockpit/equipment&display and all the rest seem to be very similar apart the flight dynamics and performances.But does it make such a difference ? I may be wrong but this new NGX version makes me feel I've just purchased new NGX liveries.Anyway the NGX stays an excellent add-on so I'm not that disappointed

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To be honest and To be honest andTo be honest and except their size/shape/fuel and payload capacities, I don't see such big differences between the 2 NGX models : same glass cockpit/equipment&display and all the rest seem to be very similar apart the flight dynamics and performances.
size/shape/fuel and payload capacities,Err, yes, correct, they are different.same glass cockpit/equipment&display Yes, correct, they are the same.very similar apart the flight dynamics and performances.Yes, correct, the flight dynamics are different.They look different and they fly different... What else were you expecting... anti-gravity generators? Big%20Grin.gif

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And even the short variants are still 737s, so you can't really expect dramatically different flying behavior, VTOL capabilities or air-to-air missles. :wink:The climate control in the cockpit is different, by the way.

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"The package includes the 600, 700 and 700WL (winglet) variants along with all the cockpit, engine, sound, flight model and performance differences they bring compared to their longer 800 and 900 siblings. The 600 and 700 are the perfect complement to the 800 and 900 for all your shorter lower-density routes"To be honest and except their size/shape/fuel and payload capacities, I don't see such big differences between the 2 NGX models : same glass cockpit/equipment&display and all the rest seem to be very similar apart the flight dynamics and performances.But does it make such a difference ? I may be wrong but this new NGX version makes me feel I've just purchased new NGX liveries.Anyway the NGX stays an excellent add-on so I'm not that disappointed
that is why I did not buy it, just b/c of "I may be wrong but this new NGX version makes me feel I've just purchased new NGX liveries"I feel the same as you do.I am happy with my 800 and I only do short flights. and in the real world that fly as a passenger all the time (South-East Asia) all their short flights are done either by an Airbus 32x or 737-800.so for me 737-800 is for shorter flights.if you weant longer flights, then use the 747, etc.

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You can feel the diference in any approach procedure!!! If not, go ahead with short flights in your 738. it is fine but take care in short runways and dangerous approachs.

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never had an issue with my 738 on dangerous approaches, I find it pretty easy as far as Airplane size and RW length, never felt this limitation of short RW.but again , I am hand flying the plane manually following the procedures output of the ND, PFD, etc instrument(s) that I pre-configured in the FMS , I wouldn't know how would it be when you autopilot the plane, maybe it is different and more complex when you use auto pilot.

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But the flight dynamics is what it's all about, the 600 is great fun - with no pass/cargo and low fuel I use it like a GA aircraft and land on grass fields smile.png

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Yes, the flight dynamics are noticeably different. And if, like me, you love the challenge of flying into very small runways, then the reduced landing distance of the 600 with SFP, is entertaining.WestJet didn't buy the 600 variant for nothing.It also gets boring flying an aircraft with the same characteristics over and over again, great to jump into the 600 and feel the extra performance, and experience the short field capability.Each to his own, whatever crumbles your cookie. But to say the 600/700 package is just liveries is very naive.

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never had an issue with my 738 on dangerous approaches, I find it pretty easy as far as Airplane size and RW length, never felt this limitation of short RW.but again , I am hand flying the plane manually following the procedures output of the ND, PFD, etc instrument(s) that I pre-configured in the FMS , I wouldn't know how would it be when you autopilot the plane, maybe it is different and more complex when you use auto pilot.
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Noone noticed that air conditioning is different?Except for that, they are NGs, the only difference are the added or removed fuselage sections.Also the wings are the same, so also the fuel tank have same limits.So, it's right to say that they have :-the same glass cockpit (you can customize them by adding or changing, or removing options) and there is the exception of the air cond. panel that is different, you will see also a difference in the current loads.-The same fuel quantity but different fuel consuption-same shape except for long or short fuselage, but you will feel during flight as the dynamics are not the sameSo, they are different planes.If you are not happy with it, don't buy it, if you bought expecting something else, you did a mistake, the plane is supposed to be in that manner, pmdg cannot simulate a 747 cockpit for a 737 just to add a difference that doesn't exist. ;-)

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In my opinion the -900 is like driving a Peterbilt semi and the -600 is like driving a Corvette. Both fun, but both perform dramatically different. The expansion is worth the $25 IMHO.Cheers!

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different engine thrust ratings too. The 600 only has 22k engines, compared to the 26ks for the 800 and 900s

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To those wavering with the 6/700 purchase; your really missing out! The all fly similarly of course, that's the condition of that common type rating ;), but you'll find many I your procedural flying quite different between the variants. Yes you can bomb around in your 800 cross country hauling huge load factors or you can settle in to the 600 and do those ambiguous routes with no fancy STARs, NDB approaches, and nice tight runway environments...and do them realistically. You'll find yourself doing all sorts of milk-runs in the -700 series, cross crossing all over and giving yourself plenty if approach and landing practice...with the flexibility of doing those long legs just as you would do with the -800/900.Yes it's a bummer PMDG sorta reneged on the all variants in one deal, but 95 bones (or whatver it cost) for the whole meal deal is worth it anyways.

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Yep, I noticed a little more engine "whine" on the shorter models.I can tell a good bit of differences in the way they handle, but I'vebeen so busy lately, I really haven't had a whole lot of time to flythe 600/700. Had to go to AR for a funeral this week..But I can tell a good difference in the way the 700 and 800 land.The 700 feels less nose heavy on touchdown for one thing..The 800 seems to want to drop down on the nose gear a tadfaster than the 700.I liked the way the 600 felt, and again, it's different than the800/900's. So there is a difference between each one.I actually feel the least difference comparing the 800 to the 900.They both feel pretty similar to me.I'm going to make me a BBJ paint job for the 600 when I getaround to it. I'm using the "Janet" livery for now.The 700 I fly with Southwest paint 90% of the time.That was the one I was really waiting for.. But the 600 is agood one too. I think it will make a nifty little BBJ to hoparound in.

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"The package includes the 600, 700 and 700WL (winglet) variants along with all the cockpit, engine, sound, flight model and performance differences they bring compared to their longer 800 and 900 siblings. The 600 and 700 are the perfect complement to the 800 and 900 for all your shorter lower-density routes"To be honest and except their size/shape/fuel and payload capacities, I don't see such big differences between the 2 NGX models : same glass cockpit/equipment&display and all the rest seem to be very similar apart the flight dynamics and performances.But does it make such a difference ? I may be wrong but this new NGX version makes me feel I've just purchased new NGX liveries.Anyway the NGX stays an excellent add-on so I'm not that disappointed
There are subtle differences between the 600/700/800 (don't know about the 900 since i dont fly it) if you care enough to find them.Of course there is a great degree of commonality between the 737NG series members, just like with the Airbus A318/319/320/321, which the airline industry sees as an advantage because of decreased pilot training costs.What did you expect PMDG to do? Invent some entirely new airplane and leave reality behind?I sometimes have the feeling that some people are going for superficial "best bang for the buck" only instead of appreciating deep realism and subtle attention to detail.

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I'm just waiting for an airTran repaint. Then I'll ###### these babies up.Edit. LOL. What? SN#TCH?!

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Yes, the flight dynamics are noticeably different. And if, like me, you love the challenge of flying into very small runways, then the reduced landing distance of the 600 with SFP, is entertaining.WestJet didn't buy the 600 variant for nothing.It also gets boring flying an aircraft with the same characteristics over and over again, great to jump into the 600 and feel the extra performance, and experience the short field capability.Each to his own, whatever crumbles your cookie. But to say the 600/700 package is just liveries is very naive.
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Yes, the flight dynamics are noticeably different. And if, like me, you love the challenge of flying into very small runways, then the reduced landing distance of the 600 with SFP, is entertaining.WestJet didn't buy the 600 variant for nothing.It also gets boring flying an aircraft with the same characteristics over and over again, great to jump into the 600 and feel the extra performance, and experience the short field capability.Each to his own, whatever crumbles your cookie. But to say the 600/700 package is just liveries is very naive.
I dont what it is but I've fallen in love with the 600, she is brilliant. She feels different, lighter, easier to handle. Love the short hops and the longer trips. They're all definitely different

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What I like about the combined NGX packages is that you can choose to fly short regional hops with the 600 to 3000nm cruises with the 900 and everything between. You can choose from a massive range of genuine commercial routes using the authentic aircraft.In my opinion, the 600/700 is well worth the extra money.

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In my opinion the -900 is like driving a Peterbilt semi and the -600 is like driving a Corvette. Both fun, but both perform dramatically different. The expansion is worth the $25 IMHO.Cheers!
Buddy has said it perfectly. In my opinion they are different and similar, like different models of the same car. if you were expecting a different plane, then you should have bought a different plane

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I think there's a big difference, especially (obviously) between the 900 and the 600. They sure as sh*t handle quite differently.I think the 600 is just brilliant. I only wish there were more paints for it - real or not.I don't understand quite why, but I have noticed the difference 'feels' less defined if I use a joystick. When using the usual yoke, the FD feel markedly diferent.Loving it! Great bird - Thanks PMDG!

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I think there's a big difference, especially (obviously) between the 900 and the 600. They sure as sh*t handle quite differently.I think the 600 is just brilliant. I only wish there were more paints for it - real or not.I don't understand quite why, but I have noticed the difference 'feels' less defined if I use a joystick. When using the usual yoke, the FD feel markedly diferent.Loving it! Great bird - Thanks PMDG!
My biggest wish would be for a fantasy -600 livery would be an Alaska Airlines standard livery. I fly almost exclusively in Alaska and a WestJet -600 in not really "fitting in"!

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I can only echo what others have said... the handling and performance of the 600 and 700 is quite different from that of the 800. While procedures and graphical appearance are very similar (as you would expect), the differences for the flight sim pilot can only realised once you take it for a (hand)fly.

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I'm just waiting for an airTran repaint. Then I'll ###### these babies up.Edit. LOL. What? SN#TCH?!
Zach-You just had me laughing so hard I woke up The Lovely Dr. Randazzo... (and Gracie, the Golden Retriever, who now insists I go stand outside in the -3C cold while she does her business....)I think thats twice for you in the same month, isn't it? hahahahahahaha

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