January 7, 201214 yr If the price of the NGX and all its variants are a financial burden, you really should be doing something else with your time.Edit: My apologies. I promised myself I would never use the phrase "you should" in a post. It's very condescending. Edited January 7, 201214 yr by IFR7700 Dennis Trawick Screen Shot Forum Rules
January 8, 201214 yr Author Hey, no doubt I agree with all your statements - the value is there, but relative. For those that dedicate their simming time to mostly 737's sure. I have a wide range of aircraft on my platform, and I like to jump back and forth with as many realistic as possible airplanes (GA and commercial). It all depends on my mood / mission. As a result, there's a lot of planes I bought and rarely use (some now impossible with win7-64), so justifying THIS purchase is only possible knowing that the new MS Flight will not be compatible with anything, and I don't plan on using it at all (except the free part perhaps). Aleksandar Djordjevic
January 9, 201214 yr I didn't even blink when purchesing the 600700 add-on. Not once!Same here. And I won't blink before purchasing the next product. PMDG is a company that must prosper and make us happy with more fine art in the future. Regards, Martin Martinov / VATSIM 1207931
January 9, 201214 yr I haven't posted about much lately- mostly because of the puerile nature of a lot of the posts. This one I can't let slip by- sorry! There is NO PRODUCT in the history of Flight Simulation that has delivered more for less. To prarphrase Sir Winston- "Never, in the field of flight simulation, have so many, owed so much, to so few". For a pittance, you are provided with insight into an airframe, almost equivalent to that provided by a multi-million Dollar Level D sim. In terms of documentation, you receive the equivalent of thousands as provided by Boeing. The summative experience is superlative.As Fred succinctly stated- there are other options- always.I really wish I didn't have to Google every other word when reading your post. :($70 was a small price in my opinion. Even on my meager student income. Edited January 9, 201214 yr by ZachLW ___________________________________________________________________________________ Zachary Waddell -- Caravan Driver -- Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/zwaddell Avsim ToS Avsim Screenshot Rules
January 9, 201214 yr I would easily pay $70 over again for the NGX. I bought the 6/700 packs as soon as they released, and I will buy every other pack that comes out for the NGX. Even if I won't fly the -900ER, I would still like to support PMDG so they can keep the great products coming.
January 9, 201214 yr As far as I am concerned, PMDG made the price of the NGX much too cheap.You then got to listen to morons talk about the "massive" price they have to pay forthe most advanced 737NG on the PC.And the 600/700 are not the most common models. The 800 is the most common model of an NG.Why not wait a few more weeks and you can play the MS Flight arcade game for free.Fred. If the price of the NGX and all its variants are a financial burden, you really should be doing something else with your time.Edit: My apologies. I promised myself I would never use the phrase "you should" in a post. It's very condescending.Some of us here are students, or perhaps even still at high school. Others may have a family to feed or have a low-wage recession sensitive job. $100,- is a lot of money to many people here. Is the NGX worth that amount of money? Yes (IMO), but that doesn't make $100,- less money. There's no need to be offensive about it.Edit: Apologies accepted :) Edited January 9, 201214 yr by japascoe John-Alan Pascoe
January 9, 201214 yr The life is full of priorities.Flight simulation is one of the latest ones.If you think that 100$ are too much, don't buy it. It is really simple.Here in Italy, with all of the financial problems people are still buying Iphones and useless things, but they always moan about they have no money...No money with a new car, with the latest phone, a phone wich replaced the previous gen phone or just because it has only one feature more than the other, people going to the restaurants and wasting money in futile things.If in your case you don't have enogh money to buy it, the solution is one, only one, your life will not change with or without it, but probably the 100$ you save can be used for a more important thing.One of my hobbies is the rc WWII tank modelling in big scales.It is an expensive hobby, and in this last period I needed to save money limiting that hobby. Regards Andrea Daviero
January 9, 201214 yr I really wish I didn't have to Google every other word when reading your post.You didn't happen to Google puerile did you........ ?;) Best- Carl Avari-Cooper
January 9, 201214 yr You didn't happen to Google puerile did you........ ?;)I did! Edited January 9, 201214 yr by ZachLW ___________________________________________________________________________________ Zachary Waddell -- Caravan Driver -- Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/zwaddell Avsim ToS Avsim Screenshot Rules
January 9, 201214 yr I paid over £10 ($16) for a 'Steak' burger in a pub the other day which looked suspiciously like something you got out of the freezer in a supermarket stuck between two pieces of dry bread.The NGX will provide you with hundreds of hours of entertainment and is well worth the price of the two packages. FS2024 • PMDG 738, 77F • FSL A321 • A2A Comanche, Aerostar • BS Baron, Bonanza, Caravan Pro • JF Tomahawk • TAOG H500C BeyondATC • GSX Pro • ChasePlane & Flow Pro • TDS GTNXi • FSUIPC • AutoFPS • RealTurb 9800X3D B650E • ROG OC RTX 5090 • 64GB DDR5-6000 • VKB Gladiator, STECS, T-Rudder • Tobii 5 • ISP 1 Gbps
January 9, 201214 yr So, I'm just curious why the 800/900 was released first instead of the 600/700 like the original versions in FS9. For me, I would have liked to have a choice of which pair I want, then pay for the other if I want an expansion. 90% of my 737 flying is on the -700, then the -600 (due to the fleets I use). With the original release, I did get the 800/900 package, but rarely used those products. I don't like the idea of throwing a whopping $70, then another $25 just so I can get the more common models. Perhaps on the whole it may make 'business sense', but I think something like that may also retract sales too.All I say - in this day and age and with the prices that we pay for things, we should be able to choose which package version we want. That opens the door to everyone's tastes, and may even increase sales.Just my thoughts.So is it worth it? I have the iFly 737, but $70 is a massive investment to switch to. For that price, PMDG should be releasing a trial-version (limited area/functionality/time).$70 may be a "massive" investment for some, but then, consider what you'll get with the NGX: the most advanced 737NG simuation that a PC flight simulator environment can offer. Given that, $70 is not really much for what you'll get.I used the iFly 737 to bridge the gap until the PMDG NGX release. The iFly is a nice product, but I actually deinstalled it from my machine after I found myself not using it anymore since the NGX came out.If you cannot afford to spend $70, that's a different story. Dave P. Woycek
January 9, 201214 yr So far, I've done ~120 hrs on this plane alone so, $ 0.58 per hour, and no sign of getting bored :). Jude BradleyBeech Baron: Uh, Tower, verify you want me to taxi in front of the 747?ATC: Yeah, it's OK. He's not hungry. X-Plane 12 and MSFS2020 🙂 System specs: Windows 11 Pro 64-bit, Ubuntu Linux 20.04 i7-13700KF Gigabyte Z790 RTX-4060-Ti , 32GB RAM 1X 2TB M2 for X-Plane 12, 1x256GB SSD for OS. 1TB drive MSFS2020
January 10, 201214 yr Sorry Sacha, but you really have no clue of what you are talking about. Do you complain about a Ferrari being too expensive? Would you rather they make them for the cost of a VW Beetle so everyone could afford them? I bet you you wouldn't buy one then, it just would not be worth it.I know everyone here has praised the NGX (or all PMDG products for that matter) until they run out of words. But let me share something with you that might put things in perspective. I recently completed training on an IPT (integrated procedures trainer). It is basically a bunch of touch-screen LCDs put together around a pair of FMCs and MCP, shaped to look like a cockpit. The simulator is put together by a reputable flight training company which is used by airlines worldwide. This IPT software is basically a sim but without the visuals.You can takeoff and fly only a very specific profile going from A to B, and doing exactly what is on the script. Half the functions don't work and the other half work only if done in the proper sequence. You spend half the time blue-screening and re-booting the whole thing. And guess what, you can't start where you left off, you must start at the beginning of the script. You get one shot at the thing. There is no going around and diverting to a random airport, there is no deviating from the script.For this, the airline pays a sum in the 5 to 6 figures range, depending on the level of support (read - nonexistent).So PMDG now provides you with what is, for all practical purposes, A VIRTUAL 737NG WITH 99% FUNCTIONALITY AND STABILITY for a measly 100bucks, and you think this is unreasonable? Son, you need to get some perspective. I don't think you understand how lucky you are to have such a great piece of software in your hands. I would pay up to 500USD for the freedom to play with a virtual 737NG, but that is just me.
January 10, 201214 yr I recently completed training on an IPT (integrated procedures trainer). It is basically a bunch of touch-screen LCDs put together around a pair of FMCs and MCP, shaped to look like a cockpit. The simulator is put together by a reputable flight training company which is used by airlines worldwide. This IPT software is basically a sim but without the visuals.You can takeoff and fly only a very specific profile going from A to B, and doing exactly what is on the script. Half the functions don't work and the other half work only if done in the proper sequence. You spend half the time blue-screening and re-booting the whole thing. And guess what, you can't start where you left off, you must start at the beginning of the script. You get one shot at the thing. There is no going around and diverting to a random airport, there is no deviating from the script.For this, the airline pays a sum in the 5 to 6 figures range, depending on the level of support (read - nonexistent).Or....they could have bought a real 737NG FTD off of me for half that price and it would be made from the real nose section of a 737 with real Boeing seats, throttles, controls,rudder pedals and everything works the same as the real plane.http://forum.avsim.n...hannon-ireland/Fred. Edited January 10, 201214 yr by RYR738 Frederic Steiner.
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