Zach is right if you like it that's great but it is almost impossible for me to understand how. The issue I have is that I've been using this forum for many years now and for the most part got some great help and ideas, so it does bother me when I see people claiming that a very poor product is some how good as this could not only could lead to wasting time and money for others but also sends out the wrong signals to developers.FS is a small world lets give the cash to the people who deserve it.

Edited February 15, 201214 yr by Sawyer

If you like it, I'm glad! But I don't,

If thats the case I may just have to Buy it. Much talking and no speaking devalues opinions.

If thats the case I may just have to Buy it. Much talking and no speaking devalues opinions.

HelloI was following along just fine till you said that.

If thats the case I may just have to Buy it. Much talking and no speaking devalues opinions.

Brilliant!

Edited February 16, 201214 yr by Sawyer

If thats the case I may just have to Buy it. Much talking and no speaking devalues opinions.

The pictures speak for themselves. Be my guest.

The Wilco 737 EVO 3D modelling and texturing is clearly and definitely one the worse I ever saw. Not a single doubt about it... Only Abacus does worse.I still have a HARD time believing they're actually selling it at that price... Really. I'd be ashamed if I was the 3D artist involved in this junk.And I'm one of those who who think version 1 looks better. The pictures above definitely speak for themselves.

Edited February 16, 201214 yr by Epikk

As far as I could see, the thread topic is on the Wilco CRJ and they are not even released yet. I fail to believe that other aircraft render you folks that happy when you feel the strong need to run every Wilco thread South, on a regular basis. However, I hope some of you guys are feeling better now. :smile:News on the Wilco or some other CRJ? Keep them coming. :(

I gotta say its very difficult the situation I don't want to offend the 3d modeler but some of us that have been hear for years and some are pilots engineers and people that work on the ramp with these planes all day when something becomes payware you expect the best possible for your money especially with the way the economy is around the world so people become more picky at the details and they should they work hard for there money, I admit I have been very disappointed in the 737 evo 3d model, I don't hate it and I think its cool that they put out that series but it could approve more.And the current crj model so far from the photos that have been posted for example if you look at the old 737 pic the modelling looks better then in v2 now if you compare the v1 and v2 model to say the good old fifty north 737 model now that model is very accurate nose wings everything and I honestly believe most people will I agree with me on that one as for the crj it needs improvement and so far from the photos the posky crj I believe is a better model also the aerosoft/DA model is very good when it comes to systems that's other story lol.

Edited February 16, 201214 yr by Silverbird

As far as I could see, the thread topic is on the Wilco CRJ and they are not even released yet. I fail to believe that other aircraft render you folks that happy when you feel the strong need to run every Wilco thread South, on a regular basis. However, I hope some of you guys are feeling better now. :(

Another one that thinks the opinions of customers should be stifled in the forums. You should run their product forums. Oh wait, they don't have any.That Wilco has produced junk since Feelthere has "left the picture" very much relates to a topic about an upcoming Wilco release... It seems silly having to remind you of that.Again, my opinion.

Edited February 16, 201214 yr by ZachLW

That Wilco has produced junk since Feelthere has "left the picture" very much relates to a topic about an upcoming Wilco release

HelloThere are another 20 million (according to Joshua) Flight enthusiasts arriving on the 29th of this month.They will need to know this stuff for when they graduate to FSX :(

Another one that thinks the opinions of customers should be stifled in the forums. You should run their product forums. Oh wait, they don't have any.

Zach, a man of your class and such emotions on a not yet released product, facing the same competition as every other one on the market? By the way, you shouldn't feel 'stifled' when somebody shows that strong words don't make good arguments and that personal preferences can be discussed to infinity. Is that news?I hope it's not too offensive to state that I like the 737 Evo, which this thread isn't about, and that I'm still looking forward to any CRJ release a dev may produce. At the end of the day, if the new CRJ would fail, one could still avoid it, right? No urgent need to get upset, especially when being happy with so many other planes in the sim. :(

Its easy to take something and put it into its worst light and then triumphantlysay "Its just there in the pictures", the flipping media do it all the time. So, whynot look at my pictures (sorry, not sure how to embed them, so they are indirect.First is version 1:http://i1003.photobucket.com/albums/af153/jfvogel/2012-2-15_20-53-12-713-1.jpgAnd now EVO:http://i1003.photobucket.com/albums/af153/jfvogel/2012-2-15_19-25-17-965.jpgNow compare a similar shot of the two VC, first the old one:http://i1003.photobucket.com/albums/af153/jfvogel/2012-2-15_19-29-33-926.jpgNotice the checklist on the yoke, see how you can't make it out, its called "two fewpixels" for the resolution.And now the new one:http://i1003.photobucket.com/albums/af153/jfvogel/2012-2-15_20-49-42-144.jpgNotice here you can make out the checklist quite crisply, also look at the instrumentssee the improved 3D nature of them, and how crisp they are. That's ALSO calledmore pixels.A good livery can make worlds difference I agree, I don't use BA and have no ideawho did it, if we got McPhat to do some liveries for these models they would make itstand out even more.Nevertheless, I stand by what I said, MORE pixels, clearly cockpit, and the SWAlivery looks improved to me, it also has sharper details by having the higher resolution.

Yeah... I gotta say the red color inside the engine cowling in the version 2 looks AMAZING... Very sharp and authentic.And that 3D cockpit rendition... Outstanding!Clearly a work of love from a payware company.

Edited February 16, 201214 yr by Epikk

Jeeze this poor thread really is getting off track, might as well put my $0.02 in as an owner of both the old and new.For anyone (other than Fritz and the other Wilco haters who have made up their minds :-) who's considering the Evo... yes the textures are pretty poor, but the modelling is on a par with the old one, and VC in particular is a lot better, as is the 2D panel. Systems detail wise its very similar to the original. Overall I'm happy, especially with the FPS which was pretty bad on the old model. Yes I would reccomend this, although I agree that it does seem a little over-priced.

The 737 Evo modeling is I think much better than the v1 737PIC. However, and that's what you see on those comparison shots, it's the texturing that is rather poor. For all I can see, the Evo model is overall more accurate, truer to life. There were so many things wrong about the v1 exterior model that I don't even quite know where to begin with the criticism.There wouldn't be that much difference between the posted shots if only the wings would have been photorealistic. I dare say that the Evo model would actually look much better than the v1 if that were the case. As a result, I have been contempl;ating to simply make my own tetxuring for VC and wings, but so far I didn't have the time.However, I'll maintain my opinion on 3D models: it's hard to form a good opinion on a 3D model from screenshots only, especially if they are the size of those on the Wilco product page. I find that to truly be able to comment on a 3D model, you need to own it, swivel the camera around it. Looking at 2D shots only just doesn't quite suffice; just doesn't do the 3D model real justice. I find this true for not only the exterior, but especially the VC. Once you "sit in it" and look around, you will be able to get a good impression of it. Otherwise, not so much, or a lot less, in anyway.