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Hi PMDG's Team !

 

Think you can reproduce this long boot sequence of the 777?

Initializations screenswith loudspeakers?

I love when a plane wakes, a long wake of more than 2 minutes.

 

Finally think you can reproduce the flickering screens?

 

 

Thank you for your response and to illustrate my claim here is the only video found on the web. Sorry about the poor quality.

 

 

Thank you and good luck for the finalization of this great product!

 

Best Regards !

 

 

Kevin

 

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnULDx6Cw2Y

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I personally don't want to sit there for more than 2 minutes staring at a screen waiting for the thing to initialize.

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They could make it a realism option then for those that wouldnt want to wait the 2 minutes. But that would be cool if they modelled it, add to the realism

 

 

Adam Kaleniak

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They could make it a realism option then for those that wouldnt want to wait the 2 minutes. But that would be cool if they modelled it, add to the realism

 

I agree. I know quite a few folks, including myself, who would just want to power it up and get going instead of having to wait.

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Interested in how many people actually use Cold and Dark. Doesn't matter to much to me, the Quick set up or whatever it's called is good also. I do a full scan of the Flight Deck before doing anything anyway. I think the IRS takes about 7 Minutes or so in the 777 which isn't bad.

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PMDG already has this option in the NGX, but for the IRS.

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PMDG already has this option in the NGX, but for the IRS.

 

I think it's more waiting a few minutes for the electrical system and the displays, not the IRS, to initialize.

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I would really want this start up sequence. My guess is that PMDG already have implemented a kind of "realistic" and "fast" start up and just laugh at this post

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For those who do not want this long boot, know that people like me who put at least one hour to prepare the flight plan, another to prepare the aircraft (when I dedicate myself to a flight it as A to Z, total immersion.)

 

So for me this kind of realism is a very good point.

 

PLEASE PMDG ! MAKE AN OPTION FOR PEOPLE LIKE ME !

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I think it would be a nice feature to have, when I am going to fly I take my time to prepare the flight plan, look at the weather, CG, TO thrust and everything.

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For those who do not want this long boot, know that people like me who put at least one hour to prepare the flight plan, another to prepare the aircraft (when I dedicate myself to a flight it as A to Z, total immersion.)

 

So for me this kind of realism is a very good point.

 

PLEASE PMDG ! MAKE AN OPTION FOR PEOPLE LIKE ME !

I to do about an hour of flight prep. especially on long hauls.

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My prep time is 10 minutes for long hauls and 5 for short hauls. I simply grab my route and fuel load then its off to do the cockpit preflight and I rarely do cold and dark, only if its first flight of the day.

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Long haul preparation takes 30 minutes for me, maybe longer for oceanic routes. Including many things like step climbs, fuel check points etc.

 

Total cockpit preparation takes close to this figure. Stored routes help making it shorter somewhat.

 

Would really like to have the most realistic option available.

 

BTW, really starting up a plane from cold and dark is possibly not used that frequently (rl pilots may give better info on that).

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Something else they should simulate is a torch via a hotkey and use your mouse to aim. The amount of times I have started cold and dark for an evening flight and struggled to find buttons until everything came on....

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Something else they should simulate is a torch via a hotkey and use your mouse to aim. The amount of times I have started cold and dark for an evening flight and struggled to find buttons until everything came on....

 

OOh F*** it's so true !!! Ahahahahah :P

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I don't know though, Cold & Dark isn't that realistic for Pilots. I believe if the Aircraft had an overnight or just been shutdown completely the engineers set the Flight Deck up. Or if it's on a turnaround then the previous crew power it down so much and prepare things & do some resets. But yeah would be cool to do it.

 

Yeah I'll agree, about an hour is my pre-flight at the Gate for Long Hauls. Here's my sequence if anyone's interested:

 

1. Load up the Aircraft, sometimes re-park it ha

2. Set up AES

3. Do a full scan of the Flight Deck and get everything in the correct position

4. Set my Fuel & Weight

5. FMC: Load Route > Pref Int > VNAV etc. Sometimes I put my ETOPS Alternates in the FIX page right from the Gate. (Can't wait to have 4 fix pages in the 777 rather than 2 I have in the 767 ha!)

6. Set up MCP with V2 Speed, RWY HDG, Initial Altitude

7. Flight Plan the route on Squawk Box

8. Quick brief, look over the SID and sometimes STAR if I have it (mainly for Short Haul) and arm LNAV/VNAV

9. Pray FSX doesn't quit after all that so quick Save

10. Get my ATC Clearance if any online >> Set Squawk.

11. Tell AES to prepare for Pushback >> Before Start Checklist

12. Pushback Clearance and off we go!

 

If I downloaded the Flight Plan the FMC takes about 10/15 minutes, if I'm entering the route about 20. It's like a routine for me so I've got quicker ha.

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Cold and dark is highly unrealistic for real crews, Luke is right - that's why we included the SHORT and LONG panel states for the NGX. They simulate what pilots would normally see at the start of their flights/sectors - even if it's the first flight of the day or something, the ground crews already take care of getting the plane up and running, the air inside warmed/cooled etc before the crew gets there.

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Cold and dark is highly unrealistic for real crews, Luke is right - that's why we included the SHORT and LONG panel states for the NGX. They simulate what pilots would normally see at the start of their flights/sectors - even if it's the first flight of the day or something, the ground crews already take care of getting the plane up and running, the air inside warmed/cooled etc before the crew gets there.

 

What?!? Nobody told me this! LOL. So which one is more accurate, SHORT or LONG?

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What?!? Nobody told me this! LOL. So which one is more accurate, SHORT or LONG?

 

I guess it depends, is it a quick turnaround from a domestic flight or is the flight sitting on the ground for a while in prep for a long haul turnaround. I start up from cold and dark once in awhile because its still neat to see how everything powers up and the sounds associated with it.

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All this time I've been flying the NGX I've used cold and dark... I thought it was the most realistic one.

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So what's the difference between short and long? Is it short as in short haul or the aircraft has been parked for a short period of time?

Apologies if I'm missing something I have just woken up :smile:

 

Rich

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True cold and dark is usually only used on overnight on outstation. If you have company mechs on site, long is indeed more likely...

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True cold and dark is usually only used on overnight on outstation. If you have company mechs on site, long is indeed more likely...

 

That or aircraft that are being stored at the hangar as a spare or waiting/wrapped up with mx. Whenever I do a ferry flight to move a spare I usually start at the hangar and cold/dark.

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