June 23, 201213 yr Hi! I love flightsim but I'm also 35 and at that age that I need to start trying to get married. My question is what kind of girl will marry a guy who plays flightsim. I really don't want to have to give up this hobby! So are any of you married and play flightsim. What does your wife think? Many thanks, Pierre
June 23, 201213 yr Well first of all, Flightsimming is not play! It's a serious hobby. My wife's principal complaint over the 16 years I've been at this has been jet noise in the house, particularly in a few of the places we lived where simming and living spaces adjoined each other. When I retired from the AF a few years back, I made sure that we got a house that would accomodate a dedicated sim room that met Stage III noise abatement restrictions! :Peace: But I've always been successful when pointing out what my peers spend (in both $$ and time) out golfing...or how much keeping my head up in the air by buying a real airplane would cost... Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
June 23, 201213 yr Of course flight simmers get married and their wives are very happy to be with one....here is a big reason why. Some girls marry a guy and he spends a lot of time hanging around pubs, going off to Soccer/football/rugby or whatever sport of choice and she is wondering where he is or what he is up to. A girls marry's a Flight Simmer and she knows exactly where he is.....he is in his den flying a PMDG 737 from Chicago to Detroit (the point if she doesn't have to worry about him). To be honest Flight Sim dudes are a good catch all things considered. <br />My wife's principal complaint over the 16 years I've been at this has been jet noise in the house, particularly in a few of the places we lived where simming and living spaces adjoined each other<br /> That is exactly what my girl complains about too. She hates the jet noises, but she actually takes part in my hobby from time to time by flying around in the Carenado 152. She is fascinated by the technology and the scenery, and likes visiting different places in the world she has been. Cheers Matthew Kane I'm Dyslexic, what's an error to you is not to me
June 23, 201213 yr Yes, simmers get married and our wives are just fine with it. But you do first have to find a suitable woman, and that won't happen sitting at your computer on a Friday night. So, in that regard, you will have to "give up" at least a part of your FS hobby so that you can go out and become more social. I would also suggest that you don't make Flight Simulation the center of your universe, nor would I suggest that it enter any part of your conversation on the first (or even the second or third) date. You need to learn what a woman is looking for in a man, but, even more importantly, what YOU are looking for in a woman. And that kind of learning takes much more than a web post on AVSIM can even begin to address. Best of luck, my friend. Smooth Skies! -- Chuck B. MACHINE 1:FS2004/WinXP Pro 64, Intel Core 2 Duo E8600 Clocked to 4.35 GHz, Corsair H50, Asus Maximus Formula, 4GB PNY XLR8 DDR2 @1067, ATI 4870 and 4650, WD Raptor 10K RPM 160 GB HD, Seagate 500 mgb 32mgb cache, 2 Analog 2HTGs w/ 3 19" I-INC flat panel monitors 1280x1024x32, and 1 17" at 1280 x 1024, PC Silencer 750 Quad, FSPassengers, FSUPIC, (Payware), WideFS MACHINE 2: Dell Dimension, P4, WideClient, FDC Live Cockpit, Pro Flight Emulator, Active Sky v6.5 MACHINE 3: ASUS u81A Laptop, Windows 7 (what a joke!), WideClient, FlightSim Commander
June 23, 201213 yr Being into flight simulators is not embarrassing, it demonstrates intelligence, curiosity and a thirst for knowledge and excitement, and if you are passionate about that, then it's a good conversation subject for any partner, because there will doubtless be things any girl you chat to is also passionate about. So why would any girl worth knowing not like these traits in a man? You don't have to know anything about a subject to admire and appreciate someone else's passion for it. Would you be interested in someone who had no passion in them? So if you are embarrassed to say what you are into hobby-wise with someone (providing it isn't ritually slaying goats or strangling kittens or some such), then they're probably a dull git and not the right person anyway. No subject should really be either taboo or embarrassing to discuss between two people who are considering spending the rest of their lives with one another. Thus the right partner for anyone, is the one who doesn't give a flying crap about what the other person's hobbies are, because they love the person for who they are and want them to be happy, rather than wanting to change them into something more convenient just to suit them. My wife actually bought me my Saitek rudder pedals by the way, and that is because she understands my passion for aeroplanes (both real and simulated) because she is equally passionate about animals. Consequently, when she told me yesterday that she was considering taking up dressage again and had booked a lesson at a stable, my answer was 'nice one'. I know she likes horses as much as I like aeroplanes, and I want her to do the things she enjoys, as she wants me to do the things I enjoy, because you need space in a relationship to do the thing you want to do, as well as to spending time with one another if it is to last. And just so you know, I've been married to her for 12 years, and we still tell each other we love one another, literally every day. Moreover, I know she is the right girl anyway, because her favourite aeroplane is the Mark IX Spitfire, and any girl who is that specific, and picks that one, is obviously the right girl to marry, because we all know that was the best Spitfire variant by a mile :Just Kidding: Al Alan Bradbury Check out my youtube flight sim videos: Here
June 23, 201213 yr Al, I ride dressage too, amazing sport. Thinking I'm going to ride and fly as my two careers :). If you think about it there's a lot in common between dressage and flying, both require lots of precision and patience among other things. Anyway I agree that if that is what you enjoy then your wife won't mind. If she does your probably not the best match, she shouldn't try to change you. If its right she'll just be happy with/for you. Best Lee Sent using Tapatalk
June 23, 201213 yr I've been flight simming since the Timex Sinclair ZX81 (see for both a demonstration of simming on the Timex and a look at how far we've come), and I've been married for 20 years, so yes, flight simmers do get married. What kind of woman is my wife? She's intelligent, articulate, and open-minded about my flight sim addiction. Besides, it's cheaper than her hobby: jewellery. :-) Joel Murray @ CYVR (actually, somewhere about halfway between CYNJ and CZBB)
June 23, 201213 yr Yes, simmers do get married. But if they don't find a proper balance, they also get divorced*! * Not me, luckily...
June 23, 201213 yr If you think about it there's a lot in common between dressage and flying, both require lots of precision and patience among other things. Well, most armies of old would probably have agreed with you in the early days of flight, they all pretty much favoured cavalrymen as the best candidates for piloting initially. It doesn't always hold water as a theory though, Manfred Von Richthofen was a superb horseman and originally an Uhlan Lieutenant before he was a pilot, he was very keen on steeplechasing and hunting on horseback, but apparently was not the best at landing. His success as a fighter pilot was more to do with his love of hunting and skill at shooting than anything else. The armies favouring horsemen as flyers was probably a lot to do with the choice simply involving officers and elite units more than common footslogging squaddies, although some of the reason would doubless have been because reconnaissance was a traditional cavalry role. Because that was so however, originally the pilot would indeed have been of a lower rank and the observer was usually the officer, with pilots generally regarded as little more than oily aerial chauffeurs much of the time, whilst the observer told him where to go. It was only when those oily chauffers started becoming superstars in WW1 for having shot down enemy aeroplanes in single seaters that officers wanted to start driving the aeroplanes themselves, since the best fighters were all single seaters. That was certainly Richthofen's motivation to get out of the observer/gunner seat and into the Fokker Eindecker and Albatros DII. But even so, the fact that pilots sit on the left side of the aircraft is genuinely a legacy of an equestrian connection, since as you know, one traditionally mounts a horse from the left hand side, supposedly in order not to compromise your weapon hand although I think it is probably more to do with the position of scabbards myself. Anyway, whatever the reason, initially when armies were still very stuffy about that kind of protocol, it carried though to how pilots used to climb aboard aircraft. US Army regulations even specified that pilots were not to wear spurs in their aircraft at one point. Al Alan Bradbury Check out my youtube flight sim videos: Here
June 23, 201213 yr When I got married 9 years ago I gave up real-world flying because it seemed that a solo hobby that took up lots of my spare time and all my spare money wasn't fair on the lucky Mrs Tim. Simming, OTOH, takes up all my spare time and virtually none of my spare money, and that pleases her no end.
June 23, 201213 yr Yes. I got married in April. It's nothing to do with FS, it's a question of balance. We have things we do together - travel, socialising, pubs, restaurants, cinema, cycling, etc - and things we do seperately - for me football and FS, for the wife - her academic work. But you won't get yourself a nice lady locked in a small room playing computer games :-) Gavin Barbara Over 10 years here and AVSIM is still my favourite FS site :-)
June 23, 201213 yr I'd answer your question, but my wife is yelling at me to pause the sim as dinner is ready. _________________________________ -Dan Everette CFI, CFII, MEI 7900X OC @ 4.8GHz | ASRock Fatal1ty X299 Professional | 2 x EVGA GTX 1080 Ti FTW3 (SLI) | 32GB G.Skill DDR4 2800
June 23, 201213 yr I'd answer your question, but my wife is yelling at me to pause the sim as dinner is ready. :LMAO: HowardMSI Mag B650 Tomahawk MB, Ryzen7-7800X3D CPU@5ghz, Arctic AIO II 360 cooler, Nvidia RTX4090 GPU, 32gb DDR5@6000Mhz, SSD/2Tb+SSD/500Gb+OS, Corsair 1000W PSU, LG Ultragear 48"4K, MFG Crosswinds, TQ6 Throttle, Fulcrum One YokeMy FlightSim YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@skyhigh776
June 23, 201213 yr Hi! Many thanks for the replies. Maybe there is hope after all. I guess it's just finding the right woman. I know where I probably won't find her though, at an FS convention! Many thanks, Pierre
June 23, 201213 yr Yes, simmers get married and our wives are just fine with it. But you do first have to find a suitable woman, and that won't happen sitting at your computer on a Friday night. So, in that regard, you will have to "give up" at least a part of your FS hobby so that you can go out and become more social. I would also suggest that you don't make Flight Simulation the center of your universe, nor would I suggest that it enter any part of your conversation on the first (or even the second or third) date. You need to learn what a woman is looking for in a man, but, even more importantly, what YOU are looking for in a woman. And that kind of learning takes much more than a web post on AVSIM can even begin to address. Best of luck, my friend. Might be better to leave off mentioning it until after the honeymoon :LMAO: The problem is that so many people don't differentiate between computer sims and games, and regard either as an indicator of personal weirdness. Incidentally my good lady & myself have been happily unmarried for 40-odd years and she has no problem at all with my FS habit -- has even bought me add-ons.
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