If you use AT&T, Cablevision, Comcast, Time Warner Cable, or Verizon and you pirate stuff, you may recieve a warning from your ISP in the future.

 

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/10/18/tech/web/copyright-alert-system/

This will be great for VPN providers. We got something like this here in NZ last year but it's just pushing people to use VPNs and other IP hiding/packet encrypting services.

Yup. more useless escalation and unintended consequences leading to yet more escalation, and round and round we go!

 

Pass the popcorn, please.

 

By the way, Kim Dotcom is expected to be debuting a Megaupload replacement soon that will be making use of Encryption/VPN technologies this time.

 

Did I mention round and round we go? :unsure:

I use a VPN so I don't care.

I remember trading 5.5"Floppy's around the school yard when I was 13 years old (back around 1985). This was piracy before the internet, but when we were 13 we didn't realize that as we were just trading copies of things like Montezuma's Revenge or Lode Runner, etc. Hard to stop it then, even harder to stop it now.

 

I actually don't pirate anymore so not worried about these new rules.

The thing that scares me when they use automated software to detect these things, are false positives. I could just picture getting these alerts for watching something on Netflix or HULU!

The thing that scares me when they use automated software to detect these things, are false positives. I could just picture getting these alerts for watching something on Netflix or HULU!

This is what I think. Also, I wouldn't like my ISP tracking what I do, that's just a violation of privacy.

What seriously bothers me is they use a phrase like, monitoring sites "like" BitTorrent, but don't actually name sites. For all we know they could just randomly monitor your every move.

 

This is the kind of allowed legislation that I hate. It is just one more step to a government approved Internet. They go hand in hand, monitoring and just watching is a super super fine line, and unfortunately, the American government is not good at walking that line. Usually it is always to one side or the other.

What seriously bothers me is they use a phrase like, monitoring sites "like" BitTorrent, but don't actually name sites. For all we know they could just randomly monitor your every move.

 

And they will. What's even more disturbing is the fact that even worse laws have been introduced into countries that have signed recent trade agreements with the US at their bequest. I call it being "Saviled".

Wow. I'd love when one of these then happen. 1) People pick other providers. 2) People hide themselves by using VPN and things, making it even harder to investigate. 3) People receive wrong warnings, because the automation rendered them pirates.

 

Lets look how other countries handle things. Take France. Hadopi, their 'warning' system. They lately had their first case of a guy exceeding all levels.So it took only 2 years of getting that one guy. This is great, because, in the meantime, they had an eye on every French Internet user. So when they now write French anti-P2P agency Hadopi likely to get shut down, I'm not really surprised.

 

So this must be another breakthrough on the dreaded topic. Same as the other 20 breakthroughs we had since the Internet came up. Wait, fighting symptoms didn't help so far, right? And the companies know that, right? Then why.. oh, never mind. :unsure:

 

Oh, I forgot, a very neutral setup of course. :wacko:

The entire system will be overseen by an organization called the Center for Copyright Information, which includes content owners, such as the Motion Picture Association of America and Recording Industry Association of America, as well as individual members including Disney, Sony Pictures, Fox, EMI and Universal.

So where the French at least introduced a governmental agency, you are now being watched by the industry itself.

So where the French at least introduced a governmental agency, you are now being watched by the industry itself.

 

That's what I was thinking as well. Also noting that the ISP's are now frightened enough to cave on this issue, when they have been resisting for years. This encourages the web to fight back with expanding its use of things like HTTPS everywhere. Though will even VPN's confer privacy when things like this can happen?

 

https://www.bof.nl/2012/10/18/dutch-proposal-to-search-and-destroy-foreign-computers/

 

Meanwhile, after the defeat of NAFTA, CETA is sneaking along trying to resurect some of the same proposals by a different name.

 

It's a mess out there.

Meanwhile, after the defeat of NAFTA, CETA is sneaking along trying to resurect some of the same proposals by a different name.

Good point. And two questions arise. Well, at least two. First, will the 'wear them off' tactic succeed? Since the critics don't run full-time lobbyist centres, but only form up after their working hours, it may actually. :mellow: Not to mention that there already are agreements in place, which were established well before people became a bit more aware. The WTO and their TRIPS are an old friend for example.

 

Secondly, who, in a democratic process and organization, actually places all those fancy ideas in the heads of political leaders when the main problems of the people are taking place far far away from any piracy concerns? Not saying that piracy is harmless, but I really wonder why it should now lead to all US citizens being watched and their presumption of innocence being turned around. Even more so when the only committee ruling the new game is the industry itself and not a governmental (ruled and controlled) organization.

 

The last time they were on a big piracy thing was the Megaupload case where they not only harmed the folks sharing legal items on that platform but also showed how rushed and, when looking at the current outcome, ill-advised authorities can behave.

 

Besides, nobody seems to be concerned about patent trolls these days.

." For all we know they could just randomly monitor your every move."

 

 

LOL thats the only reason they let plebeians like us have the internet !

Beside all those things counted, there is no effective way to stop piracy. The whole concept of "internet" is so that you can't prevent piracy. The only way would be to change the concept of the whole internet... in other words, impossible.

 

Those who say "I never pirated, or I don't pirate": you never ever downloaded a song from internet? you never downloaded a picture from some website that says in watermark "copyrighted"? I know I did, maybe even by mistake...

 

The best measures are direct measures by software developers. Some more successful, some less... but everything engineered is possible to reverse-engineer.

 

Oh I remember the old days in school, exchanging 3,5inch floppies with Tie Fighter. 5 pcs needed ;-)

 

PS. I do not condone to piracy. Just stating the obvious and current state.

Beside all those things counted, there is no effective way to stop piracy.

 

There's no effective way stop to theft - otherwise prisons wouldn't be full of thieves. So let's not bother?