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Internet Providers to Begin Warning Customers that Pirate

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This is how our justice system works. Innocent people are convicted in court for crimes they did not do.

 

There is no court involved here. Your ISP sees torrent traffic on your account and then shuts you down, possibly blacklisting you so you can't sign up with another ISP.

 

I'll ask again - if your neighbour hacked your wireless network and used it to illegally download music or movies, your ISP shut down your account and blacklisted you with other ISPs would you be so blase about the whole matter? What if it wasn't even someone using your wireless network without your permission? What if you were using P2P networks for legitimate purposes?

Nick

There is no court involved here. Your ISP sees torrent traffic on your account and then shuts you down, possibly blacklisting you so you can't sign up with another ISP.

I do not know in what lawless country you live .. but in my country .. what you write is impossible ..

Only a court could impose such a decision to an ISP

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Or how can a major developer protect unique, groudbreaking code without a patent?

 

Through a trade secret, of course.

 

Face it, there's very little truly unique ground-breaking code out there and in a world where a new simulator came out every two or three years, your code would be obsolete by the time the patent was granted. Most software patents are utter bunk, and the only reason corporations file them nowadays is as a defense mechanism.

 

Cheers!

 

Luke

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When I was in school, the book 1984 (and Animal Farm) were required reading, and the perpetual surveillance of "Big Brother" was considered a bad thing.

 

Its so strange to me how many people now practically invite surveillance in for dinner.

 

I predict right now that it this have the same effect as the harsher french equivalent: An initial drop in P2P use as the initial notices are received, then a few months as users adjust, followed by an upswing (like in France) as users start to find their way around these new barriers.

 

The right-holders will have (again!) created a new generation of even smarter and more resourceful pirates, and people who use (and need) torrents for legitimate purposes will follow in the wake of all the new tech that will be developed to hide and obfuscate said torrents.

 

Then the right-holders will be back shrieking that "something needs to be done" again.

 

Rinse and repeat.

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Good point on the 'great success' and outcome of the French model, Devon.

 

Well, at least it was/is mainly under governmental control. So this differs from just some companies teaming up and defining what is right and what is wrong. Seems like some forget about the principles at times. A state under the rule of law not under the ruling of industrial lobbies. Well, in theory. ^_^

I do not know in what lawless country you live .. but in my country .. what you write is impossible ..

Only a court could impose such a decision to an ISP

 

What I described was exactly what was being proposed by some parties in the UK a year or two ago.

Nick

it seems to me that those major providers are violating the users privacy. Because the only way they can know what you are uploading or downloading is looking in to your files, amd those files are private.

[compare this to ordinary mail]

The network should be free of interference of anybody [just as a road, where the highway "provider"has nothing to say about what is transported over this road that's police business] By doing what they are doing these big providers are talking the seats of judges, while in the same time steeling information from their users for the benefit of the big industries. Meanly the music industry. A industry that still believes we are linving in the sixties.

Overall what is happening at the moment is a great danger to the freedom of the internet,

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Correction to my above post: I meant to type "This will have" :blush:

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"Every tool we provide, even the idea itself of having any police at all, will ALWAYS result in innocent people being convicted who otherwise would not."

 

Hmm. So much for the Blackstone formulation then (better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer).

mega.co.nz is now launched. I was curious but couldn't get onto it, perhaps there is a DoS attack on it. Here is a local news report about it:

 

http://www.stuff.co....ches-Mega-co-nz

Matthew Kane

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That, now, New Zealand citizen is a miracle. I absolute don't allow him to come in like the Internet hero he tries to promote himself, but I do raise my hat for for that 'and another round' approach. I mean they've really busted him back then, right?

 

Well, lets see how his actual lawsuit turns out, against the US, no! FBI or erm.. whatever. ^_^

 

So much for the Blackstone formulation then (better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer).

Wouldn't be the first time or even the first 'war' where the presumption of innocence is turned around and everybody sooner or later is declared guilty. But at least suspicious. Just for being there.

 

As long as people just let their governments rule and don't demand for at least proper and true explanations, this trend will continue. Even worse, the new style of ruling, without governmental control. Companies building committees and then setting up their own 'laws'. <_<

That, now, New Zealand citizen is a miracle

 

Not a citizen....he is a Permanent Resident. He has to stay here for another 3.5 years to become a citizen. If he does get extradited to the USA he will lose his Permanent Residency and all status due to abandonment.

Matthew Kane

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Right you are. Wrong word in my sentence. Is there some inauguration event by the way?

Is there some inauguration event by the way?

 

Yes there is, basically you have to give the oath to the Queen, Same goes for any commonwealth nation. It is possible that by the time he has to give his oath it will be King Charles. :LMAO:

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