/\ /\ /\ ... I think a lot of people are trying to help this guy, but I don't think he's listening to the replies or the explanations of how OAT and Assumed (FLEX) temps influence the N1 value.

 

To some people, if it doesn't work the way they expect it to, "it's a bug".

 

And thats the reason I locked the thread, because its solved as its working as it should (though not what he believes).

EDIT:

 

This is a nice read for people starting to fly with the Airbus:

 

http://ryanthepilot....rbus-pilot.html

 

"How can you tell an Airbus pilot? (S)he's the one who says, What's it doing now?

 

How can you tell an experienced Airbus pilot? (S)he's the one who says, It's doing that again!"

 

 

Thank you very much for that link! Pretty useful read for beginners

Installed Hotfix 1 to deal with ND issues, it has messed up my joystick

 

Other aircraft work perfectly fine but when I load the AXE my joystick does not work and does not even show up in the FSX controls menu

 

For some reason I cannot post a topic on the Aerosoft forum

 

Any help? :(

N1 at 85% is NOT enough at KSAN even with 1/2 load!

 

OK, I think (or at least I hope) I now know what the real problem is. You are having hard time getting into the air

 

I collected all the data that I could find from your post.

 

You are departing from KSAN, with half a load, using default FSX weather. Flaps 1 takeoff with N1: 86.9 and N2: 100.3.

 

I did a test flight with the following parameters.

 

KSAN runway 27. WInds 0 knots, temperature +15.

 

With half of everything, (pax, cargo, fuel), I got a takeoff weight: 145 300lbs.

 

I did a TOGA takeoff (with 0.8 nose up trim as requested by the MCDU) and the A320 took off with about 1000ft of runway left. This is my estimate from the fact that RAAS announced "300m" just before liftoff.

 

I then fed the same numbers to Topcat and here's the results:

 

N1: 89.2

V1, VR, V2: 133-141, 141, 144

Expected runway margin: 3900ft

 

Well then. What we can see is that the Airbus Extended is eating more runway that the Topcat version of A320 would have.

 

AXE TOGA performance equaled Topcat's FLEX +61 takeoff with flaps 1 config.

 

I'm not sure how close AXE's and Topcat's A320s are ment to match each other.

 

Cheers,

 

Jarkko

And thats the reason I locked the thread, because its solved as its working as it should (though not what he believes).

It was NOT solved as you well Know. That is a direct lie sir! I still have a NON functioning throttle for the 21 but I done with you. All you did was to tell me it doesn't work with FSUIPC

 

"This guy" was asked to post screenshots, which I duly did but it was NOT solved. If you're going to attack me, then PLEASE, at least be honest and factual!

 

I will not be responding any further.

 

OK, I think (or at least I hopeI now know what the real problem is. You are hard time getting in the air

 

I collected all the data that I could find from your post.

 

You are departing from KSAN, with half a load, using default FSX weather. Flaps 1 takeoff with N1: 86.9 and N2: 100.3.

 

I did a test flight with the following parameters.

 

KSAN runway 27. WInds 0 knots, temperature +15.

 

With half of everything, (pax, cargo, fuel), I got a takeoff weight: 145 300lbs.

 

I did a TOGA takeoff (with 0.8 nose up trim as requested by the MCDU) and the A320 took of with about 1000ft of runway left.

 

I then fed the same numbers to Topcat and here's the results:

 

N1: 89.2

V1, VR, V2: 133-141, 141, 144

Expected runway margin: 3900ft

 

Well then. What we can see is that the Airbus Extended is eating more runway that the Topcat version of A320 would have.

 

AXE TOGA performance equaled a FLEX +61 takeoff with flaps 1 config.

 

I'm not sure how close the AXE and Topcat A320s are to each other.

 

Cheers,

 

Jarkko

Thank you, that came in while I was typing the previous one.

I think the horizontal navigation (LNAV) is very stupid.

 

With this add-on, I get 0.01 nm of accuracy while other aircrafts turn around of 0.50 nm...

 

Look this pictures :

 

737 NGX - PMDG

A320 - Aerosoft

Bae146 - QualityWings :

 

Wilco A320 :

Aerosoft A320 :

 

 

a+ ^_^

 

 

By default, the Aerosoft Extended Airbus will automatically set the FLEX temp to 67 degrees C, unless you, the pilot, set it to a lower number.

 

When you start on the runway threshold using the "Ready for Takeoff" situation file, BEFORE advancing the throttles, open the PERF TAKEOFF page in the MCDU and check the number adjacent to FLEX TO.

 

 

Hmmmm ok when opening PERF TAKEOFF page in the MCDU with the "Ready for Takeoff" situation file, none of the entries are filled in. I tried entering a FLEX temp of 30, but still run out of runway at KSAN and KLAX. I could get airborne by continuing on and trampling over some houses, but now with Tacpac installed I now end up in a fiery ball of wreckage lol. So what's the quick and dirty method to get enough power for takeoff. I use to have the PSS A320 down pat, but it's been so many years ago my aging brain has forgotten it all. I will be studying the tutorial over the holiday weekend coming up, but for right now would just like enough power on takeoff not to kill myself and everyone on board lol

Hello!

 

Three things come to mind how a user might cause this kind of situation:

 

1) Extremely high cost index

 

2) Almost reaching stall (the alpha floor like you mentioned). Planes takes over if you get near a stall (retract the flaps too early for example)

 

3) Using open climb (throttles wide open and using pitch to control speed), when you actually wanted to use managed climb.

 

For a successful takeoff (with MCDU programmed correctly) you should check your FCU against the Airbus drivers mantra: dash-ball-dash-ball-alt-ball-dash (mentioned in the Step-By-Step flight tutorial)

 

Hope this makes your flight more enjoyable!

 

EDIT:

 

This is a nice read for people starting to fly with the Airbus:

 

http://ryanthepilot....rbus-pilot.html

 

"How can you tell an Airbus pilot? (S)he's the one who says, What's it doing now?

 

How can you tell an experienced Airbus pilot? (S)he's the one who says, It's doing that again!"

 

Thank you.

 

A very nice article...

 

Manny

 

I find the autothrust on the A320 fascinating. I did two types of landing (non Cat auto land. Both Visual landing)

 

1) I was lined up on final and at 2300 AGL (Juliana Intl..no ILS) Just visual landing,

 

I had the Throttle in detend CL. I pulled the throttle level to Idle and the AThr automatically switched off. So I basically got the control. I then increased the throttle as much as I wanted and pull back as much as I wanted just like a regular thorottle that we are all familiar with..provided I don't increase the throttle to be on any of the other detends like CL and above, then the AThrl would take over...

 

I managed to land it nicely just like any other aircraft we are familar with.

 

2) Same situation as 1. lined up on final and at 2300 AGL (Juliana Intl..no ILS) Just visual landing,

 

I left the throttle in detend CL. and set my speed on the MCP at 150kt and right clicked (Pull out the knob). (I think I may have pulled the throttle back to idle and put it back on CL again..not sure).

 

This time, Auththrust managed the speed 150kt ver welll. If I was two low,, I just nosed up and the I saw the N1 go up and if I was too high I just pushed the nose down and the N1 went down to maintain the 150kts. I did all this way to 50 feet AGL at the prompt I retarded the thrust to Idle and landed nicely again.

 

MAnny

hate this so much. I want to fly this plane so bad. I bought this the day it came out, and only had time to sit in the VC for about 20 mins, and just randomly fly around. My job has absolutely no respect for my addiction and does not allot me enough time to commit to it until this weekend.

 

+1. Same for me- but interesting to read these forums (this thread in particular) to see what others are finding and get some idea of what the causes are- seems in many cases it's the Airbus technology that's different and unexpected...

 

Thanks, Bruce.

Another thing I've noticed is when switching camera views with EZDOK using either joystick or keyboard shortcuts, I have to hit the button/key twice to get it to switch views.

 

Hi, I have also noticed this when setting up wing views, however have not had time to investigate this- it could be connected to the Extended's own view system, not sure....

 

Thanks, Bruce.

The 'bus will still vary the N1 used for TOGA according to a number of factors, including actual OAT.

 

I honestly don't think the FLEX or N1 calcs are off. But I do believe the V speeds are way off, especially V2.

 

People who perceive that the aircraft is not delivering enough N1 (under TOGA or FLEX), or who are getting close to stall / Alpha Lock on initial climb out, try using an artificially higher V2 value in the PERF page of the MCDU.

 

.... I suggest trying 175.

 

Also, the F/O has retracted flaps too early on a couple of my flights, which almost caused A.Locks. This, and the V speeds I believe, are bugs.

 

So until they are fixed, my F/O has been sacked off from Flaps duty! :lol:

 

Raul, I suggest you consider retraining your F/O.

@ Shane

The paintkit can be used for all models , taking care ofcourse to use the correct model . Major difference is located in the AFT & WANNE sections where the NEO " sharklets " are located . Also placing AirbusX paints in the Extended version requires new VC textures and removal of the PLASTIC KNOBS textures . Also copy the texture.cfg from am original Extended texture .

 

John Glanville

 

Enter foot in mouth mode :

Have now checked the pain(t)kit ( had only used the VC kit until now ) to discover that Aerosoft have only included the ( original ) A320 paintkit (with original readme ) with CFM engines and only " added " the sharklet layers . To paint the A320 IAE and A321 CFM / IAE versions it seems you will have to buy the original AirbusX .

 

John Glanville

I think the horizontal navigation (LNAV) is very stupid.

 

With this add-on, I get 0.01 nm of accuracy while other aircrafts turn around of 0.50 nm...

 

Look this pictures :

 

737 NGX - PMDG

A320 - Aerosoft

Bae146 - QualityWings :

 

Wilco A320 :

Aerosoft A320 :

 

 

a+ ^_^

 

Hummm, I don't believe you; you are still a future owner of PMDG 737NGX.

Yes I know but if there was an error in the nav display, you just cancel managed mode and fly it as you should.. You should never (in my opinion) expect to rely totally on a computer which is prone to these glitches anyway. I personally enjoy having to intervene I these things manually its more fun

 

 

 

Absolutely agree!

 

And I'm sure the poster was aware of that and of the same opinion. He was merely pointing out a bug that required fixing.

Well so be it. I already explained nicely that FSUIPC is of limited support (User Configuration in FSUIPC not Aerosoft Configuration).

 

As much as as you deserve support as you are a paying customer, you took my reply as sarcasm and try to paint it as my fault for your OWN UNSUPPORTED CONFIGURATION. I tried my best to help you but since you did not appreciate my attempt to help then so be it. I just find myself so stupid for even bothering to try to replicate your unsupported configuration.

 

Joshua,

Please don't call yourself "stupid" -- you're not! We understand you tried your best to help in an educated manner. I believe these things we are seeing is showing that the new Airbus Extended is NOT a "light" simulation of Airbus 320. Yes, FSX has it's limitations, and the Airbus is by far more complex than a Boeing a/c..so much different. We are so use to fly the 500 plus Boeing out there that we automatically assume that all these flying "animals" are equal. And, No! An eagle is so much different from a goose. :lol: (man, me and my humor, huh?)

 

By-the-way Joshua, on the "reverse thrust" I noticed that the original Airbus X was very effective once you hit the reverse thrust. However, on this new version the effectiveness (slowing the airplane), seems very low. Is this an a/c configuration issue or is it an actual "bug" and will be fixed later? I'm concerned as the difference between the 2 versions is very wide.