January 24, 201313 yr <br />Auotgen COMPLEXITY to EXTREMELY DENSE<br /> SCENERY COMPLEXITY to EXTREMELY DENSE All you are doing is confusing new users who may be lurking on this thread. What some of us are trying to tell you is call the complexity setting by it's correct name that is in the sim. Scenery complexity. No big deal to me, but to a new user, it maybe. System: MSFS2024, ASUS Rog Stryx Z790-A, Intel i9-14900KF, Asus ROG Ryujin III 360 , Asus Hyperion Case,Rog Stryx 4090 OC, Samsung 970 EVO M.2 SSD, 1Tb Samsung 860 EVO SSD,64Gb G Skill Memory, Asus Aura 1200W Gold PSU,Win 11 ,LG C4 48" 4K OLED Screen., Airbus TCA Full Kit, Stream Deck XL. WinWing FCU, EFIS, MCDU
January 24, 201313 yr Hey I've been using FS/FSX since 1989 and I still went hunting for the "Autogen Complexity" slider!
January 24, 201313 yr Auotgen COMPLEXITY to EXTREMELY DENSE Autogen DENSITY to NORMAL Ok just go into your Scenery configuration - there is no such slider as "Autogen Complexity" so this is a bit confusing. There is Scenery Complexity and Autogen Density and it sounds like you are recommending setting Scenery Complexity to Extremely Dense and Autogen Density to Normal. For me this is kinda lame because setting Autogen to Normal means very few buildings around. But sadly it is necessary to avoid OOMs.
January 24, 201313 yr Auotgen COMPLEXITY to EXTREMELY DENSE Autogen DENSITY to NORMAL There's no such thing as "Autogen Complexity". I guess you mean "Scenery Complexity". Go take a look at the FSX settings again.
January 24, 201313 yr But sadly it is necessary to avoid OOMs. I've never gotten an OOM, even with Scenery Complexity and Autogen Density set to max. Of course, I fly default scenery (you'd be surprised how good it looks with both sliders maxed), and usually simpler aircraft, although I don't have problems with the Carenado C337, the Dodosim 206 Jetranger, or the A2A B377 Stratocruiser. If I set Autogen Density to max I get graphics spikes from the trees, but not all the time. It does add a few types of buildings that you won't see without it, so for low and slow flying it's worth it. I did not manually edit any of the other settings in the config file, so LOD is at 4.5, for example. I was getting random crashes in several modules up until November, but never an OOM, and the crashes are gone for the moment. It may have something to do with the default flight; when the crashes stopped I'd switched the default flight to a different aircraft and a different airport. No guarantee this will help you, but if your default flight is the NGX at KSEA, you might want to try something different... I suspect the airport made the biggest difference in my case, even though it was a simple one, as I was getting crashes there no matter what the aircraft was in the default flight. Currently flying the B377 with Autogen Density set one notch below max. Can't see much from 20,000 feet anyway, and during takeoff and landing I'm too busy to look for churches, etc. Hook Larry Hookins Oh! I have slipped the surly bonds of EarthAnd danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings;
January 24, 201313 yr I think my brain is out of memory after reading this later part of the thread. Where's a flock of geese when you need one.
January 24, 201313 yr Commercial Member I've never gotten an OOM, even with Scenery Complexity and Autogen Density set to max. Of course, I fly default scenery (you'd be surprised how good it looks with both sliders maxed), and usually simpler aircraft, although I don't have problems with the Carenado C337, the Dodosim 206 Jetranger, or the A2A B377 Stratocruiser. If I set Autogen Density to max I get graphics spikes from the trees, but not all the time. It does add a few types of buildings that you won't see without it, so for low and slow flying it's worth it. I did not manually edit any of the other settings in the config file, so LOD is at 4.5, for example. I was getting random crashes in several modules up until November, but never an OOM, and the crashes are gone for the moment. It may have something to do with the default flight; when the crashes stopped I'd switched the default flight to a different aircraft and a different airport. No guarantee this will help you, but if your default flight is the NGX at KSEA, you might want to try something different... I suspect the airport made the biggest difference in my case, even though it was a simple one, as I was getting crashes there no matter what the aircraft was in the default flight. Currently flying the B377 with Autogen Density set one notch below max. Can't see much from 20,000 feet anyway, and during takeoff and landing I'm too busy to look for churches, etc. Hook That is so correct, Hook... I just finished re-installing FSX due to some file corruptions and I have done a clean DX10 install of it and the only thing I added was FSUIPC... With EVERYTHING full right (scenery tab), it looks amazing. Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2 Regards, Efrain RuizLiveDISPATCH @ http://www.livedispatch.org (CLOSED) ☹️
January 24, 201313 yr With EVERYTHING full right (scenery tab), it looks amazing. I saw a video recently of Orbx PNW and I kept wondering, "How the heck did they get FSX to do THAT!?" If I ever actually flew anywhere that Orbx made scenery for I'd certainly consider it. But I'd figure that some tradoffs would have to be made before I ever made the purchase decision. If you're flying anywhere else, you've got default scenery. And for the most part, it's pretty good. And with the sliders cranked up, there's plenty to look at. Hm. Maybe if I tweaked the tree density manually, I could get rid of the spikes and still get the special buildings... Hook Larry Hookins Oh! I have slipped the surly bonds of EarthAnd danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings;
January 24, 201313 yr Commercial Member I saw a video recently of Orbx PNW and I kept wondering, "How the heck did they get FSX to do THAT!?" If I ever actually flew anywhere that Orbx made scenery for I'd certainly consider it. But I'd figure that some tradoffs would have to be made before I ever made the purchase decision. If you're flying anywhere else, you've got default scenery. And for the most part, it's pretty good. And with the sliders cranked up, there's plenty to look at. Hm. Maybe if I tweaked the tree density manually, I could get rid of the spikes and still get the special buildings... Hook How you have your vehicles slider? Too many vehicles will also give you autogen spiking. Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2 Regards, Efrain RuizLiveDISPATCH @ http://www.livedispatch.org (CLOSED) ☹️
January 24, 201313 yr You know. After reading through the various posts it just proves you can talk and explain until you're blue in the face. Some folks just never grasp what VAS really is. BTW. I used a red bowling ball once and when I got home I had an OOM error. Next time I used a blue one and didn't have any issues. So this prived thay using a red bowling ball causes OOM problems.... Al Stiff
January 24, 201313 yr I saw a video recently of Orbx PNW and I kept wondering, "How the heck did they get FSX to do THAT!?" If I ever actually flew anywhere that Orbx made scenery for I'd certainly consider it. But I'd figure that some tradoffs would have to be made before I ever made the purchase decision. If you're flying anywhere else, you've got default scenery. And for the most part, it's pretty good. And with the sliders cranked up, there's plenty to look at. Hm. Maybe if I tweaked the tree density manually, I could get rid of the spikes and still get the special buildings... Hook Problem is, the limited amount textures and objects get repetitive fast if you fly often. It's OK for wilderness areas, but the small towns, farms and cities all look the same after a while. But then again, I've been using FSX since it came out in 2006 and have spent a few 1000 hours barnstorming the default scenery. For a typical gamer spending 20-50 hours on each game that isn't much of a problem. Simmerhead - Making the virtual skies unsafe since 1987!
January 24, 201313 yr Problem is, the limited amount textures and objects get repetitive fast if you fly often. It's OK for wilderness areas, but the small towns, farms and cities all look the same after a while Well that, but in most areas (think "flyover states" for example) there's also so much missing or wrong. Rivers, lakes, major roads, small to medium towns missing or misplaced. And as a lover of wilderness areas, well... forget about it. Take the Colorado Plateau country, for example. It's almost featureless. All this makes VFR flight by pilotage pretty tough in many areas with nothing but default scenery. As always, it's a matter of what's important to the individual. I chose good scenery, airports and wx because these things are really important to me. I fly GA, so even my best planes aren't huge resource hogs so I catch a break there, and choose to give up airline AI, limit GA AI and don't use auto traffic at all. I keep autogen down a notch, and don't go hog-wild with LOD, though it is "above the line". And so on... Tradeoffs. To some, these would be horrible tradeoffs but they're acceptable to me. But if you've reached the point where you're getting OOMs, there's a pretty good chance you're going to have to cut back somewhere. BTW. I used a red bowling ball once and when I got home I had an OOM error. Next time I used a blue one and didn't have any issues. So this prived thay using a red bowling ball causes OOM problems.... Love it! Scott
January 24, 201313 yr UK2000 says it all. Very demanding of any CPU. I get same thing when I use UK2000 sceneries.
January 24, 201313 yr Some folks just never grasp what VAS really is. Don't try to teach Grandma how to suck eggs. I started my professional programming career in January 1976. Hook Larry Hookins Oh! I have slipped the surly bonds of EarthAnd danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings;
January 24, 201313 yr I don't think I've ever had a OOM CTD. But then again I'm a low and slow flier with 0 add on airports though I do use 3PD GA aircraft and UTX, FTX, GEX, REX, 10m Terrain Mesh and other such environment products. With using these products I found that the non-effected areas are so bland that it really dampens my enthusiasm to ever fly there. There is no way that base FSX can look this interesting:http://forum.avsim.n...f/#entry2578728 CPU: AMD 9800X3D PBO MB +200 CO -25| Motherboard: MSI MAG X870e Tomahawk WiFi | GPU: MSI RTX 5090 Ventus 3X OC | RAM: G.Skill 2x32GB DDR5 6000 cas 30 | M.2 SSDs: Samsung 990 EVO Plus 2T, WD Black SN750 M.2 1T | Hard Drive: WD Black HDD 6T 7200 | Optical Drive: LG Bluray writer, internal | Cooling: Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 EVO | Case: Fractal Design Focus G | PSU: NZXT C1200 1200W Win 11 Pro 64|HP Reverb G2 revised VR HMD|Asus 25" IPS 2K 60Hz monitor|Saitek X52 Pro & Peddles|TIR 5 (now retired)
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