March 6, 201313 yr Commercial Member RC is ok if you like to click on windows and numbers to answer to ATC. If you want to use voice, then look into Vox or Vatsim. Or use Its Your Plane (IYP), which has a voice interface to RC built-in as well as its copilot functions. Regards Pete Win10: 22H2 19045.2728 CPU: 9900KS at 5.5GHz Memory: 32Gb at 3800 MHz. GPU: RTX 24Gb Titan 2 x 2160p projectors at 25Hz onto 200 FOV curved screen
March 6, 201313 yr Ive always found that annoying and antiquated. Takes longer to setup PFE than to plan and implement the flight. One could take the ease of RC4 and combine it with the complexity of PFE might have something. I m seriously considering ProAtc since I've tried every other ATC prgran out there and still not satisfied. No, not satisfies with "online" flying either. Yes but once you've set-up the flightplan incl SIUD's and STAR's it's done! Much the same as in real life really! I've tried to do a recording of a flight using PFE but the frame rate was as low as one frame a week. American voices do sound robotic But to many that's normal! :-) When I fly across Europe and Asia I get the whole show, correct regional voices both for all my AI and ATC As for the Emergency: it does work but you need to be completely familiar with how and what to do beforehand. Super VC10 into LOWI with PF3 at a cinema near you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=298UDyNmgUA
March 6, 201313 yr If you decide to go RC4, make sure you check out Multi Crew Experience. Best voice interaction IMO with either RC4 or default FSX ATC. And excellent support. And I have to say, much as I acknowledge the shortcomings of FSX ATC, no other product comes close in terms of ATC voice realism. They all sound robotic to me.
March 6, 201313 yr ProFlight Emulator. Check out the site info here: http://www.oncourse-software.co.uk/pfe_details1.htm You wouldn't be disappointed if you purchased this programme.
March 6, 201313 yr ProATC, I use it all the time, and with the advent of the new update(1.2)It will lead to whole new experience including I believe the ability to divert etc, Will ProATC allow you to file and IFR plan when enroute? i.e. GA flying in say a Beech Bonanza. You left your home airport under VFR conditions but as you near your destination, conditions unexpectedly turn to IFR. In the native FSX ATC world if you contact your destination airport's ATC through the Nearest Airports option, and request landing, you are refused clearance because of the IFR conditions and the fact that you did not file an IFR plan. Frank Patton Corsair 5000D Airflow Case; MSI B650 Tomahawk MOB; Ryzen 7 7800 X3D CPU; ASUS RTX 4080 Super; NZXT 360mm liquid cooler; Corsair Vengeance 64GB DDR5 4800 MHz RAM; RMX850X Gold PSU;; ASUS VG289 4K 27" Display; Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo, Crosswind 3's w/dampener. Former USAF meteorologist & ground weather school instructor. AOPA Member #07379126 "I will never put my name on a product that does not have in it the best that is in me." - John Deere
March 6, 201313 yr In the native FSX ATC world if you contact your destination airport's ATC through the Nearest Airports option, and request landing, you are refused clearance because of the IFR conditions and the fact that you did not file an IFR plan. IIRC, the workaround for this is to open the FSX flight planner, create an IFR flight plan to your destination airport, pick any nearby airport as your departure point, uncheck the box that gives you the option of moving your aircraft to the departure airport (I forget the exact phrasing but it's one of the flight planner options), then click load. Your aircraft is in mid-flight where you left it and you can now get IFR vectors. Not realistic but passable, and not as clunky as it sounds - takes much longer to write about it than to do it. Alan Ampolsk"Ah, Paula, they are firing at me!"-- Saint-Exupery
March 6, 201313 yr Another vote for PFE. Fly across Europe from Heathrow to Rome and hear the controllers go from British, to French, to German, to Italian - very cool. And all the while with realistic AI - Iberia pilots who sound Spanish, Emirates pilots who are Arabic and SAS pilots who sound Nordic. Doesn't get much better than that IMHO.
March 6, 201313 yr VOX ATC offers a demo as well. I would urge anyone looking for a great ATC add-on to at least give it a try. http://www.voxatc.com/Home.aspx
March 6, 201313 yr IIRC, the workaround for this is to open the FSX flight planner, create an IFR flight plan to your destination airport, pick any nearby airport as your departure point.............. Alan, A BIG thanks for that tip. As many hours as I have in and I never knew that would work. Understanding what you are saying I bet I can work a smoother transition. I use RXP GPS's and have a number of stored flight plans. Those can be exported from the RXP as FSX plans, then loaded into FSX. Wonder if to load an FSX plan must start with an airport? If not I could just dial up an approach in the RXP, export it, then load it. I'm off to check that out! Frank Patton Corsair 5000D Airflow Case; MSI B650 Tomahawk MOB; Ryzen 7 7800 X3D CPU; ASUS RTX 4080 Super; NZXT 360mm liquid cooler; Corsair Vengeance 64GB DDR5 4800 MHz RAM; RMX850X Gold PSU;; ASUS VG289 4K 27" Display; Honeycomb Alpha & Bravo, Crosswind 3's w/dampener. Former USAF meteorologist & ground weather school instructor. AOPA Member #07379126 "I will never put my name on a product that does not have in it the best that is in me." - John Deere
March 6, 201313 yr VOXATC ... You talk not press buttons to respond/request. Talking to ATC really adds to the realisum and adds to the workload just as in real life. You can have a 1st officer to make your calls if you wish. It also injects its own traffic and controlles it much better than others ive used. For me its the only choice. Rich
March 6, 201313 yr If you decide to go RC4, make sure you check out Multi Crew Experience. Best voice interaction IMO with either RC4 or default FSX ATC. And excellent support. MCE works with PFE too!! Thanks Tom My Youtube Videos! http://www.youtube.com/user/tf51d
March 6, 201313 yr Doesn't get much better than that IMHO. Except for one thing. With VOX ATC if I choose to be the pilot as opposed to letting the 1st office do the talking it's me talking to ATC and NOT a voice generated by the program. To me that's as real as it gets. Doesn't get much better than that IMHO. With VOX ATC if I choose to communicate with ATC instead of the 1st. Officer it's me talking to ATC and NOT a program generated voice. It doesn't get much more REAL than that.
March 6, 201313 yr With VOX ATC if I choose to communicate with ATC instead of the 1st. Officer it's me talking to ATC and NOT a program generated voice. Same in PFE if you turn off the Pilots voice and use voice control, PFE is much better than Vox ATC once you get the voice control sorted out using MCE or as I do use VAC with my own scripts. Those accents as you cross europe are great.
March 6, 201313 yr It also injects its own traffic and controlles it much better than others ive used. Rich, I agree that VOX is the most realistic of the ATC addons. I own VOX, RC4, and PFE. I have not tried ProATC yet. I'm going to let it mature a little more before making the investment. My only complaint with VOX, is the way it does AI traffic. While it does create its' own traffic, it does it in such a way that when you're on the ground there is plenty of traffic. Once you're airborn, it's as if you're by yourself. It's very rare that I see another aircraft or a contrail when in flight. Otherwise, it's a great program.
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