Yes, Alain...but with what you are saying here...if anybody ever converted the FSX engine even without adding to it, but only to convert to 64 bit...and an end to O.O.M's for everyone..it would be a run-away seller!  FSX has great features, has a very well-enabled A.I. module, A.T.C. model, and eye-popping texture features (ORBX, etc).  I'll bet you that if FSX'ers got a 64 bit engine...they would be a totally happy camp, and look no further....  XPX has the best night operation simulation on the planet. It has the best road traffic and its network on the planet. If FSX could be updated with my two XPX mentioned features, it would be a flight sim for the next 5 years to beat.  

 

But...if Laminar comes up with a mature A.I./graphics (seasonal ORBX'ish look)/A.T.C. solution of its own...then FTX could be possibly shelved, as I am thinking of retiring GEX as early as next week.  For now, though, FSX is viable alongside XPX, and each can be fired up for what 'you want to do in that session'.  That's how I run my needs, anyway.  FS9 included in the mix.

 

 

FSX will never get the missing stuff XPX as to offer as FSX is not supported by MS anymore, 64-bit or else, on the other hand XPX can get what you described as FSX's + as XPX is supported and evolving, will it be done by Laminar or some 3PD.... we don't know, but what's missing can always be added to XPX.

 

As for O.O.M's for everyone....read this, it's a must http://www.simforums.com/forums/the-fsx-computer-system-the-bible-by-nickn_topic46211.html  , you will find out a LOT about why a lot of simmers are having problems with O.O.M, you may not like some of the reasons why the O.O.M happened, first because of the money already involved in add-on peoples already have causing their problems but also because of the missing WOW factor that such add-on may take away from you if you don't use them, the truth shall set you free...pay attention to the "top 3 reasons for Flight Sim performance and visual issues".

 

You can't win on both side, either you deal with the fact that you WILL have O.O.M's because of what's describe in the link above or you take action and remove what's causing these problems.

FSX will never get the missing stuff XPX as FSX it is not supported by MS anymore, 64-bit or else, on the other hand XPX can get what you described as FSX's + as XPX is supported and evolving, will it be done by Laminar or some 3PD.... we don't know, but what's missing can always be added to XPX.

 

As for O.O.M's for everyone....read this, it's a must http://www.simforums.com/forums/the-fsx-computer-system-the-bible-by-nickn_topic46211.html  , you will find out a LOT about why a lot of simmers are having problems with O.O.M's, you may not like some of the reasons why the O.O.M's happened, first because of the money already involved in add-on peoples already have causing the problem but also because of the missing WOW factor that such add-on may take away from you if you don't use them, the truth shall set you free...pay attention to the "top 3 reasons for Flight Sim performance and visual issues".

 

You can't win on both side, either you deal with the fact that you will have O.O.M's because of what's describe in the link above or you take action and remove what's causing these problems.

Grabbed a fresh coffee...and am reading....   Thanks for the link, Alain.

 

Post Edit:  "Ouch...., this read is gonna hurt...."....

 John nice to see you posting here would be nice to see more of it  :good:

 

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Grabbed a fresh coffee...and am reading....   Thanks for the link, Alain.

 

Post Edit:  "Ouch...., this read is gonna hurt...."....

 

Yeap! for some peoples this read will hurt as they will keep chasing their tails to find a quick fix (read tweak) to the O.O.M. problem and keep adding to it instead of taking the proper and inevitable step to remove the cause of the problem, always easier to blame the problem on FSX itself.

nah,  I've read what Nick thinks for years, this isn't anything new.  Nor does he actually discuss OOM's in it.  Look, Nick is a very well deserved respected name in flight sim, and I've used GEX for a long time. However, I almost never agree with anything he has to say on the subject of FSX.  does he maybe have a point? sure.  people try to push things too far.  On the other hand, I'm glad they do.  If everyone listened to nick. we wouldn't have the work going on for the DX10 fixes, or shader mods etc...  Now I have a sim that runs smooth at 30 fps everywhere, even ORBX seattle, and I rarely have an OOM, and if I do it's usually because I did something stupid.  like load up four seperate aircraft without reloading the sim, or overfly 12 detailed payware airports.  I'd rather listen to somebody who's trying to make this thing better, than someone who's averse to change, even at the expense of stability.

nah,  I've read what Nick thinks for years, this isn't anything new.  Nor does he actually discuss OOM's in it.  Look, Nick is a very well deserved respected name in flight sim, and I've used GEX for a long time. However, I almost never agree with anything he has to say on the subject of FSX.  does he maybe have a point? sure.  people try to push things too far.  On the other hand, I'm glad they do.  If everyone listened to nick. we wouldn't have the work going on for the DX10 fixes, or shader mods etc...  Now I have a sim that runs smooth at 30 fps everywhere, even ORBX seattle, and I rarely have an OOM, and if I do it's usually because I did something stupid.  like load up four seperate aircraft without reloading the sim, or overfly 12 detailed payware airports.  I'd rather listen to somebody who's trying to make this thing better, than someone who's averse to change, even at the expense of stability.

 

It does not matter if you agree with him or not, if you don't it's because you can prove him wrong with cold hard facts on anything he said in the link I provided, if you can't.....it's like I said, it does not matter if you agree with him or not.

 

"Now I have a sim that runs smooth at 30 fps everywhere"

 

Mainly because of Nvidia's drivers and their Vertical Sync. including more powerful hardware , not because of 3PD as some of them would like you to believe.

 

As I said before....see below.

 

We actually have to overwrite the default textures because we discovered UTX stores some of its unique textures in the folder so we cannot move them.

So for those of us with UTX will lose those unique textures with the FTXG install right? If so which ones are effected? I'm sure they can just be re-installed using the UTX UI or will there be FTXG conflicts?

So for those of us with UTX will lose those unique textures with the FTXG install right? If so which ones are effected? I'm sure they can just be re-installed using the UTX UI or will there be FTXG conflicts?

 

No you won't lose them! It is the default textures that FTX Global will overwrite not the unique UTX ones.

It does not matter if you agree with him or not, if you don't it's because you can prove him wrong with cold hard facts on anything he said in the link I provided, if you can't.....it's like I said, it does not matter if you agree with him or not.

 

"Now I have a sim that runs smooth at 30 fps everywhere"

 

Mainly because of Nvidia's drivers and their Vertical Sync. including more powerful hardware , not because of 3PD as some of them would like you to believe.

 

As I said before....see below.

 

 

There's very few "cold hard facts" when it comes to FSX. Every system seems to react differently.

 

NickN puts out some good stuff. I used his windows 7 tweak guide.

 

But as far as tweaking FSX, his guide is for some and not for others. I personally get much better results with Word Not Allowed's guide then Nicks guide. Nick bashes "miracle tweaks" or at least has, yet I get great results from HIGHMEMFIX and BP=0 with FFTF set at .10 compared to not using them. He'd say I'm "overstressing" my system and robbing peter to pay paul. I'd say I don't care because I'm getting locked 30 almost everywhere in the world with no stutters.

It does not matter if you agree with him or not, if you don't it's because you can prove him wrong with cold hard facts on anything he said in the link I provided, if you can't.....it's like I said, it does not matter if you agree with him or not.

 

Well, let's not forget that not only er... 'anti-NickN'ers' :rolleyes: have to prove things with cold hard facts, but NickN himself too...! The way you say it makes it sound that NickN is right until proven wrong. Well, I say NickN is wrong until proven right. ^_^ I mean, this works both ways of course! He is saying things that really make me go 'What...?!?' Like first having to install drivers for your motherboard from the cd that comes with the mobo... I talked about this with some hardware guru's and they laughed hard about this. The first thing they said was 'Let him prove that!' Why pollute your brand new OS with old drivers and only then install the new updates ones? Yes, I read his explanation but I've yet to see PROVE of that. And this goes for a lot of what NickN says: a LOT of talk (which btw is one of the things that I don't like about his guides) but where's the prove?

 

I was really interested in his guide, I even asked about it on 'his' forum, but after reading what I read so far, I lost interest. Also because his previous guides never did me any good.

There's very few "cold hard facts" when it comes to FSX. Every system seems to react differently.

 

NickN puts out some good stuff. I used his windows 7 tweak guide.

 

But as far as tweaking FSX, his guide is for some and not for others. I personally get much better results with Word Not Allowed's guide then Nicks guide. Nick bashes "miracle tweaks" or at least has, yet I get great results with FFTF set at .10 compared to not using them. He'd say I'm "overstressing" my system and robbing peter to pay paul. I'd say I don't care because I'm getting locked 30 almost everywhere in the world with no stutters.from HIGHMEMFIX and BP=0

 

I repeat...

 

Mainly because of Nvidia's drivers and their Vertical Sync. including more powerful hardware , not because of 3PD as some of them would like you to believe.

 

May some tweak like HIGHMEMFIX help...yes, he never said that your FSX tweak free will run better.

 

There's very few "cold hard facts" when it comes to FSX.

 

Read what he wrote again (in his unfinished thread), it's easier to blame the sim instead of uninstalling bloated HD add on that will cause the problems aka blurries, stutters, incompatibility (not following the SDK) ect....

The weak thing about NickN's upcoming bible is what he says in the preface already: if you do everything he says to the letter and you still don't get good performance, you are using too high settings or using the wrong addons. That's too easy. In fact, to be more precise, this renders the entire bible useless. He in fact says you should only expect good performance when you focus on the plane and flying and forget about the rest, which is just eye candy. Well, I guarantuee you that in order to simply get such a basic version of FSX running well with not too high settings, you don't need a guide or ANY tweak at ALL! This means that the guide is for only those who have no need for eye candy and various addons and hence don't need a guide to begin with. And there are very few simmers who will fit in that category.

 

Also, by saying (and repeating) that if things don't run well it's your own fault (and of the developers) NickN completely eliminates every possibility of questioning his method and guide. No matter what you do, you can NEVER ever say his guide is wrong because he will simply state you are, even if you've followed the guide from A to Z. That's way too easy, of course.

Well, let's not forget that not only er... 'anti-NickN'ers' :rolleyes: have to prove things with cold hard facts, but NickN himself too...! The way you say it makes it sound that NickN is right until proven wrong. Well, I say NickN is wrong until proven right. ^_^ I mean, this works both ways of course! He is saying things that really make me go 'What...?!?' Like first having to install drivers for your motherboard from the cd that comes with the mobo... I talked about this with some hardware guru's and they laughed hard about this. The first thing they said was 'Let him prove that!' Why pollute your brand new OS with old drivers and only then install the new updates ones? Yes, I read his explanation but I've yet to see PROVE of that. And this goes for a lot of what NickN says: a LOT of talk (which btw is one of the things that I don't like about his guides) but where's the prove?

 

I was really interested in his guide, I even asked about it on 'his' forum, but after reading what I read so far, I lost interest. Also because his previous guides never did me any good.

 

As he always said.." As always please remember: You're Mileage May Vary !!"

 

See, the point is this (as he explained it), the core engine is old and was never updated (or design) to work with today's bloated HD add on, BUT some here don't care and will blame FSX for their problems as they want to install all the HD eye candy, does it look good...absolutely....do I like to see HD sceneries from the cockpit compare to FSX vanilla....you bet, but at what price....and that's where peoples are blaming FSX for their problems instead of some add on developers for not playing by the rules (SDK), and they (some of them) will tell you that your problems are FSX or hardware related...and that is a big pile of manure.

As he always said.." As always please remember: You're Mileage May Vary !!"

 

See, the point is this (as he explained it), the core engine is old and was never updated (or design) to work with today's bloated HD add on, BUT some here don't care and will blame FSX for their problems as they want to install all the HD eye candy, does it look good...absolutely....do I like to see HD sceneries from the cockpit compare to FSX vanilla....you bet, but at what price....and that's where peoples are blaming FSX for their problems instead of the add on developers for not playing by the rules (SDK), and they (some of them)will tell you that your problems are FSX or hardware related...and that is a big pile of manure.

 

See my 'answer' which I posted while you were typing. I understand his point, but it renders his whole bible useless imho. Because in the end he simply says 'Use lower settings or don't use those addons'. And I don't need a (very extensive and very exhausting and way over the top) guide for that. ^_^

See my 'answer' which I posted while you were typing. I understand his point, but it renders his whole bible useless imho. Because in the end he simply says 'Use lower settings or don't use those addons'. And I don't need a (very extensive and very exhausting and way over the top) guide for that. ^_^

 

 

You may be one of severals simmers here who do understand the limits of FSX and the way some 3PD are hacking the system to make their add on more appealing to the eyes...I don't know....I'm sure you don't have any add on installed that will make you blame FSX for any problems you may have...  

 

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