You may be one of severals simmers here who do understand the limits of FSX and the way some 3PD are hacking the system to make their add on more appealing to the eyes...I don't know....I'm sure you don't have any add on installed that will make you blame FSX for any problems you may have...  

 

:friends:

 

In the end all problems (including those with FSX) are due to greed...  :rolleyes:  We all want MORE all the time! B)

 

:drinks:

Alain,

Nick N is just on a personal crusade against Orbx. It's so obvious when reading his "bible" that it isn't even funny anymore (see the "ignorant developper" part).

I really wonder if this "bible" is meant to help users or just a soapbox for his personal agenda ?

I thought your were a straight shooter but I'm still wondering what your are trying to achieve in this particular thread.

If you have something to say against the way Orbx designs scenery, fine, please do so but without the innuendo, and move on.

Jean-Paul, on 18 Jul 2013 - 10:04 AM, said:

 

Alain,

 

Nick N is just on a personal crusade against Orbx. It's so obvious when reading his "bible" that it isn't even funny anymore (see the "ignorant developper" part).

 

I really wonder if this "bible" is meant to help users or just a soapbox for his personal agenda ?

 

I thought your were a straight shooter but I'm still wondering what your are trying to achieve in this thread.

Jean Paul,

 

If Nick has a personal problem with Orbx I won't make it mine.

 

You can find plenty of threads where I said that IMHO Orbx as the best add on for eye candy (as I got a lot of their add on at the time), you can also find plenty of threads where I said that I had a problem with Orbx for the way they conducted themselves with the sale they had (some time ago) right after they released a product undercutting their "pre-paid before release" customers to the knee, (lets not talk about the way or reasons some customers were banned on their website) all that is straight shooting.

 

Nick N is just on a personal crusade against Orbx. It's so obvious when reading his "bible" that it isn't even funny anymore (see the "ignorant developper" part).

 

I don't know if Nick was pointing fingers at Orbx with what ever he said in his "ignorant developers" part as I did not read Orbx name mentioned once but "developers" in what he wrote, BUT if you think that this was aimed at Orbx I will play along and speculate and give you three reasons as to why he may have wrote the "ignorant developers" part assuming that was aimed at Orbx....remember, this is all speculations on my part.

 

The first reason would be because Orbx is a threat to Flight1's GEX product and Nick does not like that.

 

The second reason would be because Orbx is doing some or all the things explained in his "ignorant developers" part.

 

The third reason would be the first and second reason combined together.

 

My personal take on this is that Nick is writing his "Bible" to help simmers see the light with FSX.

"The truth shall set you free"...

 

Your guess is as good as mine Jean Paul.

After reading the "FSX Bible" intro according to NickN
I guess I was wrong, here I thought the pope's name was Francis!

Seems to me he missed a couple definitions: The Arrogant and the Petulant Developers.

 

BTW: I agree with Jeroen and Jean Paul

And the topic was "FTX Global delayed to next week"

 

Edit: His intention to help the FSX community is greatly welcomed, but the form is not good, None of us owns the truth about FSX or Systems or Computers.

The third reason would be the first and second reason combined together.

I am certain that's it! However I don't agree with NickN when it comes to ignorant developers and Orbx because the latter also clearly improved certain things! Yes, obviously they DO make 'heavy scenery' but to call them 'ignorant developers' is utter nonsense and clearly spite (if that's the right English word).

 

EDIT

Don't get me wrong, I also do think NickN's main purpose (and maybe even in his own mind the only purpose) is to help out people, but I think he has become a bit blind to a few things...

 

 

BTW: I agree with Jeroen and Jean Paul

 

 

Alain
You have made it very clear you have a problem with ORBX. That is your problem, not mine.

It seems your strayed the topic of conversation on purpose. One question: How many of your posts in this thread been related to the threads title?

And YES, instead of writing the same stuff as Jeroen and Paul I agree with them.

alainneedle1, on 18 Jul 2013 - 07:47 AM, said:

 

I repeat...

 

Mainly because of Nvidia's drivers and their Vertical Sync. including more powerful hardware , not because of 3PD as some of them would like you to believe.

 

May some tweak like HIGHMEMFIX help...yes, he never said that your FSX tweak free will run better.

 

There's very few "cold hard facts" when it comes to FSX.

 

Read what he wrote again (in his unfinished thread), it's easier to blame the sim instead of uninstalling bloated HD add on that will cause the problems aka blurries, stutters, incompatibility (not following the SDK) ect....

I've read what you wrote. I don't use the 1/2 refresh Vertical sync added in later Nvidia drivers as you are suggesting so no, that's not the reason I get good performance now.

 

No one is blaming anything on anything. He's right about HD textures (don't use them) and some addon devs not mipmapping correctly. But he's also way too narrow minded when it comes to many tweaks that provide excellent results for a heck of a lot of people that want to run higher settings.

 

J van E, on 18 Jul 2013 - 10:47 AM, said:

 

I am certain that's it! However I don't agree with NickN when it comes to ignorant developers and Orbx because the latter also clearly improved certain things! Yes, obviously they DO make 'heavy scenery' but to call them 'ignorant developers' is utter nonsense and clearly spite (if that's the right English word).

 

EDIT

Don't get me wrong, I also do think NickN's main purpose (and maybe even in his own mind the only purpose) is to help out people, but I think he has become a bit blind to a few things...

And such a charge is even dumber considering Orbx has pioneered many methods of performance friendly texturing with great quality, autogen draw calls allowing more autogen at little cost, and soon to be night lighting in FTX Global that doesn't hurt performance.

 

Nick seems a little on edge lately. Has to be the whole FTX Global vs. GEX thing. Just my opinion.

Alain

You have made it very clear you have a problem with ORBX. That is your problem, not mine.

 

It seems your strayed the topic of conversation on purpose. One question: How many of your posts in this thread been related to the threads title?

 

And YES, instead of writing the same stuff as Jeroen and Paul I agree with them.

 

LOL I was kidding with the emoticon, go back and read from the beginning of this thread, GEX, XPX were mentioned by other posters to start with before me,  and by the way is your post about "FTX Global delayed to next week"... 

 

OK, just to make it official...."I think FTX Global will be delayed until next week for sure" so there, you have it, I'm on topic.

As he always said.." As always please remember: You're Mileage May Vary !!"

 

See, the point is this (as he explained it), the core engine is old and was never updated (or design) to work with today's bloated HD add on, BUT some here don't care and will blame FSX for their problems as they want to install all the HD eye candy, does it look good...absolutely....do I like to see HD sceneries from the cockpit compare to FSX vanilla....you bet, but at what price....and that's where peoples are blaming FSX for their problems instead of some add on developers for not playing by the rules (SDK), and they (some of them) will tell you that your problems are FSX or hardware related...and that is a big pile of manure.

Actually Alain, a lot of us don't 'blame' FSX. We all understand that it is a dated 32 bit engine. We lament that while it CAN be made (for a short duration....) to look fabulous, with the latest 3PD add-on's, it will eventually shut down due to not actually, the FSX code itself, but that it is coded to run within the constipated confines of 32 bit.  THAT in a nutshell is the whole issue.  If the code would be released in 64 bit, what an FSX world it would be!  My system can give me 30 fps in ORBX regional with all the important Graphic bars set to full right. What happens to my session, is that I run out of memory...and the fun stops. I don't blame FSX, I LAMENT this occurrence.  I have had an O.O.M. with XPX at 32 bit a couple of times....but when having used (as I mostly do...) it's 64 bit big brother....no issues....with flights lasting into the hours...and the sim at FULL CRANK!  That is the important point....at full crank. XPX is beautiful with everything hot off the press. I just wish that my FSX world would maintain my flight in that format as well. I don't blame, I lament in my beer....and coffee (smile).  It is what it is. I will buy FTXG because it will give me the best 35 minutes this side of the Pecos River!  

 

I'd rather (for myself) have the most realistic looking 35 minute  flight, than a paired and scaled-down happening to make the flight last longer. I have seen what FSX can dish out...and it's beautiful to behold.  Too bad, M.S. didn't stick around to modernize it to a 64 bit base. Too bad, for we FSX user's all.....

A bit off topic but Nick is tops in my book as every single time He has helped me right away and in depth explanations, agendas or not glad He is here to help Us, thank you Nick.

Sesquashtoo,

 

Good post, the problem is when peoples try to run bloated add-on (that would run best on a 64-bit) with FSX 32-bit and try to find a magic tweak to make them work without blurries, OOM or stutters free at max settings, and by doing so are probably screwing something else in the process.

 

Sure, if you don't mind getting O.O.M after 15 > 30 minutes, seeing blurries, stutters in a flight who am I to tell you not to do it, try to tell that to a guy who fly big plane on a long trip....but don't try to tell some of them that their bloated FSX is the cause of their O.O.M problems when trying to land at a big airport...hell no, they want a fix, they will make it work at max settings no matter what...and that is where what you see below happen..

 

Richard Sennett, on 18 Jul 2013 - 2:25 PM, said:

 

A bit off topic but Nick is tops in my book as every single time He has helped me right away and in depth explanations, agendas or not glad He is here to help Us, thank you Nick.

+1

 

I don't think he's on a crusade (agenda), I think as Nick as somebody that will not put up with crap no matter how good it's wrapped in, he just call a spade a spade.

Why don't you try using DX10 if you are having crashes? I don't have any OOM or CTD since I switched to it.

 

And such a charge is even dumber considering Orbx has pioneered many methods of performance friendly texturing with great quality, autogen draw calls allowing more autogen at little cost, and soon to be night lighting in FTX Global that doesn't hurt performance.

 

 

 

I want to use FSX Ground scenery shadows when flying, I want buildings shadows to follow the sun as this is to me a more immersive experience, how do I do that with their sceneries I paid for? Maybe that's where some of the performance you see come from, that's where this saying "Rob Peter to pay Paul" may apply here.

Why don't you try using DX10 if you are having crashes? I don't have any OOM or CTD since I switched to it.

 

I don't know if this was intended to me but I don't have O.O.M. or C.T.D. problems.