Gee some people here sure do care what other people do with their time! Would anybody like to come over and watch me use P3D and pester about their interpretation of the EULA?

 

Exactly. The terms and usage clauses are intentionally vague for a reason. Either that or the lawyer who wrote it needs to go back to: Contracts and Clauses 101.

 

Using a paid version of P3D is not even in the same galaxy as an illegal music download.

Some people sure do care about those of us who want to obey the EULA!

 

OK, who is "us" that you speak for? There would be you and who else? Who is "Some people"? Why are they concerned about your use of software, if they are not a party to the EULA contract.

 

Isn't it or shouldn't it be that the only person who should be concerned about your interpretation of the EULA is you? And that any other person(s) concern about another's interpretation of the EULA might best be called meddling in someone else's business?

 

Wouldn't anyone who so involves them self into the affairs of others might be neglecting their own affairs?

 

Or does it all boil down to the fact that there are plenty of people out in the community who do not want to see someone else have a more enjoyable time with some computer software that they either cannot afford or in their interpretation feel they cannot use? And in their fear of someone having fun with something that they do not have will turn and start to discredit at each and every opportunity that avails itself to them?

 

And just as a side note of general observation, why is it that there are all these people in the community who are outraged when "FSX is a computer game" is used? I see responses that "it's more than a game" and that these outraged people ARE NOT GAMERS! They are "hardcore simmers" or "serious simmers". Yet here comes P3D, which inconveniently jeopardizes their use of their uber-tube or what ever and suddenly these previously outraged hardcore simmers decry the fact that P3D is an entertainment product. How convenient that must be for these people, as I've never learned how to straddle both sides of a fence!

 

 

How convenient that must be for these people, as I've never learned how to straddle both sides of a fence!

 

And THAT just about sums it all up. Great post before this thread gets locked !

To me it's more like a "fix", as an addiction, who ever need their "fix" will do what ever they need  to do to get it.

To me it's more like a "fix", as an addiction, who ever need their "fix" will do what ever they need  to do to get it.

 

You're right sir this flightsim stuff is like cocaine. I am prepared to hold up the convenience store to get my next fix, very similar to purchasing a new program.

 

How ridiculous does that sound??? Addiction? Are we all raving junkies for using P3D?

"Onward Christian Soldiers ..............." 

If they would just forget developing a whole new FSX and simply update the current one to be more stable and able to support the most upto date hardware, I'd pay just for that.

A 64bit version of FSX would do me just fine. Could someone please email me a suitable patch no later than Friday? Cheers.

As silly as the original post was. It now has turned into another P3D EULA debate!

 

...I've never learned how to straddle both sides of a fence!

It's easily achieved but can also be quite painful

It's easily achieved but can also be quite painful

 

Depends on the height of the fence and the length of your legs.

I completely agree.

 

They don't care who buys their product. They said it themselves. The EULA was made probably just to comply with the Microsoft ESP "license" requirements that were given to them. They don't have to enforce it.

Very well said.  Further, if LM really cared they would employ a password-protected login w/ a USB dongle. The only issue they truly care about has nothing to do w/ who uses the blithering product but rather if it's copied and distributed it illegally.

 

 

A: Lockheed Martin does not offer Prepar3D for entertainment, and we have no plans to enter the entertainment space. Our end-user license agreement explains that Prepar3D can be used for purposes other than personal/consumer entertainment. Our development focus is on learning and training.

 

Jim, read the quote more carefully:  '...explains that P3D can be used for purposes other than personal/consumer entertainment.'

 

The clear implication here is that IT WILL be used for entertainment...but CAN BE USED FOR PURPOSES OTHER THAN ENTERTAINMENT, even though they do state clearly that is not their development focus.  If they really wanted to restrict use their EULA would specifically state (does it? certainly not in this quote you have provided) it is STRICTLY FORBIDDEN to use the product for personal entertainment.  Even this  would be outrageously ridiculous since it's truly impossible to separate entertainment from learning!   

Basically, it comes down to this:

 

We're obsessive whiners. In our opinion, nothing's ever right, no one ever listens to us, and we're never satisfied with whatever's released from a Developer, whether it's an airplane, scenery package or utility. Case in point? FTXGlobal...

 

We'll do anything to get our fix, as Alain said above... even crack files and fib on EULA's.

Noel,

 

It is clear as to the 3 groups of users the EULA addresses and the group of users it excludes. Go teach your goldfish to fly or show your girl your best 3 pointer and you'll be fine according to some.