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Big Monitor vs TV

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Ready to upgrade to bigger screen dedicated to FSX but want to be careful about picture quality.  Is a monitor always better than a TV?  And does a TV/Monitor need to be 1920x1080?  I'm thinkin the max I would want is 32 in.  What do you recommend for FSX?   TV or monitor.  Big TVs are cheaper but how does this effect the FPS, video card, etc.?  

I use a 42" HDTV fed by the HD video output from the computer.  Excellent picture.  What you should have would depend on your video card output/capability.  FPS are not dependent on your monitor - this is dictated by your processor speed and to a certain extent RAM, video RAM, hard drive read speed and other specs of your system plus the add-ons you are running in FSX.  I run REX textures, otherwise no add-ons.  I am locked at 33 FPS (because if I run unlimited I bounce between ~ 40 to 70 FPS which causes 'jitters') and consistently get 32.3-32.9 FPS.

Dan

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Windows 10, i7 3770 3.9 GHz, 16 GB DDR3 RAM, NVIDIA 1070 ti, 42" 1080p widescreen / P3D v5, P3D v4, FSX with Acceleration, FSX-SE / TrackIR-5

I have a 42" LCD that I have connected to my GTX 670 and the image is not sharp at all. Maybe my TV is to old but I can't seem to make it look sharper.

I do like the image size.

This topic gets asked time and time again, so here it is... all so called, readily available, HiDef TV's/ LCD monitors are (at this moment in time, although some 2560x1440 and 2560x1080 panels)1920x1080 from 24" up to 50"+,  soooo...if you have the same amount of pixels on a 50" monitor as you do on a 24" monitor and you view them from the same distance then obviously the larger image will give a poorer quality image, simply because the size of the pixels are bigger, they have to be, because you have the same amount as the 24" monitor but filling a larger screen.

 

The way round getting a better quality image is to A) view the monitor from further away or B) increase the amount of pixels. If quality is of important to you, then IMO you only have one option if you want to go to a bigger screen, and that is to increase the amount of pixels. There are a few options open to you which among a couple of other alternatives, include the 30" Apple display and Dell's 30" Ultrasharp, both which run at 2560x1600 pixels with a native format of 16x10 and not the thinner so called HD format of 16x9 which all run at 1920x1080, although there are some 2560x1440 and 2560x1080 panels coming onto the market.

 

Another option is to use multiple monitors but that's another story. From my own experience, the 30" Dell Ultrasharp has done more than any other single upgrade I've made to enhance the immersion factor for me in FSX. It's the same old question... Does size matter? I'll let you ponder the answer :wink:

Howard
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Supposedly Sony is cutting prices on their 900As tomorrow, so maybe a nice 3840x2160 65 incher for simming?

 

scott s.

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grab a short throw projector if you have 5-6ft horizontal space and a 5x6ft picture is what you get, oh and a scraper to get your jaw off the ground  :P

ZORAN

 

If you're not getting a good image on a TV you should check your overscan/under scan settings - on both the settings for the input you're using on the TV and in your Nvidia/ATI control panels.

 

What you want to do is disable it in both as that will map pixel to pixel, ie give every pixel of the 1920 x 1080 resolution output by your graphic card to every pixel of the 1920 x 1080 resolution of the TV. If you don't do this you will get a fuzziness to the image.

 

Give it a go - makes a world of difference on the 50" I use.

 

Danny

Danny Hicks

 

 


If you're not getting a good image on a TV you should check your overscan/under scan settings - on both the settings for the input you're using on the TV and in your Nvidia/ATI control panels.

 

I have an nVidea card and a Samsung HDTV but I don't see an overscan setting in control panel, nVidea inspector nor the TV.  Where do you find it?

 

Gregg

Gregg Seipp

"A good landing is when you can walk away from the airplane.  A great landing is when you can reuse it."
i9 64GB RAM, GTX-5090

I have an nVidea card and a Samsung HDTV but I don't see an overscan setting in control panel, nVidea inspector nor the TV.  Where do you find it?

 

Gregg

 Hi Gregg,

 

In Nvidia Control you'll find overscan settings in Display -> Adjust desktop size and position. Then check Scaling (should be Aspect Ratio mode) and then check in the Size tabs for overscanning.

 

As for a Samsung TV - I don't have that brand but a quick Google search turned up this which might solve your problem really quickly: http://www.storageforum.net/forum/showthread.php/8905-How-to-Disable-overscan-on-a-Samsung-quot-SMART-quot-tv-solved

 

Let us know how you get on.

Danny

 

EDIT: Thinking about the order of things - start with the TV fix, then move to your Nvidia control. Seems more likely your TV is doing the screwup, and less likely the Nvidia control panel will have changed settings.

Danny Hicks

I have a Samsung 27" 1920x1080 monitor and love it.

 

A 32" TV should give you an equally good picture.

Bert

 Hi Gregg,

 

In Nvidia Control you'll find overscan settings in Display -> Adjust desktop size and position. Then check Scaling (should be Aspect Ratio mode) and then check in the Size tabs for overscanning.

 

As for a Samsung TV - I don't have that brand but a quick Google search turned up this which might solve your problem really quickly: http://www.storageforum.net/forum/showthread.php/8905-How-to-Disable-overscan-on-a-Samsung-quot-SMART-quot-tv-solved

 

Let us know how you get on.

Danny

 

EDIT: Thinking about the order of things - start with the TV fix, then move to your Nvidia control. Seems more likely your TV is doing the screwup, and less likely the Nvidia control panel will have changed settings.

 

Thanks.  I changed the video card setting.  I found this too...

 

http://www.ehow.com/how_8738467_fix-overscan-samsung-hdtv.html

 

On my TV, when I go to size I can force it to 16:9, stretch and 'Just Scan'.  I'm guessing that the right setting is just scan which produces a screen that is slightly smaller than the edges of the display.  I'll try them later today.

 

To the OP, my own opinion, having just switched to an HDTV from a triple monitor setup that I used for years, I was pretty amazed by the switch from 3 19" displays to a 42" display.  The larger sizes for everything made it substantially 'more real'...the instruments sizes, the aircraft outside and the world below...it looked a lot more real.  The display is not as sharp, true.  But, on the other hand, the size of everything is close to RW.  Night landings are pretty wow.  So, it's what you value more.  For me, I'm sticking with the TV and happy I made the switch.

 

EDIT:  My eyes are about 4 feet from the display.  I'd also add that I think a 48" or 50" might be a bit better in terms of RW size.

Gregg Seipp

"A good landing is when you can walk away from the airplane.  A great landing is when you can reuse it."
i9 64GB RAM, GTX-5090

I recently purchased a sony Bravia 42" LED TV and wow wow wow wow wow ow !!!

Enough said,

Couldn't be happier

Cheers Josh Cliff

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