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I think that's ridiculous, you can easily recognize the airline by paintjob, no matter if the logo itself is blacked out.


Happens all the time to aviod people associating their livery with a written off aircraft:

 

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Regards,

Ró.

It wasn't so nice to paint whole plane in white but leave Romanian registration unmasked. Disgusting. I wonder what would happen with Italian registration.

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It happens just about everywhere. There are still photos of the Air Florida 737 that crashed in the Potomac with the Logo painted over, as well as many other examples.

 

The logo is there for a reason, it provides visual recognition of your brand. And commercially, your brand is your most valuable asset.

 

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I think yee'll find that your ability to spot different liveries and airlines is far greater than most members of the public who only associate the logo/brand name with the airline.

 

I remember a few weeks ago I was operating our white tail, and on the ramp doing the walk-around, one of the passengers says to me "There's something different about this plane, I can't put my finger on it, but it looks different". I was left dumbfounded that they couldn't spot the difference between our usual livery and the white tail, but there you go, not every member of the public can recognise airlines without the logo.

 

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To me the difference is screamingly obvious, to those passengers, they struggled to spot what was odd about the white tail. It's the logo that people recognise. So in cases like this, painting out the logo makes a big difference, though personally I'd have gone for white paint over black.

 

 

It wasn't so nice to paint whole plane in white but leave Romanian registration unmasked. Disgusting. I wonder what would happen with Italian registration.

 

Legally they cannot remove the identification markings, which was why the Flag and Reg remained on the side, nothing sinister I wouldn't think.

 

Regards,

Ró.

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Air Canada did the same thing when one of their CRJ's went off the runway in Halifax (I think that is correct airport).  They claimed that after the accident they transfer ownership of the hull back to the leasing company and technically do not own the plane anymore so need to remove their logo.

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Legally they cannot remove the identification markings, which was why the Flag and Reg remained on the side, nothing sinister I wouldn't think.

 

As I can see, at Thai aircraft they masked reg and flag.

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It's a bit pathetic though, don't you think? Air crash reports and news headlines don't have titles like "unidentified white airliner ran off the end of the runway". They always refer to the airline by name, so what on Earth is the point of removing all markings?

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It's a bit pathetic though, don't you think? Air crash reports and news headlines don't have titles like "unidentified white airliner ran off the end of the runway". They always refer to the airline by name, so what on Earth is the point of removing all markings?

 

Psychology. Stuff that happens on the news didn't really happen. Stuff that's in pieces at the side of your runway is very definitely real.

 

On top of which, journos probably get there before the chap with the bucket of whitewash.

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Me says Rónán makes a huge point on how normal folks look at the details and how they perceive and relate (to) flying in general. Now I still raise an eyebrow on the logo painting, perhaps as much as I raise an eyebrow when for example P&W promotes their engines as being 'green' while running an ad where they (the engines) grow on trees or something. :huh: Yeah, right.

 

But then I also buy yoghurt where the ad had that good looking lady. Erm, not because of the lady of course. The yoghurt is really good. I think.

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kinda funny. They poorly masked the logo but colors remain. Gee really hard to see what it was when there is an aircraft in the background taking off with the exact logo pattern and colors. lol 

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kinda funny. They poorly masked the logo but colors remain. Gee really hard to see what it was when there is an aircraft in the background taking off with the exact logo pattern and colors. lol 

Even more so since Bangkok is the hub for Thai Airways - that logo must be omnipresent there!

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Looks like truck beam failure at this stage....by all accounts, it was a soft landing, the truck beam must have given way after brakes were applied. I bet it was a massive shock to the pilots (not to mention the passengers!)

 

 

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I was left dumbfounded that they couldn't spot the difference between our usual livery and the white tail, but there you go, not every member of the public can recognise airlines without the logo.

 

Incredible! Go figure!

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Looks like truck beam failure at this stage....by all accounts, it was a soft landing, the truck beam must have given way after brakes were applied. I bet it was a massive shock to the pilots (not to mention the passengers!)

 

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Bangkok VTBS doesn't have grooved runways......

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Bangkok VTBS doesn't have grooved runways......

 

That's a major gouge caused by the landing gear, not grooves in the runway.

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Hey, Ro,(apols, I can't get your accented) on a totally different topic, are you taking part in that fly-past this week-end featuring the B-17 to A380 that I've heard your RTE banging on about getting there early, using public transport, etc?

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Air Canada did the same thing when one of their CRJ's went off the runway in Halifax (I think that is correct airport).  They claimed that after the accident they transfer ownership of the hull back to the leasing company and technically do not own the plane anymore so need to remove their logo.

 

This makes the most sense. The leasing company owns the aircraft, the airline owns the branding. There is an agreement to paint a livery on an aircraft that must be removed at the end or termination of the lease agreement.

 

A Hull Loss would be a lease termination therefore the livery must be removed.

 

With an accident the Media is on scene right away and photographs are distributed globally within an hour. So removing a livery 2 or 3 days later is hardly a 'cover-up'. I see it as removing the livery as per the lease termination agreement.

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Hey, Ro,(apols, I can't get your accented) on a totally different topic, are you taking part in that fly-past this week-end featuring the B-17 to A380 that I've heard your RTE banging on about getting there early, using public transport, etc?

Aer Lingus will be providing an A330 and our Retro Livery A320 for the event, but I won't be at the controls of either. Unfortunately I've been snowed under with work for the past month and as such was not available to take part in the training session for the aerobatic manouvers in the sim, and as such can't act as a pilot for the event. Hoping to get a jumpseat though, should be some view from the flightdeck...  ^_^

 

Last airshow I did was Bray last year which was great fun but haven't had a chance since to do anything like that...  :rolleyes:

 

Regards,

Ró.

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Thanks for that Capt. How about posting video from your vantage point in the jump seat? That name, Bray..............aah, what sweet nostalgia of wet winters on that sea-front. Wonder if that band-stand is still there?

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Thanks for that Capt. How about posting video from your vantage point in the jump seat? That name, Bray..............aah, what sweet nostalgia of wet winters on that sea-front. Wonder if that band-stand is still there?

The band stand is indeed still there, or at least it was a few months ago anyways, haven't been there recently.

 

Unfortunately there'll be no videos from the flight deck, we're forbidden from making videos, taking photo's or recording audio from our flight decks as part of our social media policy. Don't ask me why, I've not a notion but it's been that way for years now...   :( Have to get approval to film from the marketing department, get them to suprivise the filming, get them to approve the film shot and only then can it be released to the public domain. That's why you can't find pictures of our flight decks on the internet if you Google them...  :mellow:

 

*And people think painting over logo's is bad... :ph34r:  *

 

Regards,

Ró.

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Boy, when I was courting a Dublin lass, we used to shelter in that band-stand from the elements, and that was way back in '68. Am gob-smacked to hear that it was still there in this century!

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