SSG 747-8 released

[mikea76 184]

Anybody here actually bought this yet and able to share their thoughts? Having a brief look in their support forum right now just shows some issues with activation (as has been mentioned here already), but I'm genuinely curious on user thoughts and the fidelity of this thing. A good, well simulated 747 for X-Plane would be welcome!

 

Their forums say that the product was to be back available hours ago, but still not there, so not sure how soon after announcement this was actually pulled from the store. Patiently waiting is the name of the game, I guess. Looking forward to hearing real purchasers' thoughts.  :smile:

 

Well we know that the IRS and EEC are not simulated..   So it's not looking good for the system fidelity 

[Cameron XA 272]

 

 

Well we know that the IRS and EEC are not simulated..   So it's not looking good for the system fidelity 

 

Understood! I see it's now back up in the store, so that's good they got issues solved.  :smile: Release hiccups like that are never fun, and I'm sure the developers are relieved to at least get it back out.

 

ASN seemed to give this a rather glowing review, so still looking forward to seeing what real customers have to say!

[jcomm 5,939]

ASN seemed to give this a rather glowing review, so still looking forward to seeing what real customers have to say!

 

I would gladly satisfy your curiosity, but the Saab 340 is first on my "wanabuy" list..., and I actually bought it once, already :-/, as you know ( the Saab...), but not for me ....

 

It'll probably get a review at my friend Tercio simulation news and reviews site though, so it was worth the investment :-) He really liked it!!!

[LeeL 272]

How can that review come to those conclusions?  :blink:

[systemutvecklaren 14]

Why not finish the cockpit textures before release? it looks like something from 1998...

[Baber20 1,438]

Why not finish the cockpit textures before release? it looks like something from 1998...

IMO the whole plane looks like it's made of plastic.

[scotchegg 4,198]

Visually it looks very basic. Makes me a bit suspicious of that laughably positive asn-xp review.

[MarioDonick 752]

The aircraft comes with updateable nav data from Aerosoft (NavDataPro) so I guess there won't be a really hard review on an Aerosoft website

[ohsirus 241]

Looking thru their forums it seems to be a rocky launch. I just can't get over the cabin not being modeled. They really should have priced it lower, sort of a kickstarter and funded some visual improvements.

[stekeller 7]

Happy New Year AVSIM!

 

We were happy to see this announcement on AVSIM and I will go ahead and try to address some of the comments regarding the SSG 747-8i Advanced, which I will paraphrase below:

 

"SSG has bad support"

 

It is hard to answer this one other than to say we do our best. We try to get back to people as soon as possible with a solution to their problem. We are all avid simmers at SSG and we don't like to get the cold shoulder from a developer, so we definitely don't want to treat customers that way. If you have an issue please let me know.

 

"Fan blades are backwards (metal texture on trailing edge)"

 

It's funny that this slipped through the cracks. We had gone back and forth with some different versions of the N1 fan model during development. We will revisit this and where there are errors, they will be corrected. 

 

"FMC is the same as the UFMC. It has no custom avionics package"

 

This is incorrect. Javier is the author of the UFMC and of the FMC in this aircraft, but they are not the same. The FMC is integrated into the displays and autoflight system.

 

"ASN Review came up quick, was too positive, because of ASN's ties to Aerosoft"

 

Angelique was kind enough to try the aircraft through the latter part of the development process. She gave us comments and inputs, and we made changes based on those (she is an aircraft engineer and knows what she is talking about), so that is how she was able to publish a review once the aircraft was released. She has no ties to Aerosoft (although she knows people there) and was stating her real feelings on the aircraft. Generally, those who fly it, like it (rather than looking at videos and screenshots). We understand what people have said about textures, but legibility and usability is good (which is very important to us). 

 

"No EEC or IRS"

 

Well the EECs can be turned on and off, but there is not a whole lot to model there. This is not a procedures sim with cascading malfunctions, etc. As for the IRS, again, these are typically only touched during startup and were not modeled but system implementation will evolve. It is a matter of priorities. Some simmers like to get in and fly, and others like to do everything from "cold and dark" to shutdown. These Boeing airliners are incredibly complex. We tried to achieve a balance so that controls and systems that pilots use during normal flight operations are simulated, with a few non-normal procedures such as engine fires and fuel dumping simulated as well. 

 

"No virtual cabin"

 

This comes down to framerates. I personally don't understand the appeal of a passenger cabin if I am flying an aircraft, but I realize that others really like it. We simply did not want to leave behind a large group of simmers by adding too many polygons. 

 

"Cockpit textures issues"

 

The complaints have been heard ;-)

 

"The product had a rocky launch"

 

And nobody is more upset about that than we are. Unfortunately the problem was beyond our control, but of course we are still responsible. In the end, relatively few users were affected and the activation problem was solved within a few days.

 

Feel free to ask any questions!

 

Sincerely,

 

- Stekeller 

[ohsirus 241]

Stekeller,

 

Thanks for the input I will be looking at the next patch or two before committing to buy.

[jcomm 5,939]

Even without the next patch I have been using it with a lot of joy!

 

Have completed the longest haul flight as an X-Plane simmer in this aircraft, and can't complain about it. Is it perfect? Of course not - there are still some glitches, and features I would like to see added in future updates, but so far so good!

[stekeller 7]

ohsirus:

 

That is fine - thanks for the open mind. If there are features you would like please let us know. Basically we aim to implement as many features as we can, so it helps to let us know if one is more important than another. 

 

jcomm:

 

Glad to hear it! And please let us know about any glitches or features you want added as well.