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This is just a curriosity question. When planning a flight, what do you all use? Do you use FSC (or simular product if there is one) or do you use the flight planner in FSX and program that into the fmc. Just wondering

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I am only using the 777 in fs. Short/medium haul gets boring in fs when you do it for a living.

 

 

PFPX for dispatching. Most of the times I get the routes directly from the company.

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I use Fltplan.com.  It has the benefit of giving you the RW routings that were assigned by ATC that day, too.  It's a great site.

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PFPX to plan the fuel and give performance/weather numbers for my route.  Routes usually blatantly stolen from FlightAware.com.

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Depends. If  can find a real world route I'll use it. If not, I'll create one using FSCommander.

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I used to do a whole bunch of freeware stuff and be very conservative with fuel (talking 3.0 metric tonne reserves in the 737-800 in clear weather and an alternate 75nm away, 15 to 20 metric tonne reserves with the 747 and no less than 13 on the MD11). rFinder, fightaware, skyvector, vataware, simroutes etc have all played their part in the past.

 

These days It's all PFPX.

 

PFPX is just so accurate for fuel, ETOPS, diversion, weather etc planning. It's just so accurate it's uncanny.

 

I find it doesn't always do the best routing, and where possible I will always try to get my hands on a real route. flight-aware still comes in very handy for this, and even if the text of the route isn't available, the 'blue dotted line' of the flightplan will still usually show where the aircraft actually went, then I can adjust the PFPX routing using the map and manually typing in the airways/wapoints/vor's to match where the aircraft is going.

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PFPX, no doubt. 

 

But if I'm doing a domestic flight within North America, I tend to use the flightaware routes.

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Skyvector.com for obtaining airport diagrams, SIDS, STARS, and approach plates

Flightaware for real world routings within the United States

Vataware for international flying

Navigraph for obtaining current nav data for your FMC's

 

All of these sites are free with the exception of Navigraph.

 

Regards

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Why these 2 programs? What PFPX can't do?

 

I bought EFB long time before PFPX, but I look in EFB for SID, STARS and air port maps are better in EFB.

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PFPX. The routes I get from my VA, Flightaware or www.edi-gla.co.uk. I hardly need to create any routes myself.

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Try SimRoutes...its free..........or FSBuild and TopCat.............there not bad..............but not free........

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You do not class fuel calculation as an element of route planning? More of a splash and dash chap?  :wink:

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I'm not aware of fuel calculation capability of topcat, I tought it's performance calculator only.

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I have started using PFPX. integrated with TOPCAT. This month. 

 

Although I still have to check against past VATSIM flights other pilots have flown, for quality.  I felt on occasions that the route PFPX was giving me was slightly unorthodox.

Not necessarily wrong, but different to what people might expect.

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I also forgot to add that I put the planned route into SimBrief for accurate fuel burn calcs. It's free (aside from the Navigraph cycle I buy for it - just a few bucks) and does basically everything a payware flight planner would do. Used to use FSBuild for that, but I prefer Simbrief now.

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I've seen a couple comments in here about TOPCAT and fuel planning, so I'll insert my standard narrative:

 

TOPCAT is NOT a fuel planner.  It never has been.  The fuel ESTIMATE button is there to give you an idea of how heavy the plane might be before you get more exact numbers from a fuel planner (dispatcher, etc).

 

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