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My Review of Carenado Phenom 100.Warning lots of pics!

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For the review I chose a long cross country quite literally across the county from KACK (Nantucket,Massachusetts) to my FS home base of KHQM (Hoquiam,Washington) with fuel stops at KFLD (Fond du Lac, Wisconsin) and KMLS (Miles City, Montana). My scenario was a delivery flight of my new plane.

 

 

 

About to climb aboard my "new" used jet

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 Plush interior

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Wow what a cockpit!

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Seat feels nice

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Engines running ready to taxi

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Taxi out

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Leaving Nantucket behind, headed to KFLD in Wisconsin

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Climbing through 20,000

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At a low cruise alt of 26,000 as there were 140mph headwinds in the 30k range.

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Over lake Michigan.

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Decent into KFLD.

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On final.

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Lets get some fuel stretch our legs and go.

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Climbing out of KFLD for KMLS.

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Headed to FL400

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Nothing beats a sunset at 40,000 feet

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Overall this is a great plane and is very worthy of its asking price. It flys like a fighter and has great equipment. Though some will find the Carenado G1000s lacking in depth I find that they get the job done just fine, Systems wise this plane is pretty basic but I like it that way. As usual with Carenado the visuals are top notch. As for Performance it could be better but no real complaints, On the ground I usually got in the 19-25 FPS range but once at cruise it stayed at my locked 30FPS constantly. My one dislike of this plane is the poor ground handling it takes 70% of N1 just to get it rolling and at least 65% to keep it rolling this isn't realistic at all and is something Carenado needs to fix. The FDE Seems believable though I've never flown a Phenom so I can't really say. One hint I will pass on to anyone who has this plane and is having FPS issues is to turn off the Co-pilots G1000 doing that gave me and extra 5-6 FPS. I give it a Thumbs up and say if your on the fence get off get this plane and fly it.

 

David.

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Geez, I can smell the vinyl ( or is that leather?) :P

 

Thanks for the pics and  your input. Would love to have this plane but until they figure out what is causing the huge fluctuations in fluidity, I'm out. 

 

Bob

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I almost listened to the crowd.  My experience background is light aircraft (RW and Flightsimming), so I do not speak in authority here, but .....  Been a MSFS user since 1995 and have owned three VA's with the current one being www.eaglevalleyair.com.  I own most of the HD aircraft owned by Carenado and from the startup @ FTX Bonner's Ferry to Landing at FTX Bozeman, this is one nice little jet.  Still working on that GPS input though.  LOL  Must read the manual.

 

I must say, I started and stopped this plane with A2A Accufeel engaged.  So, even the normal responses were affected, but I found the plane as good as my RealAir Turbine Duke, A2A 172R with its flight dynamics and gauges that they offer.  Is not every sound recorded.....  LOL why?  What sounds there were was just fine... even the engines.

 

On my flight, it climbed exactly as a B200.  She recorded 160 kts @ 1500 fpm to 10'k, then I dropped the fpm to 1000 and climbed to 18000 @ 154 kts IAS.  Power settings stayed at cruise settings of 82%.  Not bad...  even fantastic.  She picked up speed to a cruise of 230 IAS and a GS of 300 kts plus depending on the winds.  Taxi was done at 48% power with very nice nose wheel steering.

 

I own the B200, 208b, c90, 182T, tbm850 by Carenado and this little AC showed absolutely no impact on my FPS which is set 30.  I have a one year old computer which I built around a Intel i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) - Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD5H WP - 16 GB - 2X EVGA GTX660TI SC - Win 7 64

 

BTW, I own and fly 3 PMDG aircraft and 3 A2A aircraft.  I am a proud owner of a Phenom.  Thank you Carenado....  Cannot wait for your Hawker 850

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What a stunning series of shots, Pappy_Eagle!  Some of those are prize-winning, IMHO.  If you're using ORBX scenery, you should submit a few over there for their monthly "best shots" contest (or maybe there's one here as well, dunno).

 

Anyways, thanks for sharing -- I love these kinds of storytelling pic sequences and try my own lightweight hand at 'em from time to time (over at ORBX forums), when I have the energy.

 

BTW if you DO use ORBX stuff, definitely check out the newly-provided global lights configuration tool; you can really adjust the look and feel of dawn/dusk/night flying with it for a wide range of aesthetic pleasures.

 

I hope this thread stays positive.

 

There's lots of excitement over Prepar3D's latest.  Why? Dramatic graphics improvements and innovations (the shadows stuff is phenomenal, btw, adjusted judiciously).  Sometimes we poo-poo emphasis on graphics but really, it's a fundamental part of the "you are there" experience.  I've slammed all the P3DV2.2 settings up high just to see what it will look like some day when compute power has caught up to the top end they're providing headroom for, and..... wow.  Unbelievable.  Even if only for a few brief, frame-starved moments. :)

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Good to see all this positive feedback on the Phenom. I have no jet experience at all, real or sim, but have been looking forward to getting my feet wet with this one. So much of what has previously been posted has been negative that I had become hesitant. Your pictorial and everyone's positive comments have renewed my interest. Thanks!!

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Beautiful shots!  I've said it before, I'll say it again - that's one pretty plane.

 

Scott

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what a great review, nice to here some positive news, and yes I have the TBM 850, and if she flies like that I might say go for it.  Excellent pictorial, very nice set of shots as well.  Great wok, Indeeed!!!!

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Great pictures! Despite the poor system modelling, the Phenom 100 does look amazing.

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Beautiful shots. 

 

I must admit, I was very disappointed by the lack of system implementation, but this is a stunning aircraft nonetheless. I wonder if Carenado would ever consider letting someone else tinker with their avionics behind the scenes..... :P

 

One quick thing:

 

 

 

On my flight, it climbed exactly as a B200.  She recorded 160 kts @ 1500 fpm to 10'k, then I dropped the fpm to 1000 and climbed to 18000 @ 154 kts IAS.

 

 

If that's the case, something is definitely off with the performance. She should climb healthily at 200 IAS well up into the flight levels.

 

 

Another thing...with the sounds.....having flown on the real aircraft, the engine sounds seem off. Are they meant to simulate the sounds while wearing a noise-cancelling headset? Sounds almost muted.

 

They seem to have gotten the air conditioning sound just right though....that vent at the back of the cabin is LOUD (in flight).

 

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Another thing...with the sounds.....having flown on the real aircraft, the engine sounds seem off. Are they meant to simulate the sounds while wearing a noise-cancelling headset? Sounds almost muted.

 

That wouldn't surprise me.  I know Carenado has done this with the Malibu Mirage, and it's one of the only things I don't like about the Mirage.

 

Scott

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For all my enthusiasm for the Phenom, I will agree that for those worried about the performance issues, wait to see what the consensus is after the patch -- I'm not having such issues, but clearly some are.

 

And if the FLC pitch-not-throttle and TO/GA things matter a lot to you, those criticisms are real, as well (and it sounds like the Flight1 Mustang has all that down if you want it).

 

If you're running this in P3DV2.2: work on tuning the new shadows options carefully; I think the EMB500 might be eating some frames there with some settings, have to give it more testing.

 

Steve

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Amazing pictures, thanks for sharing, it makes me want to abandon work right now and head home to start those little engines. I'm so hooked up with this little plane despite the negative comments.

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Thanks for the review and the pics. These were instrumental (along with several other reviews) on inspiring me to acquire the Phenom. This is my first post in the avsim forums although I've been reading various reviews and posts for several months now. I am impressed.

 

The Carenado Phenom is an amazing aircraft - my favourites up until the Phenom were the F33 and A36 Bonanza, B58 Baron, TBM 850 etc. but the Phenom crossed a line for sim flying enjoyment. There was a bit of a learning curve but well worth the time spent.

 

I created a 5:00 minute video which may add to your review in conveying how much fun this aircraft is to fly. It is a landing attempt I made at Courchevel presented in much the same way as an actual sim flight, for me.

 

 

Again thanks for your review and hope this helps others.

 

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"I created a 5:00 minute video which may add to your review in conveying how much fun this aircraft is to fly. It is a landing attempt I made at Courchevel presented in much the same way as an actual sim flight, for me."

 

Hi,

I enjoyed watching your Courchevel video, although I'm not so sure that I'd want to be a passenger in your jet!

A while ago, a company used to fly passenger Dash-7's in/out of Courchevel LFLJ, so it shows what can be done, given short field capabilities, which the Phenom possibly hasn't got.

I saw that you just manged to run off the end of the runway, but if you install the following brilliantly detailed freeware scenery for LFLJ (it includes other French altiports), you'll have more of a chance because they have sloped runways like their realworld counterparts, and this should give you a fighting chance to stop before the mountain starts!

Good Luck, and keep us posted!

Fabio

 

File: altiports_alpesxv2.zip (Simviation)

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Fabs happy to hear you enjoyed the video. The intent was to try a challenging runway in a scenic area and to convey the fun of flying the Carenado Phenom. It is indeed a blast!

 

"I'm not so sure that I'd want to be a passenger in your jet!"

 

Virtual Reality Air Sickness bags are provided and thank god for the runway buffer! ;) Hitting either the runway at the wrong angle or going too far beyond the buffer zone forces FSX to issue a crash error. This is the beauty and misfortune of simulation specifically on the simulator reset. :(

 

In reality (so I read), the landing distance required (sans incline) for the Dash 7 is 3000 ft (915m) and for the Embraer Phenom 100, 2722 ft (830m). Indeed, since the runway at Courchevel is 1722 ft (525m) long, the stopping distance required would be less due to the gradient. Therefore, with a little more practice I could likely avoid the buffer zone :).  In FSX there appears to be a gradient, but I cannot tell what effect, if any, it might have.

 

As I understand, this particular version of the Embraer Phenom 100 by Carenado does not have speed brakes or reverse thrust, unlike the Dash 7 which has the later.  Carenado designed their Phenom after the original manufacturer variant, however, one or both of these features were incorporated in a later version.

 

Thanks for the Simviation file information. I will give it a try... just need to make sure it doesn't conflict with my Orbx FTX install.

 

Thanks for your feedback. Much appreciated.

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Hi,

I think there's an updated version of the Courchevel scenery floating around (if I find the file, I'll post an update).

It's a very testing airportenvironment, and I must confess that my Phenom landing attempt even on a sloping runway was considerably worse than I was hoping for, and I didn't even gather enough airspeed to takeoff downhill either.

With that in mind, I wouldn't want to be a pax on my own jet, LOL!

Good luck!

Fabio

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Hey Fabio,

 

I finally got around to a take-off attempt from Courchevel (pre-scenery update). 

 

Not pretty...even backing up to the tree line created a pax mortem as well as captain and first officer result  ;)

 

If you come across the updated scenery let me know...but don't sweat it.

 

Thanks for your input Fabio.

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Hi,

Still at Simviation: altiportsalpesxv2.zip

I have FTX Global/Vector and it's fine with those.

Do keep me posted, afraid I'm not having much luck even going downhill in a tuck position at Courchevel, but I can get the Phenom easily(ish) in and out of KAVX Catalina (exceptional taster freeware by Sim720; Aerosoft).

BTW, Courchevel with Winter textures looks utterly superb.

Good luck!

Fabio

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Hi Stofvel, fantastic video, thank you. Would not liked to have been sitting second chair. Lol

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Finally finished up the most recent video using the LLH Courchevel add-on complete with 18.5º inclined runway. Added departure from Lyon - the scenery between Lyon and Courchevel is spectacular particularly with Orbx FTX Global (base). 

 

Thanks Flywheel47 for your comments. I am not so sure the inclined runway (in the latest video) will make you any less queasy on the landing compared to the default runway. 

 

Hope Fabio gets the link - it was the members in this forum and others that inspired the updated video with a most realistic Courchevel altiport. More and better to come. Did a test departure from Courchevel (again in the Phenom) went great including the V1 speed attained post runway :). Amazing from the tower perspective.

 

Here is the link:

 

 

Thanks again, all.

 

Stofvel

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Hi,

What a fantastic video! It's amongst the very best that I have seen, with a great intro and story to it.

The scenery really is good, and the flight, well, what can I say?....

I'd be happy to be a passenger!

Best wishes,

Fabio

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Thanks Fabio. It was great to fly and fun to put together albeit time consuming. Plan-G came in handy for the final. The intent of the video was to convey as much as is possible the feeling of being there from as many perspectives as possible.

 

There are two scenarios for the Courchevel add-on  - Winter and Summer.  Part 2 - Courchevel to Lyon will utilize the Summer version. Part 2 is only in planning stage until time becomes available - but it's on back burner.

 

Thanks again.

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