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Differences between PMDG and IFly NGX on P3D?

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Since the PMDG is declared 'broken' on P3D elsewhere on this forum, I would like to know the differences between the ifly and the pmdg?

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Paul, as regards P3D, the iFly is currently able to be purchased/supported by the commercial arm of Flight1.  PMDG has yet to have any product released/supported for P3D.  Your question is therefore moot.

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Since the PMDG is declared 'broken' on P3D elsewhere on this forum, I would like to know the differences between the ifly and the pmdg?

 

Differences are thst Ifly support P3D already and PMDG not yet.

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Let me refrase...I am fully aware that the PMDG is not yet available on P3D. In that way my topic title is misleading...

I am willing to buy the the NGX iFly, but uncertain in comparison with the PMDG version.

In the meanwhile I read some reviews. And everything is fantastic, realistic.

Well, I thought I might ask the forum members who have experience in flying the iFly and the PMDG version...

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Eh... I used ifly in fsx, I didn't like it.. Sorry just felt cheap... For lack of better word. If I never had PMDG then maybe I wouldn't know the difference .. But yeah ifly I wasn't impressed ... Feels like there is something missing .

I did manage to install and successfully use the better one in p3d (test purposes) ;) but I'm awaiting official version.

I too though of ifly but from my experience in Fsx I just tried and tried and trued to get the better one working and I did. The only problem I have is sun reflections don't really look very good on it but again it's not meant for p3d but I can deal with it. If you used PMDG in FSX I don't think you will like ifly in p3d, wait for official or try the one you have there are some videos explaining how to solve the tcas problem and I got everything working here as I did my test install ;)

Andy

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I purchased the iFly NGX for P3D. I had a real issue with frame rates. For $79 you would have thought they would have optimized it for P3D. I took advantage of the refund.

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I have both versions for FSX and the IFly also for P3D, The IFly737NGX is much better than the PMDG version which I never fly now. Added to that is the most helpful and friendly support forums you will find within the Flightsim community.  Any drivers that you may need to connect external hardware are also supplied free. Buy it, you will not be disappointed. No problem with frame rates for me.

William

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Let me refrase...I am fully aware that the PMDG is not yet available on P3D. In that way my topic title is misleading...

I am willing to buy the the NGX iFly, but uncertain in comparison with the PMDG version.

In the meanwhile I read some reviews. And everything is fantastic, realistic.

Well, I thought I might ask the forum members who have experience in flying the iFly and the PMDG version...

 

I would wait for PMDG version - from what I have heard IFLY is hard to get setup - terrible on fps - I had fsx version - I think I used 4 times - if you cant wait then you better have a great pc otherwise you might be wasting a lot of money but hey there might be a 30 day refund as it is a flight1 product so look into that

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I used the Ifly in FSX and had about the same fps as with the PMDG version which I used too.

No problems setting it up and the Ifly can be used with the PMDG tutorials, beside the already existing Ifly tutorials.

 

Later I switched to the IFly Cockpit Builders Edition for FSX and recently to the Ifly CBE for P3Dv2.

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So far one of the main differences, to me, is being left out.  The textures in the ifly do not hold a candle to the PMDG NGX.  The ifly 737 has cheap textures and there is not nearly as much eye candy as the PMDG.  Systems wise it is solid, but to me there is no comparison... I will be picking up the PMDG NGX the moment it hits the website.

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Hmm a lot of differing opinions here Paul. Flight 1 still offer their 30 day refund with no questions asked so you should just give it a try. Like Gerard I now run the IFly Cockpit Builders Edition.

William

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Some differences:

 

  • iFly offers more variants in the base package, PMDG they are extra
  • PMDG has a better HUGS that is collimated
  • PMDG has better cockpit textures
  • iFly was made to interface to external hardware a bit easier that the PMDG, the cockpit builders edition takes it to the next level but this is an additional $500 or so - PMDG has nothing to compare to this it can on run on 1 PC 
  • iFly has a working WX radar if using ASN
  • PMDG has more realistic lighting (i.e more zones , more functional dimmers etc)
  • PMDG has slightly more systems modeled (I think)
  • iFly has a 2D panel if thats your thing

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The iFly 737 hands down. You get the full product range from the 600 to BBJ's.

The iFly can fly RNP AR type approaches and an arc with it....something quite remiss in the PMDG product.

The support is ongoing and the product is kept up to date. It flies like it is on rails.

It's never left in the virtual hangar for long and is my go to aircraft for shorthaul jet flying.

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The fact that this is always a highly opinionated debate should clue you in as it's up to the pilot. You can't lose either way. 

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I purchased the iFly NGX for P3D. I had a real issue with frame rates. For $79 you would have thought they would have optimized it for P3D. I took advantage of the refund.

Respectfully, Milk, but that is pretty much meaningless without knowing your system specs, which you appear to have neglected to post.

 

Chas

The fact that this is always a highly opinionated debate should clue you in as it's up to the pilot. You can't lose either way.

 

Sorry Osiris, but for those of us on fixed incomes, a choice like this is loss ridden if the wrong choice is made...

 

Chas

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Chas

Sorry Osiris, but for those of us on fixed incomes, a choice like this is loss ridden if the wrong choice is made...

 

Chas

 

You don't have a wrong choice to make.

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Respectfully, Milk, but that is pretty much meaningless without knowing your system specs, which you appear to have neglected to post.

 

Chas,

          I'm not sure why my computer specs no longer appear to the left. Here they are:

 
  • Processor
    I7 2600K
  • Processor Cores
    4
  • Processor Speed
    4.6GHZ
  • RAM
    8GB
  • Video Board Manufacturer
    EVGA
  • Video Board Model
    EVGA GTX770 4GB
  • Video Memory
    !GB
  • Mother Board
    ASUS P8P67
  • Hard Drives
    3, 1SSD, 2 mechanical
  • Monitor
    23in. 1920x1080
  • Operating System
    Windows7
  • Joystick
    Logitech Attack3
  • Yoke
    Saitek
  • Rudder Pedals
    Saitek
The iFly 737 is the only aircraft I've flown in P3D that I've had a major problem with. The only other one would be the Captain Sim 777. The OP asked for experiences and I gave him mine.

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Chas,

I'm not sure why my computer specs no longer appear to the left. ...

...The iFly 737 is the only aircraft I've flown in

 

I messed up! ....didn't see them when I tapped your profile...they ARE there.... And gratifyingly enough...you have "MY SPECS" ...so we can be twinsies and compare sh*t...

...sorry for that

 

...not really...

 

By the way, I was advized by one of the senior members, that the reason that the specs are no longer underneath our icons is because it was causing a real system slow down… As I mentioned back to them, I would much prefer to see that data even if the system is slower… How about you?

 

I digress...

Mike, You just saved me a bundle!..

 

..I am NOT buying the IFLY737!

 

I do love my NGX, when I can get it to run!

 

To those looking, compare, you will NEVER, EVER, find a 737 better made, more in depth, more a "study aircraft", more "real as it comes", than the PMDG NGX....AND I will give away my 24" 1080P Monitor to anyone who can present definitive evidence to the contrary. Rob, our stalwart steward of all things P3D, will kindly adjudicate.

 

...bottom line, you have to do the research I have and look at the videos I have and listen to FrugalPete the way I have an tuns of other sources to be able to understand how secure I am in my opinion.

 

Do your due diligence or just plain believe me. I suggest former, cause I've done the legwork....and now Mwilk fills in the last gap & convinces me to wait for PMDG's P3D 737 NGX.

 

Since my wife just heard me dictate this on my iPad, she said I sounded hostile and arrogant... I absolutely disagree with the former and absolutely agree with the latter.

 

Regards,

Chas

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There you have it, another passionate simmer for their 737 of choice. There is a thread that discusses ifly 737 in P3D performance as it seems fps locked at around 20+ .

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Hi,

 

I would like to thank you all for your opinions. It is great that you all took the time to elaborate on the subject.

 

I know now that it is a close call for flying. At least that is how I take it reading the posts. System depth and the 'looks' are other points to consider.

Mmm, don't know what to do yet. 

 

Price as mentioned by mr. Randazzo ('...less then 200 bucks...') could become a problem though...

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Hi,

 

I would like to thank you all for your opinions. It is great that you all took the time to elaborate on the subject.

 

I know now that it is a close call for flying. At least that is how I take it reading the posts. System depth and the 'looks' are other points to consider.

Mmm, don't know what to do yet. 

 

Price as mentioned by mr. Randazzo ('...less then 200 bucks...') could become a problem though...

 

Here's the link on the FPS issue with P3Ds Ifly, I imagine PMDG will overcome the 20fps barrier.

http://forum.avsim.net/topic/439558-ifly-737-for-prepar3d-v22/page-2#entry3060591

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BTW I read today that I am breaking the EULA with trying to fly the PMDG.

So that definitely solves the problem which NGX to fly in P3D...

No more PMDG flying... Sh*t.

 

Anyway thanks again.

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