For me, P3Dv2 is the best thing ever. Really. No crashes, smooth (locked @ 40 fps) with the correct settings, and loaded with the usual scenery/environment add-ons and aircraft. Visually, the difference is huge. Just look at all the videos and screenshots out there.

 

+1 here.

 

Human nature is built in a way that 4 times more people are eager to share their bad experience than a good one. This is why, when you read forums here, you can get impression that "loads of the people are unhappy".

 

Just briefly browse through this topic:

http://forum.avsim.net/topic/452525-poll-happy-with-24-1-for-yes-0-for-no/

 

Or see the poll here:

http://forum.avsim.net/topic/452620-install-24-or-sit-this-one-out/

 

Most of the people ARE happy with version 2.4.

Of course, there are some issues, but which software doesn't have it?

 

Lukasz

Not really. Loads of people suffering from runtime errors when running with tessellation off and lots of OOM issues reported.

 

P3D is stable enough for me but then I don't fly big jets on long flights. Like everyone else - P3D will crash if you run it with tessellation ticked OFF. Annoying for those with less powerful CPU/GPU's!

 

Will it be fixed? We've been waiting months and months so far.

Indeed, I agree, there are people still suffering from crashes and OOM's. I had them myself in the early builds of P3D2 (R6025 pure virtual function, ntdll crash, and a few others). Those things are resolved for me and I hope these will for others soon too. There are things one can do by him/her self. With legacy add-on scenery I always sit there for a while just watching FSUIPC log for possible VAS depletion. Had this with AS LPPT V1 where a bgl was leaking memory fast. Another sudden crash without any report was identified as a faulty AI model (MD80). Since then no problems except a few minor issues (graphically). Besides that, with about double the amount of autogen and traffic compared to FSX, including great freeware ship traffic by H. Nielsen at 100% and shadows almost maxed, I don't get OOM's. But this may be due to that I'm only running the sim on a single monitor at 1920*1080. To summarize about loads and lots: Could well be that there are 100 users reporting problems, understandable that's where you hear from. The other 79,900 who don't have these issues you won't hear them much

 

Kind regards,

OP have you checked the official P3D forum?

 

http://www.prepar3d.com/forum-5/forum/prepar3d-application-support/prepar3d-client-application-questions/

 

Check through all the V2.4 thread titles if you haven't already - that will give you an excellent idea of the current issues customers are having with the software.

 

I am really getting to like P3D but to say it doesn't crash is incorrect. My FSX DX10 installation is more stable than P3D but I prefer P3D for visuals.

 

Would I recommend you purchase it?

 

Yes - because despite the teething problems P3D will probably be the future of WIndows based flight sim games.

ANY software has problems - some major and some minor. Unfortunately, reading the support forums can give you skewed information because, by nature, the posters are generally having a problem. What you DON'T see is the majority of users who do NOT have a problem and don't bother to post.

 

Look for people with systems similar to yours and see if they seem to be having problems - that may give you some idea.

 

Bottom line - if a majority of users were having SERIOUS problems, the product would not be selling.

 

Personally, other than the few documented problems (spinning clouds, etc) I have had NO consistent show stoppers. I've had an OOM every now and then when pushing the limits. I've had a few ai_player.dll crashes but nothing that I can repeat.

 

So yes, I agree with TrafficPilot - go for it - you will not be sorry.

 

Vic

Rob ...don't waste your breath my friend ....

 

You are an ambassador to Prepar3D .. and such a shame your comments were rubbished

 

To the Topic starter

 

It's simple

 

Prepar3D 10 ....... FSX 0

 

No question ... no debate ... it's a fact !!!

 

FSX ..... R I P

 

B)

 

 

Not question ... no debate ... it's a fact !!!

Still just a personal opinion.

Anyway, if your thread is serious, then I suggest you test out P3D and decide for yourself ... 60 day refund policy.

 

And loads of people NOT suffering from runtime errors and OOMs with or without tessellation. 

 

Rob, reading many of your posts, one can come to a conclusion that you are tremendously happy with P3D- that is a good thing (for you). I don't think anyone will join this forum, and invest time in asking and researching about P3D , for no good reason. Many of us don't go by superficial or "over-joyed" comments. We prefer facts.. in this case, solid and significant facts. I have invested well over $8,0000 on simming over the past years. I am about to build my 4th computer from scratch, and even though I have more money than I can count, I want to have a good sim experience, and not spend time tweaking here and there..... like we did with FSX. (that's all)

 

(ok, that comment: "I have more money than I can count" is a lie)

 

Anyway, thanks, Rob. Let me say this: " You are convincing me!

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Yes - because despite the teething problems P3D will probably be the future of WIndows based flight sim games.

Umm...you tipped your hand.  Better not let LM see this post.

Such a lovely paradox we've moved into with P3D; BTW I agree with TrafficPilot.

 

 

Let me say this: " You are convincing me!

 

I gave up trying to convince people many many years ago ... 60 day money back, try it and make up your own mind up.

 

Who is the "we" and "many of us"?

 

And what "facts" are you specifically looking for?  I don't subscribe to the process of proving my science ... I present information and it'll be up to those interested how they interpret that information.

 

You will most likely tweak something because you'll have a specific goal/requirement that will not meet your needs.  My personal experience is that P3D has required the least amount of "tweaking" compared to FSX and XP10.  But I don't really have a big problem with making adjustments, they can be very rewarding at times.

 

You don't need a lot of money to enjoy any flight sim platform.

 

Having a good experience will be very much up to you and what you want to make of it.

 

Cheers, Rob.

The "documented" issues are enough for me to stay well clear of P3D v2 for now

 

-Spinning clouds

-Bridges that stretch thousands of feet into the sky

-Black spots on the terrain when enabling Terrain and Cloud shadows at the same time

 

Visual artifacts like these completely negate the benefit of moving to a brand new 3D engine (which was to improve quality and reliability). Some are not observant enough to see them and some are not bothered, but hose are not system-specific issues, they happen on every single system.

 

I'm still waiting for any kind of communication from LM on these issues and when they plan to fix them. Once they do, I'll certainly take another look at P3D.

 

Note that the money-back guarantee can only be used *once*. People like me that already took advantage of the return policy during the great OOM fiasco of v2.1 cannot use it a second time. The same could happen if you decide to give it a chance now, hoping that they fix the current issues without introducing new ones.

The "documented" issues are enough for me to stay well clear of P3D v2 for now

 

-Spinning clouds

-Bridges that stretch thousands of feet into the sky

-Black spots on the terrain when enabling Terrain and Cloud shadows at the same time.

 

I never had any of these issues since I use v2.4. As Rob says, try it for yourself and if you don't like it or have issues on your setup get a refund. Although I was reluctant to try out Prepar3d as well, now I will never look back to FSX. I have great performance on my almost seven year old pc with fairly high settings. I am a bush flyer though, so I don't really stress the sim.

 

 

I never had any of these issues since I use v2.4. As Rob says, try it for yourself and if you don't like it or have issues on your setup get a refund. Although I was reluctant to try out Prepar3d as well now I will never look back to FSX, I have great performannce on my almost seven year old pc with fairly high settings. I am a bush flyer though, so I don't really stress the sim.

 

How's the water these days?  I haven't upgraded to 2.4 but in 2.3 it's quite nearly black or, if it does have texture, it looks frozen.

I use REX 4 water textures and I think that looks good. Depending on the light the water can seem dark though, but that's normal, also in real life. Most of the time the water looks very natural to my taste.

Every sim has bugs, perhaps less glaring in some respects, but in all cases it's the total experience one would have to judge to tell if the situation is worthwhile.

 

Unfortunately, since some are not in the position to try the current version they must rely on abstract details. I can only suggest this, if you like fsx from a platform perspective then there should be no reason to not support Prepar3d. It is FSX further devoloped... and you might be in the same position now if Microsoft was the one developing it.

 

Remember fs9 to FSX etc etc. This is nothing new. It is the nature of development for bugs /incompatiblies to show up (wait till p3d goes 64bit...lol), LM have proven committed to the platform, they are worth the investment.

 

Short of that, if fsx is your Sim of choice, there is nothing wrong with that, but your choices will remain anchored to that. But that is your choice.

I've been using P3Dv2 for about two months.  I have quite a few payware addon aircraft, my favorite now being the Q400, installed, many FTX products and MyTraffic. 

Everything is working fine.  I'm very impressed with the performance and shadowing so far.

I'm using FSPS Fiber Accelerator for P3D, and see a marked improvement once it is turned on.

So...all is good and I'm a happy P3Dv2 user.

I also still use FSX, especially for my PMDG aircraft. Also use Fiber Accelerator with it.  FSX also runs great and so I have no complaints about it either.

I believe the best thing to do to make either of the sims work good is to manage your scenery well.  Turn off what you're not using and use the Scenery Config Editor program, which works for both FSX and P3D.