Seems that DTG has postings for SW engineers to work on their FS. I hope they will attract the necessary talent. They know if they build the better sim that the FS community will follow en masse, eagerly with their credit cards in hand. We should at least take comfort that their target market is us, which is unlike P3D.

Holy Opportunity of a Lifetime: I meet the qualifications for this position! Too bad I'm stuck here in the USA working software in an aerospace company's leading edge realtime simulation facility. BTW, since I do actually have years of experience working on real life, honest to god, professionally run simulations, IMO FSX is a SIM. The full dissertation for my rational isn't worth my time to explain, and regardless of that, there will be the nay sayers who "know better".

We should at least take comfort that their target market is us, which is unlike P3D.

 

I'm curious ... I've heard this "target market" come up many times, can you tell me exactly how that's significant?

 

I want to experience a flight simulator at what point is that not achievable in FSX, P3D, DG's new flight sim, DCS, Xplane?  I pay my $5, $60, $?, free + $50-60 aircraft, $60 ... in all cases my money is valid and license was purchased and I'm flying and under no legal threat.  End results in all of them are the same ... so not really sure how "target market" really affects me or anyone?

 

Cheers, Rob.

Rob, all I will say is this:  If anyone even looks cross-eyed at P3D, you seem to always get all stirred up.

 

 

We should at least take comfort that their target market is us, which is unlike P3D.

 

 

 

Rob, all I will say is this:  If anyone even looks cross-eyed at P3D, you seem to always get all stirred up.

 

Wow, you started on P3D, then made a quip that Rob gets annoyed when people "look cross-eyed" at P3D.  I often think that Rob gets a hard time from some members of this community.

 

How do you know that DTG target market is us i.e. people posting on this forum?  It might be that they are aiming at more casual pilots?  We know nothing at all about the new sim that DTG are offering, good or bad.  We can only go off the already released products and with that in mind, i would trust LM to deliver the goods over DTG.

If anyone even looks cross-eyed at P3D, you seem to always get all stirred up

 

False, anyway, you know the restrictions they been posted for all to see for over a year now ... if you're offering legal advice then this is not the place to do it.

 

Cheers, Rob.

Pipe down, people. We're talking about flight sim here, not how to save the world. Jeez.

 

 

I'm curious ... I've heard this "target market" come up many times, can you tell me exactly how that's significant?

 

Yes, we are simmers/gamers, not pilots in training or students in training or educators. That is how it is significant. It will be a product licensed towards us.

About a half-hour's Metro ride from me is the National Air and Space museum, which I believe qualifies as the most-visited museum in the world.  I haven't verified that... but it certainly does manage to pack them in.

 

It packs them in by offering everything from highly serious aircraft conservation and scholarship to paper-airplane contests and hands-on "how things fly" exhibits with lots of cranks and buttons for the kids to push and turn.

 

What it doesn't do is say, "unless you're an ultimately serious airplane person who knows every step of every procedure, you can't set foot in here."

 

The casual appeal and sense of fun doesn't seem to contradict or interfere with the scholarship.

 

Am wondering why a flight-related computer offering can't do the same.

 

Thank you.

Yes, we are simmers/gamers, not pilots in training or students in training or educators. That is how it is significant. It will be a product licensed towards us.

 

Speak for yourself.  

 

One of the clearly stated license uses is "Simulation", it's right there on the license page for the professional license.

How do you know that DTG target market is us i.e. people posting on this forum?  It might be that they are aiming at more casual pilots?  We know nothing at all about the new sim that DTG are offering, good or bad.  We can only go off the already released products and with that in mind, i would trust LM to deliver the goods over DTG.

 

 

Speak for yourself.  

 

One of the clearly stated license uses is "Simulation", it's right there on the license page for the professional license.

 

 

They have been pretty clear that they are making a consumer simulator for the avid simmer and casual enthusiast alike. So we know that it is targeted towards everyone, not just undergrad academics, licensed pilots, or commercial users. 

 

Of course its a "simulation", because its pixels and polys but it is for a target which is not the entertainment based consumer. Im not going to discuss EULA's here but its all in writing for you if you chose to look it up on that same website. 

They have been pretty clear that they are making a consumer simulator for the avid simmer and casual enthusiast alike. So we know that it is targeted towards everyone, not just undergrad academics, licensed pilots, or commercial users. 

 

Yeah i'm sure that they have...didn't MS say exactly the same thing about Flight, doesn't North Korea call itself the Democratic People's Republic of Korea?  I refer you to the currently released DTG products and invite you to extrapolate based upon that information as to the 'simulator' we will receive.

 

...and again (i get rather tired of pointing this out) one of the stated uses on the LM license page is SIMULATION!

I refer you to the currently released DTG products and invite you to extrapolate based upon that information as to the 'simulator' we will receive.

 

No need to 'extrapolate', all you have to do is reading and listening. All their statements, videos and posts are consistent about this point and are in plain English. They target both audiences.

If this is clear to a non-native English speaker idiot like me, it should be clear to you as well.

No need to 'extrapolate', all you have to do is reading and listening. All their statements, videos and posts are consistent about this point and are in plain English. They target both audiences.

If this is clear to a non-native English speaker idiot like me, it should be clear to you as well.

 

What Videos of the Sim?  I know they have made some vaguely reassuring statements, forgive me for being a little jaded, but MS said the same things about Flight, which is ironic (i guess) because i imagine that is exactly what we are going to get.

 

I remain eager to see the sim DTG has in store, i'm just not optimistic.

What Videos of the Sim?  I know they have made some vaguely reassuring statements, forgive me for being a little jaded, but MS said the same things about Flight, which is ironic (i guess) because i imagine that is exactly what we are going to get.

 

TheFlightSimGuy posted a link to a video some pages ago.

 

 

I remain eager to see the sim DTG has in store, i'm just not optimistic.

 

Only time will tell.

 

 

One of the clearly stated license uses is "Simulation", it's right there on the license page for the professional license.

Yep, which I am sure fits.