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Paul_Yorks

Does P3D 3 = P3D 2.6?

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A very disappointing release.

 

I see nothing here to justify a new premium, and won't be upgrading.

 

Are we really so desperate for a new FS solution that we'll accept a few bugfixes as an excuse to screw us for another fee?

 

I'll stick with 2.5.

 

A great shame: since a really good step forward for FSim might have created a fantastic profit opportunity for those in the biz, too.

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Was it really necessary to start a new topic for this...? Seriously...

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I see nothing here to justify a new premium, and won't be upgrading.

 

Do you have V3 installed and have you used it?  Don't recall seeing you on the Beta Team.

 

Cheers, Rob.

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Was it really necessary to start a new topic for this...? Seriously...

 

Yes i agree,  Lets not get carried away.  

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Sorry, but if you really think it's v2.6... you simply have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. There are sooo many changes to Prepar3D v3 that aren't simply on a list of 'things';. Many of them you'd not even care to learn about, but they're there and they make a major difference in the product in many ways.

 

The bug list isn't the only thing that was changed about the product... it's just the only thing about the product's changes you understand.

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Here's the beauty of the thing. If you don't think it's worthwhile, don't buy it. All of your current addons will continue to work in 2.5. I would think that most new software would be backward compatible with earlier versions.

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No I don't have v3.  Nor do I see a straightforward thread here about the new upgrade being less than a Point release - which is exactly why I thought a separate new thread might be useful.

 

Really, is there no room for dissent here?  There is nothing here to justify a full price/no upgrade path approach.

 

So I will do the "don't buy it" thing.  That surely doesn't mean I can't express a view about it.

 

Give me 64bit.  I'll pay what you like.  Give me a few tweaks and ask me to pay full whack?  I will not.  And I am a P3D supporter. But not at any cost.

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There is nothing here to justify a full price/no upgrade path approach.

You truly don't know that at all. It's your assumption based on misperceptions made by others with regards to a list of changes. That list isn't comprehensive and most definitely doesn't show all that has changed.

 

This is not a point release, by any standard.

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Really, is there no room for dissent here? There is nothing here to justify a full price/no upgrade path approach.

 

Of course there is room for dissent.

 

But it seems there's not enough room in here for your opinion, if no one is allowed to dissent from it?

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Should I instead state I dissent your dissent and raise you an assertion???

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Right now I'm about 80/20 on upgrading. I want to see how big the frame improvements are, but since I'm eligeble for the discounted license I will probably just go for it anyway.

 

But seriously, please stop complaining about the price... It is actually very cheap when you think about it.

 

1 night at Casino or nice restaurant = 3 hours and $200-$300 = $100/hour

 

1 P3D V3 license (orbx and PMDG upgrades will be free) = 500 hours and $200 = $0.4/hour

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Give me a few tweaks and ask me to pay full whack?

 

I'm just curious at how you can formulate this opinion without actually trying V3?  Refund policy is the same as before with V2, buy a license, if you don't find value in V3, get a refund.

 

Cheers, Rob.

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Look there are very few people I take notice of on most forums.Rob is one of the few I trust to give an honest opinion.if he says it's worth it..then that's enough for me..not Brownosing,just saying what I believe.i had a quick look at the list of fixes and improvements and coupled with Robs opinion of it ...I'm in ...can't wait for the release tomorrow.

 

 steve

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Really, is there no room for dissent here?

 

There sure is but I think that there's little appetite--and rightfully so--of people clowning around over something they don't even have yet.

 

p.s. Can't believe I just fed the troll.

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Philip, can you point to where I said my opinion was the only one?

 

My "dissent" point was made because 5 out of the 5 immediate responses to my OP were "why post this" - please read them again.  5 out of 5.

 

It's depressing, when you make a pretty obvious point (like, the new release is disappointing), that you are met with "don't post this" in response to your complaint.

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Philip, can you point to where I said my opinion was the only one?

 

Think you picked that up wrong 

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Why do so many people around here have to start moaning about P3D v3 without having used it? It's not even released. This is so ridicolous. Have you guys ever thought about how a development team and beta testers who have put in a lot of effort into P3D v3 feel when people start to complain without having seen the final product? This is really a joke. Just shut up and don't buy if you don't like it (without having seen the product yet)...

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I don't know what all the fuss is by the naysayers. This product has a 60 day money back satisfaction guarantee.

Tomorrow you can buy it then you have 60 days to evaluate it. If you are not satisfied for any reason at all you can get

a full refund. Under those conditions it seems to me to be highly irrational to be critical rather than open minded about

something you have not even experienced yet!  :smile:

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I'm really surprised by the response to my post.

 

I'd like to apologise to you all, for upsetting you.  Sorry.  I didn't mean it.

 

All I thought was: this looks like a really minor upgrade, and I'm ###### off that I have to pay full whack for it.

 

But it seems that expressing that view is offensive.  Sorry again.

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just checked pricing.in the Uk it will cost me £39.50.that is peanuts for the amount of hours and pleasure I will get from it.

literally hundreds of hours of entertainment for such a small amount is fantastic .yet people still moan,do these people realise how lucky we are to even have a flight simulator at all.not so long ago all we had was MSFlight.

 

 steve

 

Paul its not offensive to post an opinion,it's just that yours is ill informed.go to the P3D  website and check the list of fixes and improvements  and also the new additions and come back and tell me it's 2.6.it's a whole new ballgame.

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Sorry, but if you really think it's v2.6... you simply have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. There are sooo many changes to Prepar3D v3 that aren't simply on a list of 'things';. Many of them you'd not even care to learn about, but they're there and they make a major difference in the product in many ways.

 

The bug list isn't the only thing that was changed about the product... it's just the only thing about the product's changes you understand.

 

Agreed. Even though I bashed it a bit before, it does have quite a few new and cool features and I could see why we would have to buy it again. Still, 2.5 works just fine for me the way it is.

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Paul you do have the right to your opinion, if you don't want to buy it, then don't buy it, simple, I'm not offended in the least, if there are folks who are upset they will just have to get over it, period. I'm one of the one's that will probably buy it

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check the list of fixes and improvements and also the new additions and come back and tell me it's 2.6.it's a whole new ballgame

 

Better yet, how about people actually try it first. Oh, and get this: if you don't like it, get your money back. Try that with a lot of software...

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just checked pricing.in the Uk it will cost me £39.50.that is peanuts for the amount of hours and pleasure I will get from it.

 

+1 Steve.... and that equates to about four rounds of drinks in my local Pub. Sort of puts it into perspective doesn't it.

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