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Hi All,

 

Right now I am running FSX on a Win 7/64 machine with no particular problems.  Am debating whether or not to switch to Win 10 but am concerned that it may result in problems with my addons.  I use Saitek yoke, throttles, pedals, multipanel, and radio panel, plus many aircraft addons (including PMDG NGX), ORBX scenery, AS Next, Track IR, and EZDOK.

 

Would appreciate any advice from those who have made the switch and what problems they may have experienced.  Sure would hate to mess up my setup and be sorry I switched.  Also, is there any improvement in FSX with Win 10.

 

Thanks for any advice.

 

Jim

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Did a full uninstall before the switch and reinstalled after, and no problem with FSX itself were observed. However, be ready for some quirk in W10.

 

Also I think I read about someone having driver issue with Saitek hardware under W10, and there are threads about that around. You might want to check those out.

 

EDIT: Be sure to switch to windowed mode before accessing any menu in-game if you don't run DX10, or there would only be a black screen, at least on some setups.

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"Why fix it, if it aint broken"?

 

I believe I heard that somewhere...

 

Happily using Win7-64 and staying there  :smile:

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I'm with Bert.  My brother switched to Win10 a while back, had all sorts of issues (things were just broken and needed TLC to get working again, re-installs, different drivers, or none existed.  He got fed up and rolled back to Win7.

 

He asked me if I'd changed yet...and guess what I said:

 

"if it ain't broke don't fix it".

 

cheers

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Like Bert I'm staying with 7,  have read that 10 has no advantage  and that  it was developed more for media and gaming as in shoot em type games. Looking at commercial FS add-ons like scenery and aircraft the specs rarely mention 10 but as I have not read anything about this I can only assume they work on 10, although as mentioned above there could be issues with controllers such as Saitek.  I have a basic install of FSX on a laptop running 10 with some add on scenery which seems to work (using a Microsoft joystick), but the system isn't powerful enough to run a complicated install.  I have never been inclined to fix anything that works, so wont be making a move to 10. 

Happy Christmas

Echofox

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I will stick with Win7 until L-M releases a 64bit version of Prepar3D. At that point I will have to update to Win10 in order to utilize DX11 or DX12.

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FSX-SE + W10 running great here.

I switched only to get the new "free OS". Also to take advantage of DX12 -for other games-

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Hi,

 

Thanks for all the inputs.  Guess I'll just stay with what I have.  Like Bert said, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it.  Sounds like good advice.

 

Jim

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I will stick with Win7 until L-M releases a 64bit version of Prepar3D. At that point I will have to update to Win10 in order to utilize DX11 or DX12.

 

I won't even buy L-M's product until it's 64 bit, then I'll reluctantly go to 10 because of DirectX.  FSX still works great for me on Win 7 64 bit.

 

Greg

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I love all these threats.. I won't buy xxx because/until yyy!!

Who actually cares??

 

My 3x FS9's & 1x P3D all work well in Windows 10, for those who care. They also worked well in Windows 8.1 before I upgraded to 10!

 

You do realise that Lockheed Martin will only go for a 64bit sim if & only when their corporate clients request it & you also should realise that most, if not all add-ons (32bit) will not work or will not benefit with a 64bit program?

 

A Merry Christmas & Happy new Year to all.

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FSX-SE + W10 running great here.

I switched only to get the new "free OS". Also to take advantage of DX12 -for other games-

+ 1  No problems with windows 10

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I love all these threats.. I won't buy xxx because/until yyy!!

Who actually cares??

 

My 3x FS9's & 1x P3D all work well in Windows 10, for those who care. They also worked well in Windows 8.1 before I upgraded to 10!

 

You do realise that Lockheed Martin will only go for a 64bit sim if & only when their corporate clients request it & you also should realise that most, if not all add-ons (32bit) will not work or will not benefit with a 64bit program?

 

A Merry Christmas & Happy new Year to all.

 

Frankly, I couldn't care less what Lockheed Martin does (and in case you haven't noticed, I'm not the only one).  They have the right to run their business as they see fit, and the consumer has the right to choose what they will choose.  And yes, I understand what will happen to our 32 bit add-ons if/when L-M offers a 64 bit sim.  Regarding Windows iterations, what you clearly fail to realize is that there are plenty of folks who prefer not to pay just to be beta testers for software development companies.  What you call "threats" is really nothing more than apathy toward the industry and it's slick marketing.

 

To clarify, there are plenty of us who stay with Windows 7 simply because it works for us and we prefer not to be part of the tech merry-go-round (been there, did that for years).  If 10 (and previously 8.1) work for you and you're happy, then congrats.

 

Regards,

 

Greg

 

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Pay to become a beta tester? I'm confused here. I certainly did not 'pay' to get Windows 10, nor did millions of other folk.

You, I'm sure, realise that Windows 10 is a free update for those with suitable Windows 7 & 8.1? And you can always roll back to your previous OS if you are not happy? Within (30 days). 

 

Also, as there are so many different hardware configurations out there, I'm sure that there will be some that will be a bit problematic. 

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For those who did make the switch...

I have both FSX Gold and FSX SE..   SE works fine but Gold won't load.  I considered uninstalling gold and trying to load it again, but my disk won't load(don't remember the error message), and I can't find the path to uninstall from the program file.

 

Does anyone that was able to get Gold or the box version to work have any ideas one what to do, or should I just delete everything and stick with FSX SE?

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I certainly did not 'pay' to get Windows 10, nor did millions of other folk.

 

Now yet you haven't.  The first rule of dealing with a tech company: Any company that offers you a free product really wants to make you the product.

 

I don't need to worry about rolling back to Win 7... it's already running just peachy on my computers.  I do have access to a Win 10 computer (Surface Pro 3 that my wife's employer gave her) and I'll just say I'm not overwhelmed.  It's just another OS (not that that's bad), and I'll "limp" along on my "old" Win 7, thanks anyway.

 

Greg

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Windows 10 rocks!!  Don't delay - update today, fix all your bad drivers and live the dream.

 

Regards

jja

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Hello planenut...It seems you have virtually the same set up as me. I am lucky enough to have two  p3dv3 licences and did a trial run on my new windows 10 laptop before upgrading my main dedicated simulation PC. My conclusion is... go for it. My laptop works great and doesn`t miss a beat and I have now upgraded my windows 8 pro PC to windows 10. Everything is working fine. A few of things I would add are below.

 

1  If you decide on a disc clean up after you upgrade, then do not remove your old version of windows until you are satisfied 

2. I have read on the windows 10 forums that Microsoft intend to migrate everyone over to windows 10 in the new year.

3. Saitek now have beta drivers out for all the Saitek controllers except the throttle quadrant. Mine works fine however in windows 10

4. Use the spad drivers for your saitek panels and they will work great as well

5. If you have a DX12 capable graphics card, in the long term P3Dv3 may be upgraded to use it which will improve your graphics as well.

 

Sorry for the long post.. but having gone through the same descision .. I hope this helps..

 

Regards...Rob

 

PS Merry Christmas

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I'm going to stay with Windows 7 for the time being. A certain game I've been wanting to check out is going to be DX12 only, so I might have to upgrade. Luckily, that gives MS a year to iron out the issues in Windows 10.

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The nice thing about Win 10 is that it is an Evergreen technology - IOW always current.  Microsoft DEVs are really happy about this new trend.  Be Agile.

 

jja

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Here's my issue so far when I upgraded last night to Win 10 from Win 7

 

1. I'm running Nvidia surround video. That had to be reconfigured.

2. Opus FSX would not start permission problems...so I granted "everyone" full control of my Program (x86)\Microsoft Games folder

3. My current issue is that if I change the date/time in FSX...FSX Crashes...I think it's another permission problem...I  will research this week.

 

Other than that VOXATC works...CH Yoke and rudder pedals still there.

 

However, Win 10 removes some applications that are no longer compatible. So far the two it removed was not FSX related...more chip set related.

 

-realkewl

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Where do I start ?

Being in IT myself I firmly believe that the old adage of "if it ain't broke don't fix it" DOES NOT APPLY. Because software and operating systems move on, and unless you MAKE THE EFFORT to keep up, you end up with software that isn't supported on the OS you're using. I learnt this lesson trying to fix DOS systems for (stubborn) clients running it in Windows ... yes really.

However that doesn't mean the move to W10 is smooth.

I have an old 32 bit running ASN connected P-2-P to my 64bit running FSX:SE. There are issues with W10 and the way it handles Homegroups, which I still need to get to the bottom of, so if you're using a P-2-P and want to upgrade to W10; BEWARE ! I'm flying FSX:SE without too many issues, and by continuing to fix configuration details my knowledge of W10 increases ...... much the same as when I upgraded to Vista/Win7 from XP

 

One important piece of advice I can give though is that "things" do seem to run smoother if you use the Microsoft Account details to login onto the PC rather that a Local Account.

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