January 28, 201610 yr I had this problem, Shanan. I reinstalled and it seems okay now. I don't know if it was any coincidence but when I tried to adjust the affinity for internet explorer in process lasso that's when I was getting the lock ups. Without doing that it seems fine. So my advice would be check what programs affinity you have messed with.
January 28, 201610 yr I had this problem, Shanan. I reinstalled and it seems okay now. I don't know if it was any coincidence but when I tried to adjust the affinity for internet explorer in process lasso that's when I was getting the lock ups. Without doing that it seems fine. So my advice would be check what programs affinity you have messed with. Thanks. I guess I was trying too hard as I assigned all other programs to Core 0 and 1 so that they wouldn't conflict with P3D. But I guess that was too many threads running on 2 cores. Now I just set P3D and addons to the cores I want them to be on. Shanan ASUS Z170 PRO, I7 6700K @ 4.85ghz (HT ON), ZOTAC AMP EXTREME 1080TI GTX (OC), 16 GB DDR4 G.SKILL TRIDENTZ RGB @ 3230MHZ CL 16-17-17-33 (OC) 4X SSDS : WIN 10 (NVME 960 EVO) + P3D + OTHER GAMES, 2X WD BLACKS RAID 0 + 1 SEAGATE BARRACUDA, CORSAIR AX860i PSU, CORSAIR 760T CASE (BLACK), 27 INCH IPS PREDATOR GSYNC 165HZ 1440p + 24 INCH IPS DELL 1080p, THRUSTMASTER HOTAS FCS THROTTLE + FCS16000M CORSAIR K95 RGB + CORSAIR M65 RGB + CORSAIR MM800 POLARIS RGB, CORSAIR H115i v2, CREATIVE GIGAWORKS 7.1 + ASUS D2X XONAR
January 28, 201610 yr Author Installed Process Lasso just now, so easy and so good. :smile: David Murden. MSFS • Fenix A320 • PMDG 737 • MG Honda Jet • 414 / TDS 750Xi • FS-ATC Chatter • FlyingIron Spitfire & ME109G • MG Honda Jet • • Fenix A320 Walkthrough PDF • Flightsim.to • DCS • A10c II • F-16c • F/A-18c • F-14 • (Others in hanger) • Supercarrier • Terrains = • Nevada NTTR • Persian Gulf • Syria • Marianas • • [email protected] All Cores HT ON • 32GB DDR4 3200MHz • RTX 3080 • TM Warthog HOTAS • TM TPR • Corsair Virtuoso XT with Dolby Atmos® • Samsung G7 32" 1440p 240Hz • TrackIR 5 & ProClip •
January 29, 201610 yr David Now using process lasso, do you now remove affinity mask from cfg? Thanks
January 29, 201610 yr I've dragged myself "kicking and screaming" back to P3D 3.1 (for a month). Installed Project Lasso. Appears to work very well "out of the box". Smooth and FPS (limited externally to 60 in GPU Tweak) - appears more stable. Thank you for the tip! Adam Chillblast Core i5 14600KF Liquid Cooled RTX 4070 SUPER 32GB RAM. Internet: 1 Gig Fibre. HoneyComb Throttle & Flight System. UK PPL since 2006 current on PA-28, C-152, C172, Decathlon, C-42 based at EGHP.
January 29, 201610 yr AffinityMask: P3D 116=(01,11,01,00)=74=2,4,5,6 ASN 139=(10,00,10,11)=8B=0,1,3,7 My recommendations: P3D 116=(01,11,01,00)=74=2,4,5,6 ASN 194=(11,00,00,10)=C2=1,6,7 P3D 85=(01,01,01,01)=55=0,2,4,6 ASN 248=(11,11,10,00)=F8=3,4,5,6 These give more "width" to the JobScheduler and network i/o and provide ASN full core bandwidth when required. all those extras can go on 3073=(11,00,00,00,00,01)=C01=0,10,11 so you can also run ASN on C02 Hi Steve So are you recommending to just use ASN with these settings and use 0,1,3,7 for the rest ie ezca and trackir like on David's original post? Cheers And what if we decide to run ASN as a LAN client? What impact does that have on our flying machine's CPU cycles...as opposed to running locally? What about the frame rate hit of OpusFSI v ASN running with the same number of cloud layers? Regards to out cynical, but probably >90% correct, iconoclastIc, mystery history guest, et al. Chas My first sim flight simulator Take a ride to Stinking Creek! http://youtu.be/YP3fxFqkBXg Win10 Pro, GeForce GTX 1080TI/Rizen5 5600x OCd,32 GB RAM,3x1920 x 1080, 60Hz , 27" Dell TouchScreen,TM HOTAS Warthog,TrackIR5,Saitek Combat Rudder Pedals HP reverbG2,Quest2
January 29, 201610 yr And what if we decide to run ASN as a LAN client? What impact does that have on our flying machine's CPU cycles...as opposed to running locally? What about the frame rate hit of OpusFSI v ASN running with the same number of cloud layers? Regards to out cynical, but probably >90% correct, iconoclastIc, mystery history guest, et al. Chas I run ASN on LAN and have good performance (also dont know how much of a hit CPU local is using)all though a test in VHHX Hong Kong yesterday, the weather was really bad and i saw a 22% hit on fps even in SLI with cloudlayers at 5 but also with enhanced overcast vs fair weather. Everything maxed out except terrain shadows , even every water reflections (SLI was sitting at at 55-65%) Michael Moe Michael Moe
January 29, 201610 yr Commercial Member And what if we decide to run ASN as a LAN client? What impact does that have on our flying machine's CPU cycles...as opposed to running locally? Good question. The networking is always running hot with FSX/P3D and simconnect addons. However when they are on the same node they have loopback bandwidth, that is to say unrestricted by the network infrastructure and switching. And so a client PC with comms back to your FS server increases background work on the server (and client) requiring good server multi-threading performance i.e. Hyperthreading. Steve Waite: Engineer at codelegend.com
January 29, 201610 yr Good question. The networking is always running hot with FSX/P3D and simconnect addons. However when they are on the same node they have loopback bandwidth, that is to say unrestricted by the network infrastructure and switching. And so a client PC with comms back to your FS server increases background work on the server (and client) requiring good server multi-threading performance i.e. Hyperthreading. I have ASN on my client. You will see the difference at the moment ASN is downloading the weather and preparing the weather injetion into Fs. When you have high settings in Fs you will see jitters/stutters the moment aSN is doing the above. I tried ASN both it on my server and on my client. 5950x3d 5.4-5.7 GHz - Asus ROG 870 Crosshair Apex - GSkill Neo 2x 24 Gb 6000 mhz / cas 26 - MSI RTX 5090 Gaming Trio OC - 1x SSD M2 6000 2TB - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 1Tb - Corsair 5400 case - Corsair 360 liquid cooling set - 3x 75’ TCL tv. 13600 6 cores @ 5.1 GHz / 8 cores @ 4.0 GHz (hypterthreading on) - Asus ROG Strix Gaming D - GSkill Trident 4x Gb 3200 MHz cas 15 - Asus TUF RTX 4080 16 Gb - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 2TB - 2x Sata 600 SSD 500 Mb - Corsair D4000 Airflow case - NXT Krajen Z63 AIO liquide cooling - FOV : 200 degrees My flightsim vids : https://www.youtube.com/user/fswidesim/videos?shelf_id=0&sort=dd&view=0
January 29, 201610 yr Author David Now using process lasso, do you now remove affinity mask from cfg? Thanks I left AM in config. I went back to taking TrackIR/EZDOC and ASN off any cores used by P3D and that works best for me. Having said that it's more TrackIR IMO that needs to be split of from P3D. David Murden. MSFS • Fenix A320 • PMDG 737 • MG Honda Jet • 414 / TDS 750Xi • FS-ATC Chatter • FlyingIron Spitfire & ME109G • MG Honda Jet • • Fenix A320 Walkthrough PDF • Flightsim.to • DCS • A10c II • F-16c • F/A-18c • F-14 • (Others in hanger) • Supercarrier • Terrains = • Nevada NTTR • Persian Gulf • Syria • Marianas • • [email protected] All Cores HT ON • 32GB DDR4 3200MHz • RTX 3080 • TM Warthog HOTAS • TM TPR • Corsair Virtuoso XT with Dolby Atmos® • Samsung G7 32" 1440p 240Hz • TrackIR 5 & ProClip •
January 29, 201610 yr Commercial Member I left AM in config. It is best to allow the sim to start with its own affinity configuration in the .cfg. FSX and P3D do not reorganise in the same way if the AM is altered or task manager is used to move jobs. If the application handles it's own affinity then it is best to let it do it, other apps can be run with the .bat I provided, or utilising such apps as Process Lasso. Steve Waite: Engineer at codelegend.com
January 29, 201610 yr Author Great, that clears that up Steve. I will leave the AM in config. David Murden. MSFS • Fenix A320 • PMDG 737 • MG Honda Jet • 414 / TDS 750Xi • FS-ATC Chatter • FlyingIron Spitfire & ME109G • MG Honda Jet • • Fenix A320 Walkthrough PDF • Flightsim.to • DCS • A10c II • F-16c • F/A-18c • F-14 • (Others in hanger) • Supercarrier • Terrains = • Nevada NTTR • Persian Gulf • Syria • Marianas • • [email protected] All Cores HT ON • 32GB DDR4 3200MHz • RTX 3080 • TM Warthog HOTAS • TM TPR • Corsair Virtuoso XT with Dolby Atmos® • Samsung G7 32" 1440p 240Hz • TrackIR 5 & ProClip •
January 29, 201610 yr Commercial Member The other point I forgot to mention is that we should take care to use a *minimum of two LPs per app*, and three could be helpful since we have a lot of networking and disk i/o. Eyes gloss over mode: Even apps like weather engines respond in the same manner as FSX and P3D with respect to the first job. The first job is usually best allocated it's own core with HT enabled, in other words we would mask one of the first two LPs allocated so that the second job moves to the next core, not just the next LP on the first core. Even so, if that's all we have the first and perhaps only two jobs can be allocated to the two LPs of one core more effectively than (by the way) allocating one core with HT disabled. So if you peel back the logic of those 4 core recommendations I posted earlier, you can see that i'm really only avoiding the first sim job, rather than trying to restrict the app to using few cores. Steve Waite: Engineer at codelegend.com
January 29, 201610 yr Been checking out this post and the frame time analysis and thought I'd pop in to say a big thanks to SteveW and Nyxx for their settings and knowledge. Quite new to P3D (coming from XPX) so this has been extremely helpful in getting my system up to speed. By the way - Process Lasso - WOW. What a neat software tool, looking at it beyond just P3D :smile: Carl 4790k / 980Ti / 32Gb RAM
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