October 10, 200520 yr >Still have problems with the configurator. Some message about>the program being unable to find a backup file so now one of>the autogen variations is "stuck". Already had to reinstall>the program once to fix that. No problems with the textures>themselves but they'll really have to work on that>configuration tool in the coming weeks or I'll be asking for a>refund.Hopefully you've found the Official 1.01 patch on our website and have installed it.Let me know personally if you're still having [email protected]
October 10, 200520 yr >>What's interesting, is even with larger Thumbs for the>textures, the colors don't necessarily represent exactly what>you will actually see in FS. So even when we did have some>larger previews of the textures to work with, it still came>down to trial and error to see what you would really get in>FS.<>>Why not include one or several representative screenshots from>FS with those particular textures in use? That's how e.g.>FSE2004 does it.Holy COW... do you know how many screenshots we'd have to post in order to accurately depict every possiblility...thousands!We've got a posting area for SS on the BEV Forum where customers are now posting shots with their own preferences...hopefully that will help. Besides, as already noted...the pics don't do justice to the real thing.StephenBirdsEyeViewDeveloper
October 10, 200520 yr >>The installer tried to overwrite my isntallation of the>.net>>framework. Fortunately, Microsoft had put protections in>place>>to prevent installers from misbehaving in that way. >>So the installer doesn't detect already existing .NET>installation?>>Michael J.>Not being the programmer I cant'give an accurate answer to that question, but apparently not. But as noted...it's a non issue in that MS has alread encoded a check. That may be the reason our programer didn't feel it was needed.StephenBirdsEyeViewDeveloper
October 10, 200520 yr >It's not conspiracy, and its not crap. >>There's a whole raft of complaints about music software that>no longer functions, or functions erratically, after .net is>installed. And there are no bug fixes for these problems, and>uninstalling it is almost impossible without a reformat.>Creative drivers are renowned for having problems with .NET,>although I believe latest incarnations may have finally licked>it.>>It's fine for a developer to tell us their app uses it, we can>make a choice. It was just sheer good fortune that I installed>BEV on my non-music studio rig that I use for simming as I>have a copy of FS in a `clean` default condition on my music>computer for comparison purposes. Nothing in the literature>let me know that `unauthorised` software would be installed>with my copy of BEV. >>I would have been more than slightly hacked-off if I had lost>a single sound file because a simple app for a game decides it>knows better than me what I want on my computer. I do not want>- and cannot have - .NET on my rig. For reasons which don't>have anything to do with flight simming. But according to BEV>I don't have a choice? That's not right, is it? >>>>AllcottAgain...If there is any tec data reports that actually proves that .net is responsible for corrupting data I would love to read it... PLease email me [email protected]
October 10, 200520 yr You've missed the point Stephen. I don't want .NET on my system. The why of that is of no concern to the discussion. The fact that you've chosen to install that product with no prior warning to the user is a poor way to do business. It may be an OK thing to do from the standpoint of the programmer but it's not OK from the standpoint of the customer. I won't be purchasing other BEV products as I feel you have not grasped the significance of the situation. I can't imagine what state of our systems would be if every developer took the "BEV approach" to installing software.Doug Intel 10700K @ 5.1Ghz, Asus Hero Maximus motherboard, Noctua NH-U12A cooler, Corsair Vengeance Pro 32GB 3200 MHz RAM, RTX 2060 Super GPU, Cooler Master HAF 932 Tower, Thermaltake 1000W Toughpower PSU, Windows 10 Professional 64-Bit, 100TB of disk storage. Klaatu barada nickto.
October 10, 200520 yr I don't understand the technical ins and outs of this arguement but I thnk Doug has a point here in that there should have been some warning that if you install BEV you get .NET whether you like it or not. That way the consumer can make an informed choice on whether or not to buy the product. For perhaps most it may be a non issue but for some it is obviously of concern.Bruceb Bruce Bartlett Frodo: "I wish none of this had happened." Gandalf: "So do all who live to see such times, but that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us."
October 10, 200520 yr Allcott,I'm not aware of music software compatability issues, but I don't doubt that you are, and that wasn't my point. My comment was based on the poster's general comment that because it's from Microsoft, your computer will now have a bunch of security holes once it's installed. The statement was that .Net framework is an inherent security risk, which it is not, and which I will reiterate sounds like technology religion to me from a kid with no understanding of the technology. As for a specific incompatability, I have had it installed since version 1.0, and have never experienced any problems with any music software or other software for that matter. Maybe I'm just really lucky, but I never seem to run into the big "issues" than many seem to experience. Maybe spyware or other misconfiguration is the real reason some people always find an issue with everything.
October 10, 200520 yr First off congrats guys on the release, seems to be a hit. I plan on getting them, but like some others I'll wait till I can get the whole set as I only fly in the current season and don't want to see the defaults after install.I agree with the .NET non auto install, even though I do have it installed for 4 non FS programs. There should be a warnihg/option to those that don't want it or need it (already installed) and/or a link to just d/l it and install yourself (as EVERY other program I have that uses it). As for it being part of Vista, will take a lot for many users to leave a perfectly good working copy of XP, LOLLooking forward to the rest of the seasons, keep up the good work! Regards, MichaelKDFWhttp://www.calvirair.com/mcpics/mcdcvabanner.jpgCalVirAir International Best, Michael KDFW
October 10, 200520 yr C'mon get real people. I was the one who put the .NET installer inside the BEV package, so flame me if you want. But I'm hearing a lot of rhetoric and hot air really :)As for having issues with .NET on a music rig; I've got .NET on my music rig, which is also my FS rig, which is also my everything-else rig - and I run 100GB of samples and 25+ VSTs in Cubase, Tracktion, Sonar3 etc (my music is used in the BEV videos) - all without even a blip.Remember the old VBRUN.DLL?? Well .NET 1.1 is like a big daddy version of that. Nuff said, let's now stop this MS bashing and enjoy our simming eh?If anyone can PROVE to me that .NET 1.1 causes a problem for them, I'll give them their BEV money back.
October 10, 200520 yr I've watched the videos and they look very good. Has anyone tried this with FS Genesis 38 M terrain and or FS Genesis Landclass ??Craig
October 10, 200520 yr You really don't get it do you? Talk about clueless. It has nothing to do with problems or MS bashing. It has to do with the fact that some of us don't want .NET installed. Period. The reason is outside the scope of the discussion and, frankly, none of your business. Why you feel you have some God-given right to install anything you want for any reason you choose is beyond me. I guarantee you you have seen the last of my business if for no other reason than your attitude.Doug Intel 10700K @ 5.1Ghz, Asus Hero Maximus motherboard, Noctua NH-U12A cooler, Corsair Vengeance Pro 32GB 3200 MHz RAM, RTX 2060 Super GPU, Cooler Master HAF 932 Tower, Thermaltake 1000W Toughpower PSU, Windows 10 Professional 64-Bit, 100TB of disk storage. Klaatu barada nickto.
October 10, 200520 yr >Talk about clueless.Yes, the guy doesn't 'get it' because he assumes a reasonable person at the other end - someone who is driven by normal concerns - speed, memory, etc. Yes, he did not count on a religious zealot in his reply. *:-*Michael J. Michael J.
October 10, 200520 yr Don't use .NET...you'll be left in the dust! The reality is Windows programing is going the .NET way.You will find that most future Windows applications will require .NET, and there is nothing you can do about it as a Windows user, aside from switching to another OS (MAC, Linux, ect.).As example, VB6 is no longer supported by Microsoft. Eventually C++ 6 will not be supported. Only the .NET versions will.I'm not saying this is good or bad, but it is reality. To be honest, I'm sick of hearing all of the complaining about .NET. I've been using .NET on gaming systems for a while with very good results.So you better get ready... .NET is here to stay!Scott :-bla :-bla :-bla
October 10, 200520 yr "You really don't get it do you? Talk about clueless. Ithas nothing to do with problems or MS bashing. It has to dowith the fact that some of us don't want .NET installed.Period. The reason is outside the scope of the discussion and,frankly, none of your business. Why you feel you have someGod-given right to install anything you want for any reasonyou choose is beyond me."I'm with you Doug.Regards, MichaelKDFWhttp://www.calvirair.com/mcpics/mcdcvabanner.jpgCalVirAir International Best, Michael KDFW
October 10, 200520 yr I just wanna know what the fifth season is. :-) "Sunter" ? Regards, Max (YSSY) i7-12700K | Corsair Vengeance LPX 64GB 3600MHz DDR4 | Gigabyte RTX4090 24Gb | Gigabyte Z690 AORUS ELITE DDR4 | Corsair HX1200 PSU
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