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WHQL 368.22 is actually a great driver for P3dv 3.2.3

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Hmm, i must admit after a reinstall (clean) from 364.72 to 368.22 i see much better performance and less GPU load in heavy weather

 

I actually do not need NI this time. Only tweak is maximum power setting in Nvidia configuration panel and AM=85.

 

30-35 FPS in ESSA ORBX today with alot of clouds maxed out and butter smooth in the NGX even with shadows all on receive and RSP 1.1.

 

Highly recommended

 

 

 

Michael Moe

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Hmm, i must admit after a reinstall (clean) from 364.72 to 368.22 i see much better performance and less GPU load in heavy weather

 

I actually do not need NI this time. Only tweak is maximum power setting in Nvidia configuration panel and AM=85.

 

30-35 FPS in ESSA ORBX today with alot of clouds maxed out and butter smooth in the NGX even with shadows all on receive and RSP 1.1.

 

Highly recommended

 

 

 

Michael Moe

 

Thanks been a while since updating this might be a good time - sounds promising 

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Michael, what GPU do you have? Driver is GPU sensitive isn't it?

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not sure but is this a win10 only driver, it is listed at NVidia that way.

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I'm using it with win 7 .no problems here and seems very smooth .i'm using it with a 980 4gb

no problems at all so far

 

 steve

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Did y'all install this using Windows updates or manually? I ask because doesn't win 10 auto update everything and if so how would you do a manual update without win 10 interfering and possibly installing a different driver version?

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Has anybody tried it with FSX or FSX Steam in Win7 64bit??? Any change in performance(good or bad) for FSX with this new driver???

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not sure but is this a win10 only driver, it is listed at NVidia that way.

 

It's for Win 7 also (Nvidia).

Cheers,

Ed

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Anyone have a good way of updating the driver. I just got a new machine with a 980Ti 6gb card. Been years since Ive done it.

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Did y'all install this using Windows updates or manually? I ask because doesn't win 10 auto update everything and if so how would you do a manual update without win 10 interfering and possibly installing a different driver version?

Download the driver from Nvidia.com directly and install following the prompts.  Windows 10 isn't as invasive as everyone fears.

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Anyone have a good way of updating the driver. I just got a new machine with a 980Ti 6gb card. Been years since Ive done it.

 

The following are the steps that I follow and they work all the time, I hope they help you too:

 

1. Download the the driver from Nvidia web page for the OS installed on your box

2. Go to GURU 3D and download DDU Display Driver Uninstaller

3.  If you are using Nvidia control panel to handle your AA and Sync and other setting write them down

4. Run DDU and select Safe Boot and full uninstall to fully clean and remove old video drivers.

5. Login in safe mode and DDU will run automatically, reboot and login with normal windows.

6. Run the driver install from Nvidia and make sure you select clean and full install.

7. Reboot, login again and then go to nvidia control panel to enter the settings that work for you.

 

and that's it.

 

Borderline

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I just let GeForce Experience download and install.  I change with every update and have had no issues. 

 

blaustern

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Did y'all install this using Windows updates or manually? I ask because doesn't win 10 auto update everything and if so how would you do a manual update without win 10 interfering and possibly installing a different driver version?

 

The update for the Nvidia  driver install will pop up in your windows updates but I never install it.

I always use Guru 3d's DDU app to uninstall Nvidia drivers and this cleans the drivers and registry very well and without issues.

If you just keep installing Nvidia updates one after another the registry and system folders get bloated with files and garbage that slows the performance of your GPU.

Make your you select the right drivers for the OS installed in your box and make sure you always run any install as an admin (right click and select admin) to make sure the app or driver installs correctly.

 

I hope this helps,

 

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I just let GeForce Experience download and install.  I change with every update and have had no issues. 

 

blaustern

That's the simple way, and exactly what I do. Never any problems.

 

I don't know if a shader folder delete is really necessary, but I've been doing it lately after each new driver and my last shader rebuild greatly improved the graphics quality. Using an EVGA 970 FTW.

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All the new drivers provide for a CLEAN install (select custom) which deletes all remnants of the old driver. IMHO, one should run something like DDU if the have never run it. Then with the new drivers, just keep doing the clean install.

 

Never had a problem

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All the new drivers provide for a CLEAN install (select custom) which deletes all remnants of the old driver. IMHO, one should run something like DDU if the have never run it. Then with the new drivers, just keep doing the clean install.

 

Never had a problem

Two things, are you saying that the driver you get from Nvidia allows for a clean install when you select custom? And did you mean to say one should "not" run DDU?

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Two things, are you saying that the driver you get from Nvidia allows for a clean install when you select custom? And did you mean to say one should "not" run DDU?

I think he ment to say if you never ran a clean install that you should run DDU. Then when installing nvidia drivers from then on use nvidia clean install. No need to use DDU after that.

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All the new drivers provide for a CLEAN install (select custom) which deletes all remnants of the old driver. IMHO, one should run something like DDU if the have never run it. Then with the new drivers, just keep doing the clean install.Never had a problem

I agree with Vic. Since completing this build last year (see specs below) I have used GeForce Experience to update these drivers and always choose the clean install option. This is, by far, the simplest way to accomplish a consistent and reliable installation and, like others, have never encountered any issues. I have never used DDU (although a copy is archived just in case) and my experience to date strongly suggests that this will likely continue to be my position. NVIDIA appear to have perfected their uninstaller routines prior to performing a fresh clean driver installation.

 

Not sure how thorough CCleaner is, but I run it periodically and never see any GPU driver related stuff.

 

Mike

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The following are the steps that I follow and they work all the time, I hope they help you too:

 

1. Download the the driver from Nvidia web page for the OS installed on your box

2. Go to GURU 3D and download DDU Display Driver Uninstaller

3.  If you are using Nvidia control panel to handle your AA and Sync and other setting write them down

4. Run DDU and select Safe Boot and full uninstall to fully clean and remove old video drivers.

5. Login in safe mode and DDU will run automatically, reboot and login with normal windows.

6. Run the driver install from Nvidia and make sure you select clean and full install.

7. Reboot, login again and then go to nvidia control panel to enter the settings that work for you.

 

and that's it.

 

Borderline

 

And what happens with your method, if the new driver causes problems or isn't as good as the one you replaced, which has happened to simmers more than a few times? You can't roll back to your previous driver using your method. 

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I'm not a fan of these "good driver - bad driver" discussions, as they're mostly related to (demanding AA + other) settings in Nvidia control center, which will be resetted when a new driver is being installed.

So forget about this, it's nearly always wasted time - but it can for sure help to improve peformance ;)

 

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So forget about this, it's nearly always wasted time - but it can for sure help to improve peformance ;)

 

Do I detect a contradiction? As for reinstating settings, it's but a few minutes work if you keep a record.

 

Mike

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DDU is very god , but Its ok to update drivers with nvidia installer or what ever.

DDU is most useful when you get problem with the driver or going to flash the gpu with a new bios.

Second if you have for ex 368.22 and a nvidia 970 and have a new 980ti no need to uminstall the driver if Its the driver you plan to use with the new card.

Wy do things more complicated then needed

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And what happens with your method, if the new driver causes problems or isn't as good as the one you replaced, which has happened to simmers more than a few times? You can't roll back to your previous driver using your method. 

 

That's not true. I used it and I can always roll back in case is needed.

Cheers,

Ed

All the new drivers provide for a CLEAN install (select custom) which deletes all remnants of the old driver. IMHO, one should run something like DDU if the have never run it. Then with the new drivers, just keep doing the clean install.

 

Never had a problem

 

My experience shows that the custom install you mention is not as reliable as cleaning with an utility like DDU. DDU for example allows you to install the new driver like it was installed after a Windows reinstall, i.e., for the first time.

Cheers, Ed

The following are the steps that I follow and they work all the time, I hope they help you too:

 

1. Download the the driver from Nvidia web page for the OS installed on your box

2. Go to GURU 3D and download DDU Display Driver Uninstaller

3.  If you are using Nvidia control panel to handle your AA and Sync and other setting write them down

4. Run DDU and select Safe Boot and full uninstall to fully clean and remove old video drivers.

5. Login in safe mode and DDU will run automatically, reboot and login with normal windows.

6. Run the driver install from Nvidia and make sure you select clean and full install.

7. Reboot, login again and then go to nvidia control panel to enter the settings that work for you.

 

and that's it.

 

Borderline

 

This is exactly the method I use and I'm always getting excellent results.

Cheers, Ed

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Hi Ed,

 

http://www.nvidia.co.uk/object/driver_rollback.html

 

Fortunately, to date I haven't felt the need to roll back to a previous driver set. Perhaps I have been lucky - I tend not to update until the consensus view seems favourable. We should all be grateful for early adopters.

 

And, for the sake of some balance in this conversation, my earlier post stated that I have always installed using the GeForce Experience front-end and I too am always getting excellent results :wink:

 

I do believe Vic's earlier declared wisdom is the one we should all consider following. If you've been in the habit of updating over earlier drivers, and have survived unscathed thus far, then simply continue or perhaps now is the time to consider using DDU at least once to restore that virgin environment before installing CLEAN thereafter using the NVIDIA driver installer. Employing DDU each and every time is just overkill and unnecessary IMHO, but please feel free to ignore me.

 

Regards,

Mike 

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