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Well, since August anyway.

 

Added the 777-200 which nobody uses but no 777-300ER.   Not sure why the 200 was added, waste of time IMHO

 

It has been updated at least.

 

 

Version 2.74 (03 AUG 2016)
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- ADDED BOEING 777-200 / 777F PERFORMANCE FILE
- ADDED PMDG BOEING 777 CONFIGURATIONS
- IMPROVED FSUIPC SEND FUNCTIONS
- IPROVED LOADING SPEED
- FIXED SEVERAL REPORTED ISSUES

 

 

Julian Evans

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I fly the 200 and 777f all the time

No you don't, you fly the -200LR which is much different from the -200 both in weights and performance.

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I just noticed this too... didn't even realize this... is there an update for this or does it require a full install?

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The 777-200 takes 99% of my flight time which is over 20 hours per week.  I am very happy to finally use TopCat for the T7 as I purchased it previously in my 737 heavy days.

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Well, since August anyway.

 

Added the 777-200 which nobody uses but no 777-300ER.   Not sure why the 200 was added, waste of time IMHO

 

So you constitute everyone????? I fly the 777-200! Certainly not a waste of time!

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So you constitute everyone????? I fly the 777-200! Certainly not a waste of time!

As Dan says, the PMDG 777 is the -200LR. A very, very different beast to the straight -200, which appears to be what the Topcat profile is for.

 

Edit: just to add, for context: the straight -200s have an MTOW over 100t less than the LR and about 4,500nm less range.

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So you constitute everyone????? I fly the 777-200! Certainly not a waste of time!

Glad you added heaps of question marks!!!!! because you sure mis understood the variance between the two 200 series.

 

Also, this is posted in the PMDG forum, so the 200 series is not modeled.Only the LR See Dan's post above.

And there is already an 200LR available in Topcat, Boeing 777-200LRX PMDG Mixed Class, did you not know that ?

I just noticed this too... didn't even realize this... is there an update for this or does it require a full install?

Full install. Just install over current. If using Navagraph, say no to install 2011 database.

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Added the 777-200

I don't see any 777-200. I only have the 777-200LR and 777F (which were in 2.74Beta) on the dropdown menu when I click on Add on the Aircraft page. No aircraft have been added. Cycle 1607 installed by TOPCAT is not current. The current cycle is 1609.

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I don't see any 777-200. I only have the 777-200LR and 777F (which were in 2.74Beta) on the dropdown menu when I click on Add on the Aircraft page. No aircraft have been added. Cycle 1607 installed by TOPCAT is not current. The current cycle is 1609.

 

The B77L data is now complete compared to the beta. ( works in negative OAT and landing data can be computed ).

 

Airac can be updated via Navigraph if you so choose.

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I don't see any 777-200. I only have the 777-200LR and 777F (which were in 2.74Beta) on the dropdown menu when I click on Add on the Aircraft page. No aircraft have been added. Cycle 1607 installed by TOPCAT is not current. The current cycle is 1609.

Maybe the readme meant LR, but Stephen has answered it. Typo in the readme ie the 777-200 ? But as the LR has existed for some time, it seems it is only a tweak, not a new configuration

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There is a user on here that compiled an excel spreadsheet for takeoff performance calculations with the LR, F, and W versions. It's great. I have it saved on my home computer. Prior, I had a few assumed temp takeoffs at places like LTBA where I realized I desperately needed something (I hit V1 at the main touchdown keys on the far end of the runway!)

 

I replied to another Topcat thread not too long ago - it's beyond me that they do not have a 300ER profile. 

 

Are there profiles to add to Topcat for the PMDG 77W? Like profiles that can be added to PFPX (since they're both Flightsimsoft)

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Maybe the readme meant LR, but Stephen has answered it. Typo in the readme ie the 777-200 ? But as the LR has existed for some time, it seems it is only a tweak, not a new configuration

The URL for NOAA changed and it was embed into the exe. That was changed to the new URL and Beta was dropped from 2.74. I believe those were the only significant changes.

 

 

Are there profiles to add to Topcat for the PMDG 77W? Like profiles that can be added to PFPX (since they're both Flightsimsoft)

I don't know of any for TOPCAT. PFPX yes, TOPCAT no.

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I thought that TOPCAT was a forgotten product, so nice to see some activity there. 

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No you don't, you fly the -200LR which is much different from the -200 both in weights and performance.

Dan assumption is a bad thing. I fly the 200 and 777F. I didn't say in the sim

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Dan assumption is a bad thing. I fly the 200 and 777F. I didn't say in the sim

 

Darren - context is key.

 

This is a sim site. Everyone's first assumption - reasonably - is going to be related to the sim. Moreover, the product that is the topic of this thread is a sim tool. It has no relevance to real world flying, if that's what you were alluding to.

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Kyle,

 

Appreciate it's a sim site.

 

My initial reply was a cheeky dig at Julian for having a pop at the awesome 200 although he was obviously talking in the context of Topcat.

 

Dan then replied stating the obvious.

 

Apologies if anyone got the wrong idea.

 

Back on topic though it's a shame the 300 wasn't included. 

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Back on topic though it's a shame the 300 wasn't included.

 

Agree..., would like to see the B77W and the B736.  I am using TOPER for these variants and although it misses the obstacle and engine out criteria it does provide a derate.

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I fly the PMDG B77F almost exclusively.  Using AS16, PFPX calculates the trip data, Topcat loads it and provides the derate and flaps for the Runway.  Topcat then uploads the PFPX data to the sim.  The fuel consumption and trip time are well within 5 percent and I haven't gone off the end of any runways.  What more could I want?  :smile:

 

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My initial reply was a cheeky dig at Julian for having a pop at the awesome 200 although he was obviously talking in the context of Topcat.

Yep, shoot the messenger lol


 

 


I believe those were the only significant changes.

Yes, but look at the date of the readme ? -200 added........no mention of the NOAA change. Either the readme is wrong or badly written. I go by that, as I am not privy to inside workings at Flightsimsoft.

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I've never really been impressed with the 777 data for TOPCAT. I quit using the takeoff and landing calculations and started using TOPER for takeoffs and ballparking it on landings. The 737 and MD11 data seems pretty good to me but the 777 data is kind of garbage, IMO.

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Yes, but look at the date of the readme ? -200 added........no mention of the NOAA change. Either the readme is wrong or badly written. I go by that, as I am not privy to inside workings at Flightsimsoft.

August 3, 2016 doesn't seem too bad. See post #8 of this thread - http://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?/topic/114804-noaa-metar-service-terminated/.

 

I've never really been impressed with the 777 data for TOPCAT.

I agree. On more than several occasions TOPCAT had provided assumed temperatures and derates that will not produce V Speeds in the T7 FMC.

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The reason TOPCAT may not provide a solution when either the FMS or TOPER will is because TOPCAT includes obstruction clearance criteria.  Sometimes you just cannot takeoff with a given weight and OAT on a given runway due to obstruction clearance in the event of engine failure.

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