Dave, will the upcoming A330 have shared cockpit as well?

 

Yes sir!

Thanks for that.

 

I think I'll just go for it. I usually allow myself 1 addon per month lol, so I don't ened up spending a fortune. I'm planning on Aerosofts CRJ and the A330 also. I just need to figure out the best order to buy them. I could go for the iFly now, but knowing my luck they'll put it on sale when PMDG releases their 747.

 

I don't think you have to worry about a sale. Flight1 doesn't do a whole lot of sales. They just do $10 coupon on their addons and as a matter of fact that is how I bought the iFly 747 ($10 off). Their 737NG still sells for the same price even after the PMDG 737NGX came out.

I don't think you have to worry about a sale. Flight1 doesn't do a whole lot of sales. They just do $10 coupon on their addons and as a matter of fact that is how I bought the iFly 747 ($10 off). Their 737NG still sells for the same price even after the PMDG 737NGX came out.

And besides, it could be months yet before PMDG finishes BETA testing and releases their plane. Could be next summer, who knows? Do you want to wait that long to save a couple of bucks?

The diversity of aircraft with varying levels of complexity is one big reason that drives this hobby and a very big part in why FSX has lasted this long relative to other games with only have a few years shelf life for the most part. I love the complex high detailed aircraft as well, but must say the the P3D era seems to be getting a little out of hand in terms of price. Sure the excuse is for the commercial and corporate market but still the way its going, if P3D gets to 64bit, we might be seeing prices pushing above 150$. Whatever the reasons or excuse, its hard to maintain a hobby for a good part of users when prices get that high.  In general, most aircraft addons are averaging about 50 so a much more detailed and complex aircraft is fair to set itself apart being twice as much but now we are seeing them hitting nearly 3x higher. Crazy. You really have to draw a line at some point as it limits buying power for other addons for many of us.

 

So it will all be very interesting when DTG FS shows up and how addons are priced for this new sim.

Definitely, for sure I'll be buying the P3D version of the 747-v3

No more FSX addons, it's too fragile a program.

And besides, it could be months yet before PMDG finishes BETA testing and releases their plane. Could be next summer, who knows? Do you want to wait that long to save a couple of bucks?

 

Thats it exactly, if was going to get the iFly 744 I would go get it now and not worry about saving 10 bux.

No more FSX addons, it's too fragile a program.

 

Agreed.  I had moved to FSX:SE which was better but now to P3D which is much better in many ways.

Just a guess but the PMDG 777 for P3D is $135US.

 

The difference in price between an FSX version versus P3D has never been adequately explained.  Other developed such as VRS price this way as well however.  Having said that, developers are of course free to set their own prices.

Well on release it was 90. Still pricey but could consider. 150 is a no go.

$150US for the P3D PMDG 744v2 is a GO for me.  Got the cash stashed away where the prone-to-violence-cop-wife wont find it...

 

So I guess my question is this: Should I buy the iFly 747 instead of the PMDG version? The fact that I like simplicity, would the cheaper 747 cater for my needs to the same level that the Aerosoft bus can? in other words if Flight Sim Labs is to PMDG, is it fair to say Aerosoft is to iFly?

 

Also, is the iFly 747 reliable? Is it at the same level as the Aerosoft bus? I'm happy enough to cut immersion factor in favour of price to the same level as Aerosoft, but not if it's full of bugs and horrible to fly. 

 

 

 

From the sounds of what you are saying, you are not looking for a high level of complexity in a simulation.

iFly's 747 would be a much better choice for you.  It is a very good simulation that has a good degree of complexity, but a much lower price tag than what the PMDG version will have.

Considering the fact that you think the NGX and 777 from PMDG was a "waste of money" for you, I certainly would not recommend that you buy the PMDG 747v2 when it is released.  You will not use the features that you would be paying extra for.

 

As for me, I will most certainly buy the PMDG version.  I feel that everything that PMDG has released is worth every penny +.

Thanks for that.

 

I think I'll just go for it. I usually allow myself 1 addon per month lol, so I don't ened up spending a fortune. I'm planning on Aerosofts CRJ and the A330 also. I just need to figure out the best order to buy them. I could go for the iFly now, but knowing my luck they'll put it on sale when PMDG releases their 747.

 

you could buy one a year with those three, the 747 this year when its released, the 330 next January when its released, and the crj in 2023 when its released..... 

From the sounds of what you are saying, you are not looking for a high level of complexity in a simulation.

iFly's 747 would be a much better choice for you.  It is a very good simulation that has a good degree of complexity, but a much lower price tag than what the PMDG version will have.

Considering the fact that you think the NGX and 777 from PMDG was a "waste of money" for you, I certainly would not recommend that you buy the PMDG 747v2 when it is released.  You will not use the features that you would be paying extra for.

 

As for me, I will most certainly buy the PMDG version.  I feel that everything that PMDG has released is worth every penny +.

Saying it was a "waste of money" was very inaccurate on my part. I love both aircraft, and I've flown countless hours with both of them. I was just making the point that I could've got as much use out of the iFly 737, and used it to the same level of detail that I use on the NGX.

Saying it was a "waste of money" was very inaccurate on my part. I love both aircraft, and I've flown countless hours with both of them. I was just making the point that I could've got as much use out of the iFly 737, and used it to the same level of detail that I use on the NGX.

 

I didn't mean that in a negative way at all.

If someone doesn't use the features of a simulation, and has no intention of ever using them, then it would be a waste of money to buy that simulation, when you could get the same simulation without all those features for much less cost.

What you said is essentially true.  Why buy, for instance, the Flightsim Lab's A320, which is the closest thing available to the real A320, for the high cost, when you could get all of the enjoyment and satisfaction that you are looking for with the Aerosoft version, which is also quite good, but much less costly?

I enjoy having as much complexity and realism, even if I'm not going to use it right away, because it opens up a future of learning related to the aircraft simulation.

I read a lot of books on different aircraft and flying in general.  I enjoy the learning part of flight simulation, so I would like to have the PMDG 747 because I believe it will be very deep in its systems and accuracy.  I won't use it all, but I might as time goes on.

The iFly version of the 747 is also deep enough and realistic and is very enjoyable and should be perfect for what you need. 

The PMDG version will always be available  for you, if you ever have a change of heart and decide to get into this deeper.

Hopefully not Dave, eh?     

 

I'm a big fan of Aerosoft (you may or may not have seen me on the forums over there) and regardless of anything else, not only will I be getting the A330 but also the CRJ when they come out  :smile:

 

However, I always had a soft spot for the 747 and I'd like to have one in my hangar. I'm just a bit concerned about spending a lot of money on a product and not using it to it's full potential.

 

Just my two cents: you may also consider your future.

Maybe there's a possibility that your expectations for an addon will change as you "expand the horizons" of your simulation, so-to-speak.

Well, it's a really personal choice, I guess. I'm a guy that doesn't uses PMDG stuff to their full potential, I'm afraid -- but I like to know that the potential will be there when I need it.

 

That being said, I've seen some videos of iFly airplanes and got very impressed...

Well I just went and got it. So far, I have to say I'm well impressed. Less than half the (likely) price of the PMDG version, and it has more than enough impressiveness as far as systems and procedures go. There's a lot of learning involved. Some nice liveries available for it too.

 

And the performance is pretty good. I'm getting similar framerates to the NGX so I'm a happy camper.

 

Thanks again to everyone for the advice. As we say in Ireland, yous are a sound bunch o' lads

That's great to hear!  It flies even better with a pint in your hand!