February 1, 20179 yr Author FSX DX10 does have HDR. SP2 did add VC shadows, although only for default aircraft, not add-ons. Cloud, autogen, and VC shadows for add-on aircraft can be added with DX10 fixer. FSX also has terrain shadows. FSX doesn't have HDR like P3D does. And also no cloud shadows. VC shadows yes, but only with the dx10 fixer
February 1, 20179 yr FSX doesn't have HDR like P3D does. And also no cloud shadows. VC shadows yes, but only with the dx10 fixer Steve's dx10 fixer has had a plug in for a while now that gives you cloud shadows. Purchased it myself. Russell Gough SE London
February 1, 20179 yr Steve's dx10 fixer has had a plug in for a while now that gives you cloud shadows. Purchased it myself. Steve's DX10 cloud shadow add-on is highly recommended and works well with no noticeable performance hit. i7-14700k | Asus ROG STRIX Z790-F Gaming WIFI | 32GB DDR5 RAM | MSI RTX 4080 Super | WD Black SN850X 1TB & 2TB | Corsair HX1000i ATX3.0 | MSI MAG401QR 40" monitor | Win 11 Pro 64-bit | Meta Quest 3
February 1, 20179 yr FSX doesn't have HDR like P3D does. And also no cloud shadows. VC shadows yes, but only with the dx10 fixer It's not tweakable in game like P3D, but it's still there in the shader files which you can edit how strong the HDR lighting should be. P3D makes it easy with sliders, but they accomplish the same thing. Cloud shadows and VC shadows exist for addons with the DX10 fixer. If you don't have any addons, VC shadows do exist for default aircraft, but not add-ons. The FSX SP2 notes state it is possible. They didn't mention how to enable them in the notes. No cloud shadows unless with DX10 fixer. Jeff Thomson
February 1, 20179 yr XP11. | My Liveries | FAA ZMP | PPL ASEL | | Windows 11 | MSI Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K 4.7GHz | MSI RTX 4080 | 64GB 6000 MHz DDR5 | 500GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD | 2x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 | EVGA 850W Gold | Corsair 5000X | HP G2 (VR) / LG 27" 1440p |
February 2, 20179 yr Ryan, not part of this FSX/FSX SE/P3D Debate at all. :Shame On You: Robin "Onward & Upward" ... To the Stars, & Beyond...
February 2, 20179 yr Ryan, not part of this FSX/FSX SE/P3D Debate at all. :Shame On You: Sure it is. I offered another solid solution. | My Liveries | FAA ZMP | PPL ASEL | | Windows 11 | MSI Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K 4.7GHz | MSI RTX 4080 | 64GB 6000 MHz DDR5 | 500GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD | 2x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 | EVGA 850W Gold | Corsair 5000X | HP G2 (VR) / LG 27" 1440p |
February 2, 20179 yr XP11. If there was a good combined AI/ATC solution for it, yes. At the moment, even none of the default or third party payware options seem to be as good as what MSFS has to offer in that department. 7950X3D + 7900 XT + 64 GB + Linux | 4800H + RTX2060 + 32 GB + Linux My add-ons from my FS9/FSX days
February 2, 20179 yr The OP asked for a pro/con discussion of the various MSFS-based options...please, let's stick to that topic and not turn it into another FS vs XP flame war. Regards Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
February 2, 20179 yr How do you guys get P3D smooth? I don't get it. With 1/2 refresh rate or something? I really liked the way it looked. I am missing it already in FSX... but smooth frames now. The stuttering I could live with, but since I installed orbx global my textures wouldn't load. They stayed blurred. Even when I paused the sim You cant run P3d unlimited with ORBX scenery, it will blur. You have to have your settings adjusted to keep it just above 30fps and set 30fps frame rate in sim. Flight Simulator's - Prepar3d V5/MSFS | Operating System - WIN 11 | Main Board - GIGABYTE X870E Aorus Elite WIFI7 | CPU - AMD 9800X3D | RAM - CORSAIR 64GB 6600Mhz | Video Card - EVGA RTX3090 FTW3 Ultra | Monitor - DELL 38" Ultrawide | Case - CORSAIR 750D Full Tower | CPU Cooling - CORSAIR H170i Elite LCD 420mm Push/Pull | Power Supply - EVGA 1000 G+ | Sound System - Definitive Technology ProMonitor 600 w/subwoofer
February 2, 20179 yr Here's what I think: Ford is better that Chevy Sofia is better looking that Gina Lamborghini is better than Ferrari Coke is better than Pepsi No controversy there.......... No controversy there..........? I have to, politely, disagree with #4. :Shame On You: JimE James D. Edwards
February 2, 20179 yr Commercial Member I have to, politely, disagree with #4. Ut-oh. Now you've done it. Run for cover! That's the one thing sure to unite us all on one of two sides and spark off a war such as flight sim as never seen! Kind of like... "hey, hold my beer and watch what happens when I pull this here pin...." LOL!!! Dave Hodges System Specs: I9-13900KF, NVIDIA 4070TI, Quest 3, Multiple Displays, Lots of TERRIFIC friends, 3 cats, and a wonderfully stubborn wife.
February 2, 20179 yr If we all had exactly the same PC setup, and exactly the same flight sim budget, then this kind of debate would have merit. But since we all have different rigs and budgets, just use whatever works best for your situation. Cheers TJ "The knack of flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." - Douglas Adams Tejon 'TJ' Stanley
February 3, 20179 yr TJ, that's the best & most important thing I've seen on this forum, so far!! Robin "Onward & Upward" ... To the Stars, & Beyond...
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