Actually, this has absolutely NOTHING to do with my decision that we will not be porting the 747 to X-Plane any time soon.  Our products are designed to be largely platform independent- which takes a HUGE amount of work up front, but was more or less accomplished with this product.

 

The DC-6 development was designed to build the connection layer that will exist between any PMDG airplane and X-Plane.  We simply need the platform to catch up with what we are able to do under other platforms before we can move something as big and complex as the 747 into X-Plane.

 

Currently the platform cannot take this airplane in the level of detail we have created it, without us removing some pieces that our customers feel are pretty critical- and that we feel are critical to the product's success.

 

That is it in a nutshell.

How about the PMDG 737NGX. Will that head to XP?

Ciaran,

 

Very disappointed that the 747 V3 will not make it to X-Plane in the foreseeable future. X-Plane is such a wonderful platform, but I guess it has a wider range of a mature audience that just generally fly GA. If PMDG could drop FSX (the now FS9 of the flight sim world), and take up X-Plane it would please many. There is such a great potential with the X-Plane market, I guess I'm going to have to go and spend money on P3D's academic sim to fly my PMDG aircraft...

 

I'm NOT picking on YOU with the following comment- but it is something that I feel needs to be said:

 

I use FSX, Prepar3D and X-Plane.  I find high points and low points for all of them.  I find it to be patently offensive when someone wanders in and suggests in any fashion that one community of simmers is more/less mature or more/less serious or more/less experience than any other.

 

When I read commentary like that, it diminishes the fact that we are ALL simmers, we ALL love airplanes, we ALL love flying and we also happen to be a bunch of tech heads.

 

We are far more alike than we are different- and what we like in our platform varies depending upon the user.

 

Anyone tries to tell me any of this garbage about maturity/seriousness/better-than/worse-than, I immediately discount them as a fanboi more interested in marketing affiliation than really enjoying the simulation experience.

 

(Again, I'm not picking on the Ciaran- but his post kind of lead me in that direction, so I thought I would point it out.)

How about the PMDG 737NGX. Will that head to XP?

 

If you get the same answer from RSR for that - will you next ask for the 777?

If you get the same answer from RSR for that - will you next ask for the 777?

You don't have to be a jerk! In the past Robert said in the future they would have the 737NGX for XP. I was wondering if his position had changed?

You don't have to be a jerk! In the past Robert said in the future they would have the 737NGX for XP. I was wondering if his position had changed?

 

I'm REALLY sorry if I stepped on your toes!!! This wasn't about being 'a jerk'. I was just wondering why this was asked in seriousness, since I thought the question already was clearly answered by RSR in his post... 

 

Maybe I was wrong. But please! Try not to take offense out of everything. These threads regarding X-Plane always ends up in people getting offensive about nothing.

 

 

(Again, I'm not picking on the Ciaran- but his post kind of lead me in that direction, so I thought I would point it out.)

I understand. I guess I used the wrong phrase to categorise how I feel about the audience in X-Plane. The greater amount of complex GA aircraft than big airliners in X-Plane makes me feel frustrated and how I meant by mature is those that are real life pilots and use X-Plane as their training material to get familiar with certain scenarios, I didn't mean it how several took it and I apologies if I offended anyone. 

I'm REALLY sorry if I stepped on your toes!!! This wasn't about being 'a jerk'. I was just wondering why this was asked in seriousness, since I thought the question already was clearly answered by RSR in his post... 

 

Maybe I was wrong. But please! Try not to take offense out of everything. These threads regarding X-Plane always ends up in people getting offensive about nothing.

RSR said the 747 would not make it to XP as they would have to tone the aircraft down! Where did he say the 737NGX was in the same boat?

I think PMDG will always be associated with high quality addons for FSX and ESP. That is where they gained their expertise and where their market is. Even though the DC-6 for X-Plane is very nice, surely it was nothing like the NGX/777/747 market/sales-wise. I´ve bought it and flown it for a while, but is not something that I keep coming back like the 777.

 

On the other hand, I think that stating that is just not possible to make an addon like the 747 to X-Plane because of deficiencies of that platform is somewhat puzzling, considering that there are already some very high quality jets for XP that, IMHO, rivals the offerings available for P3D. Yes, systems-wise they may be not always as complete, but in terms of atmosphere and immersion, they are on a league of their own.

 

Surely, the API and the documentation available for developers on XP must be improved, but I think it is possible do make a high quality aircraft for X-Plane if there is the will to do so. I mean, people said that it was impossible to have wx radar o a good Airbus in FSX/P3D. Look at what we have now...

 

PMDG ist an established FSX/P3D player and seems to want remain committed only to that platform, which is understandable.

 

Since I use both simulators, it is really not a big issue for me. For XP-only users, I say: don´t worry. The market is growing and there are already excellent developers like IXEG, ATS, CSS, FF and FJS that will surely be joined by new players that will only make the simulator better with time.

 

The sun is shining for everyone and this is surely the golden-age of flightsim (especially with VR).  :smile:

 

Thiago Braun

Though I would love to see any of the PMDG jetliners working in XP, it makes perfect sense that XP is not yet able to support a fully functional port of something line the 747.

 

Personally, I I had my "druthers", I would love to see a re-visit to the NGX as PMDG's next project in FSX/P3D, with some of the new features of the 777/747, such as winds aloft datalink imports, ground handling features etc.

Hello!

 

First of all thank you for the great products PMDG ships on a constant high quality!

 

 

 

Actually, this has absolutely NOTHING to do with my decision that we will not be porting the 747 to X-Plane any time soon.

 

I would like to know, as many others, what the roadmap for X-Plane looks like? Can you give us an update and once for all wipe out the half-truth's and unknowns we have now?

 

 

 

We simply need the platform to catch up with what we are able to do under other platforms before we can move something as big and complex as the 747 into X-Plane.

Currently the platform cannot take this airplane in the level of detail we have created it, without us removing some pieces that our customers feel are pretty critical- and that we feel are critical to the product's success.

 

There are many complex addons out there for X-Plane which are even licensed by the manufacturers (for example Boeing) so I don't quite understand what complexity we/you are talking about. Could you give us a specific example what isn't working on the platform X-Plane? Are we talking about heavy memory usage or rebuilding components down to a circuit breaker, flight dynamics, sound, visuals, ....?

 

Its of course up to your decision whether or not PMDG products will land on the X-Plane platform but it is a great platform with much potential in Version 11 ( I know everyone said this about every version ... ) however I just wish you could shed some light on our questions. If you are still in R&D phase "what works and what not" and future is unknown at this moment, then please share it with us, its at least a statement we can work with.

 

thank you and best regards,

Emmanuel

I won't spend another dime on 32bit anything. I'm not going to tweak anything, and I'm not going to enable and disable stuff so I can get a stable simulator, especially after spending $130.

I won't spend another dime on 32bit anything. I'm not going to tweak anything, and I'm not going to enable and disable stuff so I can get a stable simulator, especially after spending $130.

 

I am of much the same mind. I recently bought the FSLabs A320 for FSX then P3D. An undoubtably brilliant plane but I am just left cold by the host simulators. Yesterday I flew a 3 hour hour flight in the JAR A320. Its nowhere near the quality of the FSLabs yet, I enjoyed the flight so much more. 

I have much the same feelings about the PMDG 737, great plane but I cannot face loading P3D to fly it. I would love to see PMDG more active in X-Plane and am hopeful that one day we will see them there. 

IXEG's 737 is amazing, and if PMDG's level of detail is that tiny bit higher, then save that detail for the "professional market", and give us something ever so slightly less at a competitive price.

I use FSX, Prepar3D and X-Plane.  I find high points and low points for all of them.  I find it to be patently offensive when someone wanders in and suggests in any fashion that one community of simmers is more/less mature or more/less serious or more/less experience than any other.

 

When I read commentary like that, it diminishes the fact that we are ALL simmers, we ALL love airplanes, we ALL love flying and we also happen to be a bunch of tech heads.

 

We are far more alike than we are different- and what we like in our platform varies depending upon the user.

 

Anyone tries to tell me any of this garbage about maturity/seriousness/better-than/worse-than, I immediately discount them as a fanboi more interested in marketing affiliation than really enjoying the simulation experience.

 

Right on man, couldn't agree more, and in fact said so myself recently. If anyone loves aeroplanes - and simulated ones too - they'll find merit in anything from a simple Piper single in Dovetail's Flight School, to a full-on simulation of a 747 in P3D (and all points in between).

 

I can remember a time as a young lad, dreaming of the possibility of having a flight simulator in my home, hardly daring to imagine that it might one day be possible. Not all among us are fortunate to be in a position to realise our dreams of flight in the real world, for whatever reason, but whether we've realised our dreams of flight on a PC, or stood skulking by the hangars hoping it would stop raining so we could take our flying lesson, we all share a common bond as flyers.

While I enjoyed PMDG products when I was simming with FSX, I was forced to make a tough decision moving over to XP - Do you really want to lose all those add-on planes (and sceneries) you paid for?

 

I guess I'm of the thought that once your decision is made, hoping and wishing for developers to follow you to XP is kinda a waste of time.  Plus, while I haven't simmed with a PMDG in almost a year, I have to say there are a couple of XP add-ons that do a commendable job when it comes to realism.  I say that as a simmer, not a real pilot.  If I seek true realism I need to get my certification so I can fly a real plane.  Planes in XP may not be on PMDG level but, pretty close to the point that I don't become frustrated that I don't have a PMDG in my XP hangar. 

 

With all the money I have saved on freeware (don't forget to donate), I have bought pretty much every XP liner add-on.  Some better than others and some are straight "duds".  I've found a few that suit my needs.

 

Finally, if I'm really feeling homesick and I want to sit in the PMDG 737 once again, I will fire up FSX.  Hell, I almost jumpstarted P3D when the TFDi 717 rolled out!   :Shame On You: