April 27, 20179 yr 13 minutes ago, GSalden said: I can imagine that v4 is not a big update like from v1 to v2 and v2 to v3. Lots of extra work. Just curious : if P3Dv4 is going to cost $ 250-300 who of you would buy it...? Me on day one. Kind regards, Michael Intel i7-13700K / AsRock Z790 / Crucial 32 GB DDR 5 / ASUS RTX 4080OC 16GB / BeQuiet ATX 1000W / WD m.2 NVMe 2TB (System) / WD m.2 NVMe 4 TB (MSFS) / WD HDD 10 TB / XTOP+Saitek hardware panel / LG 34UM95 3440 x 1440 / HP Reverb 1 (2160x2160 per eye) / Win 11
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April 27, 20179 yr 8 hours ago, wizzards said: Maybe they are being sensible and waiting to see what the compertition eg LM bring to the table,the way i see it DTG is not competition for LM but LM is serious compertition for DTG,althought they are aimed at different markets we the customer will be able to use both,I belive it would be difficult for DTG to release something and then have their product overshadowed by LM when it is finally released,LM must surley have a head start on DTG in the development of a 64 bit flightsim,lets face it how many people will want to or can afford to run two 64 bit flightsims Peter I certainly are planning running two 64 bit flightsim platforms in P3D v4 64bit and my already owned X-Plane 11. AMD 9800X3D, NZXT X73 RGB AIO COOLER, Gigabyte X870 Aorus Elite WIFI7, 64GB 6000MHZ RAM, 4TB Samsung Pro NVME, 4 TB Crucial P3+ NVME, 4TB Crucial SSD, Gigabyte Gaming OC Geforce RTX5090, Antec C8 ARGB Case, X55 JOYSTICK/THROTTLES, LG 4K C4 42" TV/Monitor 120 Hz, 2 Dell 1080 monitors. Honeycomb Alpha Yoke, Bravo Throttle. Thrustmaster TPR Pedals. Moza AB6 FFB Joystick, Pimax Crystal Light VR, Tobii Eye tracker, Steelseries Arctis 7+ Wireless Headphones.
April 27, 20179 yr 8 hours ago, GSalden said: I can imagine that v4 is not a big update like from v1 to v2 and v2 to v3. Lots of extra work. Just curious : if P3Dv4 is going to cost $ 250-300 who of you would buy it...? I am interested to know by people keep pressing that a 64 bit version would cost more than a 32bit version....makes no commercial sense and the change is probably less noticeable for the average simmer than the change from 1 to 2 to 3. Mark CYYZ
April 27, 20179 yr 58 minutes ago, MarkW said: I am interested to know by people keep pressing that a 64 bit version would cost more than a 32bit version....makes no commercial sense and the change is probably less noticeable for the average simmer than the change from 1 to 2 to 3. With v1 , 2 and 3 there was an existing base on which improvements were made. Version 4 is new from scratch. Not hard to understand that it might be more expensive. If we are lucky perhaps not... 5950x3d 5.4-5.7 GHz - Asus ROG 870 Crosshair Apex - GSkill Neo 2x 24 Gb 6000 mhz / cas 26 - MSI RTX 5090 Gaming Trio OC - 1x SSD M2 6000 2TB - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 1Tb - Corsair 5400 case - Corsair 360 liquid cooling set - 3x 75’ TCL tv. 13600 6 cores @ 5.1 GHz / 8 cores @ 4.0 GHz (hypterthreading on) - Asus ROG Strix Gaming D - GSkill Trident 4x Gb 3200 MHz cas 15 - Asus TUF RTX 4080 16 Gb - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 2TB - 2x Sata 600 SSD 500 Mb - Corsair D4000 Airflow case - NXT Krajen Z63 AIO liquide cooling - FOV : 200 degrees My flightsim vids : https://www.youtube.com/user/fswidesim/videos?shelf_id=0&sort=dd&view=0
April 27, 20179 yr Moderator 9 hours ago, GSalden said: I can imagine that v4 is not a big update like from v1 to v2 and v2 to v3. Lots of extra work. Just curious : if P3Dv4 is going to cost $ 250-300 who of you would buy it...? Gerard, Is that a known price or just conjecture? Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
April 27, 20179 yr 50 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said: Gerard, Is that a known price or just conjecture? Ray, no price is known yet. I was just curious to know what you guys would do if v4 would be more expensive. 5950x3d 5.4-5.7 GHz - Asus ROG 870 Crosshair Apex - GSkill Neo 2x 24 Gb 6000 mhz / cas 26 - MSI RTX 5090 Gaming Trio OC - 1x SSD M2 6000 2TB - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 1Tb - Corsair 5400 case - Corsair 360 liquid cooling set - 3x 75’ TCL tv. 13600 6 cores @ 5.1 GHz / 8 cores @ 4.0 GHz (hypterthreading on) - Asus ROG Strix Gaming D - GSkill Trident 4x Gb 3200 MHz cas 15 - Asus TUF RTX 4080 16 Gb - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 2TB - 2x Sata 600 SSD 500 Mb - Corsair D4000 Airflow case - NXT Krajen Z63 AIO liquide cooling - FOV : 200 degrees My flightsim vids : https://www.youtube.com/user/fswidesim/videos?shelf_id=0&sort=dd&view=0
April 27, 20179 yr Moderator Just now, GSalden said: Ray, no price is known yet. I was just curious to know what you guys would do if v4 would be more expensive. I don't think it will be anywhere near that price. I paid $60 for v3.4. I would be surprised if the 64-bit Student version cost more than $100. if it did then I would have to consider carefully. Anyway, unless FS Labs rejigged Concorde to make it 64-bit compatible I would probably not bother. Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
April 27, 20179 yr 1 hour ago, GSalden said: Version 4 is new from scratch. I highly doubt that v4 is new from scratch. Windows 11 - Samsung 990 Pro M.2 | Asus Prime Z690 | i7 12700KF HT | DeepCool LS520 SE | MSI 5070 Ti Ventus OC | 64GB G.Skill XMP II | Lian Li 216 LANCOOL RGB | TrackIr v5 | Honeycomb Alfa - Bravo - Charlie | MSFS 2024 - Samsung 990 Pro M.2 | Curved 27" MSI | JBL Quantum 810
April 27, 20179 yr 1 hour ago, GSalden said: With v1 , 2 and 3 there was an existing base on which improvements were made. Version 4 is new from scratch. Not hard to understand that it might be more expensive. If we are lucky perhaps not... What makes you think that P3d V4 is a totally new version? LM have been slowly progressing towards a 64 bit version for years. AMD 9800X3D, NZXT X73 RGB AIO COOLER, Gigabyte X870 Aorus Elite WIFI7, 64GB 6000MHZ RAM, 4TB Samsung Pro NVME, 4 TB Crucial P3+ NVME, 4TB Crucial SSD, Gigabyte Gaming OC Geforce RTX5090, Antec C8 ARGB Case, X55 JOYSTICK/THROTTLES, LG 4K C4 42" TV/Monitor 120 Hz, 2 Dell 1080 monitors. Honeycomb Alpha Yoke, Bravo Throttle. Thrustmaster TPR Pedals. Moza AB6 FFB Joystick, Pimax Crystal Light VR, Tobii Eye tracker, Steelseries Arctis 7+ Wireless Headphones.
April 27, 20179 yr 2 hours ago, GSalden said: Version 4 is new from scratch. Any source to support the statement? 9950X3D, X870E ROG CROSSHAIR HERO, Corsair Dominator Titanium 64GB DDR5-6000 PC5-48000, ASUS RTX 5070Ti 16GB, 9100 PRO 4TB Samsung ,990 PRO 4TB Samsung, AX1600i 1600 Watt 80 Plus Titanium ATX, ASUS 360 ARGB EXTREME 360mm Liquid CPU Cooling Kit.
April 27, 20179 yr 53 minutes ago, G-YMML1 said: Any source to support the statement? No comment 5950x3d 5.4-5.7 GHz - Asus ROG 870 Crosshair Apex - GSkill Neo 2x 24 Gb 6000 mhz / cas 26 - MSI RTX 5090 Gaming Trio OC - 1x SSD M2 6000 2TB - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 1Tb - Corsair 5400 case - Corsair 360 liquid cooling set - 3x 75’ TCL tv. 13600 6 cores @ 5.1 GHz / 8 cores @ 4.0 GHz (hypterthreading on) - Asus ROG Strix Gaming D - GSkill Trident 4x Gb 3200 MHz cas 15 - Asus TUF RTX 4080 16 Gb - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 2TB - 2x Sata 600 SSD 500 Mb - Corsair D4000 Airflow case - NXT Krajen Z63 AIO liquide cooling - FOV : 200 degrees My flightsim vids : https://www.youtube.com/user/fswidesim/videos?shelf_id=0&sort=dd&view=0
April 27, 20179 yr 1 hour ago, CarlosF said: I highly doubt that v4 is new from scratch. I'm quite sure 32 of those 64 bits are pretty new from scratch...
April 27, 20179 yr 33 minutes ago, DylanM said: I'm quite sure 32 of those 64 bits are pretty new from scratch... lmao...you are probably right! Windows 11 - Samsung 990 Pro M.2 | Asus Prime Z690 | i7 12700KF HT | DeepCool LS520 SE | MSI 5070 Ti Ventus OC | 64GB G.Skill XMP II | Lian Li 216 LANCOOL RGB | TrackIr v5 | Honeycomb Alfa - Bravo - Charlie | MSFS 2024 - Samsung 990 Pro M.2 | Curved 27" MSI | JBL Quantum 810
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