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3 minutes ago, MarkW said:

What is the logic of limiting the release of a 64 bit platform.  I think there is a very high probability that LM will not change their current licensing structure for the upcoming v4 release.

Yeah, makes no sense to keep two different platforms alive. IMHO, there are only two options:

1. P3D 64bit will be released for both, professional and enterta...erm....study sector. Its even possible that professional users will get their hands on 64bit way earlier then we do, but it will be eventually released for both markets

or

2.P3D 64bit will be released for professional/commercial sector only and LM will completely abandon P3D for single user licenses 

 

Whats definitely not going to happen is that LM will maintain two platforms, 64bit and 32bit...

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@Jimm I understand what you're saying, but quite frankly I think you're reading too much into it. :smile:
... and I can't really come up with a good reason as to why Lockheed-Martin would make such a move?!

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1 hour ago, Jimm said:

You must have missed my quoting of that article in my original response.  It's ok, that happens.  While I have now been reminded more than once that it will be released, it still doesn't answer whether the 64-bit platform is being developed for the military/government sector ONLY, or if it will be made available globally.  Now if someone knows Gregory Lester personally and has spoken with him to address my question, great, let's get the sauce, but if not, then I kindly ask people to stop quoting me and rehashing what has already been posted. Thanks. :)

Which sim are you currently running Jim?

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19 minutes ago, DylanM said:

Which sim are you currently running Jim?

Sims are X-Plane & P3D


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1 hour ago, Anders Gron said:

@Jimm I understand what you're saying, but quite frankly I think you're reading too much into it. :smile:
... and I can't really come up with a good reason as to why Lockheed-Martin would make such a move?!

I don't believe I am.  It is apparent that LM is moving forward with 64-bit (that much we can agree on), but on what path, is why I questioned this in the first place.  The article states that they are moving to 64-bit to cater to projects pertaining to space/military/government, but no mention about the public sector, to which most all of us here, are a part of.

To be fair and to make sure I am understanding what has transpired so far with LM, they released P3D for academic and professional use, and we have followed the guidlines LM set and used it for such purposes by way of LM opening the market to the public sector.  They built off of old MS code, which they bought rights to, but moving forward, they plan on this 64-bit development, and with no mention of any other market except for what was stated.  Could it still be too early to make the determination of whether they will maintain the marketing strategy, or will they maintain the old code for public sector usage and the 64-bit for their other clientele?


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Nothing is apparent at all.

If the first article we saw on the subject smelled funny, this one completely wreaks of hogwash.


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“Lockheed Martin, Lester said, continues to reinvest in Prepar3D to add new capabilities and features. He said a new major release is expected this year, welcoming further enhancements to better train student pilots.”

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They're doing a train sim?


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37 minutes ago, Jimm said:

I don't believe I am.  It is apparent that LM is moving forward with 64-bit (that much we can agree on), but on what path, is why I questioned this in the first place.  The article states that they are moving to 64-bit to cater to projects pertaining to space/military/government, but no mention about the public sector, to which most all of us here, are a part of.

To be fair and to make sure I am understanding what has transpired so far with LM, they released P3D for academic and professional use, and we have followed the guidlines LM set and used it for such purposes by way of LM opening the market to the public sector.  They built off of old MS code, which they bought rights to, but moving forward, they plan on this 64-bit development, and with no mention of any other market except for what was stated.  Could it still be too early to make the determination of whether they will maintain the marketing strategy, or will they maintain the old code for public sector usage and the 64-bit for their other clientele?

I get what you're saying, my friend.
But to be honest, I still think you're taking this a bit too literally.

I can read the statement/interview the way you do - but I don't really think this was the intention. Nor is the intention to reveal or confirm (not directly, at least) any 64-bit version of Prepar3D. I suppose, that this is the point you're trying to make? 

If you're being positive regarding the interview, you could interpret it as an indirect confirmation of an upcoming 64-bit version of Prepar3D. Especially given all the rumors and hints that's been floating around the last months... 

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14 minutes ago, nealmac said:

They're doing a train sim?

yes, including paid DLC worth 3000 quid, proper DTG-Style

 

 

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@Jimm - this has ALWAYS been a given. LM's market has always been commercial. What you call the public sector (us) have been a great source of information and beta testing but we are not and NEVER have been their target market. LM is a corporation and has a bottom line mentality, at any time they could decide that P3D is not profitable enough and shut it down. 

That said, there is absolutely no indication that a 64bit product would not be "business as usual". Possible? You bet! Probable? I doubt it near term but it does remain to be seen.

Remember, the Professional Plus version goes for $2k/copy and that adds up to a bunch of $$ for their military customers.

Vic

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LM also has other commercial battlefield  simulators that are likely based on their experience with the original ESP code. I previously  posted a link to one of LM's videos of a battlefield simulator  and one of the comments here was, "Jeez, that's not even as good as EA's Battlefield 4."

I don't  think that's the point.

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Wel, 11 years after its release FSX is still used by many Flightsim enthousiastics. We have a greatly improved version with lots of extra features. 

If LM will release their 64 bit version at 500-2000 dollar I will happily continue using my current P3D V3.4 for the next 11 years....


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Hi All,

 

The one huge benefit that Lockheed Martin gains from this community is a huge supply of "free" testing resources. I worked for a small company a number of years ago that provided testers to a large printer company. We were paid well for testing the printers firmware, and the printer software that ran on the PC. In addition to us USA based testers, the bulk of the testing resided off shore. Nevertheless, it was a sizable business expense the printer company had to absorb.

Good testing is time consuming and expensive, and the broader the user base, the better. In LM's case, not only is the testing free, but the testers actually have to pay for the product as well, plus they are very enthusiastic about the software. So Lockheed Martin is getting a great deal, because there are some really smart, savvy individuals who provide valuable feedback about P3D to LM. The community as a whole, really wants the product to be successful. 

So we should not undersell ourselves as not being valuable component to the development of P3D.

Bill Clark 

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Seems quite certain 64bit will be available to all intended markets not just commercial military & space. There are comments from orbx and AS that elude to P3d v4 64bit and they have the beta. If there was no intention to make available to public sector, our devs wouldn't even be bothered with it. 


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